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Some components to make the JF-17 a world class fighter

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These are some electronic components and weapons, or their equivalents to make the JF-17 a top class fighter in its category:

- GaN technology in AESA; This substance has a higher percentage in the consumption of voltages with a carrying capacity of the largest heat and the amount of broadcast much bigger than GaAs power GaAs Arsnyd
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- European AESA radar VIXEN 1000E with 1000 modules with a range of 300 km; features an innovative roll-repositionable AESA antenna to provide a full ±100º field of regard allowing maximum situational awareness and platform survivability.
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- QWIP detectors in the electro-optical components for IRST and missile seekers;
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For this we have the French OSF with a 110 km range and the Italian Skyward-G which has no less than 75 km range..since they both use QWIP technology which can be integrated to the pilot's helmet display.. and missile seekers..
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The French system is better, but very expansive , so the choice goes to the Italian made for export IRST (or equivalent) Skyward-G..


- Self-protection jammer; The ELT/568(V)2 is a solid-state self-protection jammer intended to neutralize radar-based air defense systems and radar-guided surface-to-air and air-to-air missiles..Besides, the ELT/568(V)2 provides jamming against air surveillance radar systems. The jammer has been developed by Elettronica S.p.A. and has been designed for installation on fighter aircraft.
During flight operation, ELT/568 detects radar signals and transmits jamming signals according to the RWR designation with which it is integrated or, in “Stand Alone” mode, can operate independently, according to library loaded before the mission. A series of communication channel (BUS 1553) and lines for discrete signals are designed to manage compatibility / integration with other on-board RX and TX devices.
It based on the numeric memory DRFM, the same technology used by the French SPECTRA..
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- RWR (Radar Warning Receiver); French made Cats-150.. from Thales; The CATS-150 is the latest generation radar-warning receiver developed by Thales. Pilots are alerted to threats on screen in time to re-route and avoid high-risk areas, thereby enhancing security and survivability. The system also provides a complete self-protection management function using detectors and warning receivers.
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Main Features

• Instantaneous 100% POI Radar Warning
• High sensitivity receiver
• Automatic instantaneous identification
• Fully user programmable library
• User-friendly MMI on colour display and NVG compatible
• Extensive on board data recording
• SPS processing (Radar, Laser, Missile Warning,
Chaff & Flare Dispenser, Jammer) and optimisation
of counter measures employment
• Compatible with off-board transmission to other
platforms and multi-platform cooperation
• Comprehensive set of mission planning, training
and support tools
• On board training
• Minimal life cycle cost maintenance concept: BIT,
standard boards, modular architecture
• Powerful COTS processing with growth potential
• Digital receiver (optional)
• Large interface capabilities

Technical characteristics

• Frequency range E-K band (C-D band optional)
• Coverage 360° Azimuth +/- 45° Elevation
• DF accuracy better than 10°
• Library > 5,000 modes
• Size (processing unit) 194 x 157 x 318 (ARINC 600, 5MCU)
• Weight (w/o display) < 10 kg
• Power (w/o display) < 125 W (28 V DC)
• MTBF > 700 H


- Directional Infrared Counter Measures (DIRCM);
The system uses an active method of jamming of infrared missiles seekers through the sensor aperture. The system can be placed in either active or standby mode. In the standby mode the aircrew must select the active mode to begin jamming IR threats.The pulsing flashes of IR energy confuse the missile guidance system. The Italian made ELT/572 is very efficient and low priced..
The most reliable and effective approach to countering the evolving threat of MANPADS is represented by the use of Directional Infrared Countermeasures (DIRCM).The fibre laser technology, applied in the ELT/572, enhances DIRCM effectiveness by improving performances, effectiveness, reliability and efficiency, while it overcomes the traditional setbacks of previous DIRCM suites, by reducing the installation constraints and the even more critical and complex setting-up, alignment and maintenance operations. It also allows the use of a small, highly dynamic turret that can very quickly slew and, driven by sophisticated algorithms, accurately concentrate the laser beam on the seekers of the incoming missile threats, ensuring an all-around effective protection of the platforms even against multiple simultaneous threats.
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But The question is will all these are available for JF-17?? i mean can Pakistan Purchase it?
 
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I have a slight reservation here. These are all western systems and quite susceptible to embargos and sanctions. But the thing is, if we can acquire the knowledge of fundamental IC manufacturing and design, there is no reason why we can't make this on our own.

In terms of technology I'd like to see on the Thunder: sensor fusion. That pretty much sums it up.

Nice to have: stealth. This can mean use of appropriate materials in the structure, radar absorbing/deflecting coatings, and slight re-design of the airframe. It may never be fully stealthy but it can be stealth based.
 
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- HMSD (helmet-mounted sight & Display)
The French TopSight design offers the best trade-off between operational requirements and safety. TopSight makes use of successful technologies already developed and proven on TopOwl HMSD helicopter variant.. it is lightweight and capable of directing short range air to air missile and a visual display mode..
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- Targeting pod; TALIOS New generation multi-function targeting pod

MISSIONS
TALIOS New generation multi-function targeting pod

MISSIONS
Multifunction: from targeting to NTISR

Air-to-Ground
• Compatible with laser guided weapons, INS/GPS
guided missiles and imagery-guided weapons
• Attacks in autonomous or cooperative mode, using
integrated laser spot tracker and laser marker
• Long range damage assessment capability
• Target recognition capability
• Positive identification in complex environment
• 3D localization
• Integrated navigation FLIR
• Real-time data-link transmission

Reconnaissance
• Medium range day/night small targets reconnaissance

Air-to-Air
• Day/night visual airborne target identification

KEY FEATURES
• A complete new modular design based on new technolo-
gies to allow implementation of additional features during
the life cycle
• HD sensors (IR and TV) with outstanding long range
capabilities to strike from Close Air Support to stand off
distances
• Powerful laser provides the aircraft with both stand-off
range and tactical capacity
• Robust new generation tracking systems
• Friendly user interface (flags, Picture in Picture, lethal and
risk area indicator, enhanced symbology...)
• On-line status and repair maintenance mode

TECHNICAL CHARACTERISTICS
Open architecture and a high level of functional integration.
All features embedded within the pod, no specific functions
needed in the aircraft

IR Imagery
• Continuous electronic zoom 4.8° to 0.12°
• Spectral band: 3-5 μm
• Field of View:
- Wide FoV: 4.8° x 3.6°
- Narrow FoV: 1° x 0.75°
TV Imagery
• Continuous electronic zoom 4.8° to 0.06° (with PiP)
• Spectral band: 0.7 – 0.9 μm
• Field of View: 0.77° x 0.58°
Laser range-finding
• Wavelength: 1.5 μm
• Eye-safe
Laser designation
• Wavelength: 1.06 μm
• STANAG 3733
Laser spot tracker
• Wavelength: 1.06 μm
Laser marker
• Wavelength: 0.8 μm
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- A-DARTER (fourth generation air to air missilemade by South-Africa and Brasil) with second CCD camera and TVC, with LOAL LOBL and a range of more than 35 km, it is also less expansive than American and European missiles
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- MAR-1 (Anti-Radiation Missile made in Brasil) stealthier, very precise, very efficient and not as expansive as other missiles..

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- C-802 (Anti-Ship missile, made in China) stealthy and efficient..
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- Standoff Bombs :
Umbani
with 120 km range from South Africa
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SMKB
GPS directed from Brasil
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SBU
family from France
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LVB-250F
intelligent bomb from Serbia
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NEB
bunker buster from Turkey
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- Radio RT-651/S Italian made; All the versions can operate in a LINK-11 net when associated with an external LINK-11 data terminal set (an airborne version of the modem has been recently developed by SELEX Communications), a capability which allows use in all missions where co-operation between naval and air forces is required.
At hardware level, RT-651/N has a sliced-modular construction which allows for easy replacement or addition of modules in a stacked way. This allows any of the available versions to be converted into another one by software/hardware reconfiguration of the operating functions and of the operating parameters.

MAIN FEATURES
• Extended frequency band, 30 to 470 MHz, covering
tactical and non-tactical communications, in AM and
FM, in one single radio unit
• Several options for channel spacing and guard
frequencies available
• Cockpit control via dedicated control panel
or mission computer control over the
MIL-STD-1553B bus, ARINC 429 Bus or RS-485 Serial
Line
• Preset channels operation
• EPM capability by frequency hopping
(Have Quick, SATURN and SINCGARS)
• Customer oriented EPM capabilities by the EASY II
SELEX Communications proprietar y scheme
• Compatibility with cr ypto devices for operation
in the baseband or diphase modes
• Compatibility with Link 11 modem
• 70 MHz IF standard modem inter faces
(i.e. SATCOM, etc.).
• BITE function with identification of the
faulty module
• Extended use of DSP (Digital Signal Processing)
and DDS (Direct Digital Synthesis) techniques,
for maximum flexibility
• Slice-type, stacked, modular construction for easy
maintenance and growth capability
• Compact size and low weight for use onboard
aircraft and other applications where space
is limited and weight is a severe constraint
(i.e. helicopters)
• Low power consumption
• Heat dissipation by freeair convection
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- IFF : TSC 2050 from the family TSC-20XX
Thales BlueGate tri-service IFF
deliver the best in class, modern identification friend or foe capability. BlueGate solutions are fully compliant with civil standards (in particular Mode S) and military NATO/US standards (Mode 4 and new Mode 5) as well as National Secure Mode (NSM) with the highly secure MX5 capability.
Works up to 70 thousand feet and consumes around 500 watt, and the main advantage is that the codes are made by the country not by the company..
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- Navigation System: Sigma 95N by SAGEM,
It works with GPS and Glonast, or with INS in the same LRU, it is integrated into the Rafale,this is one of the best, it weights 15 kg and consumes 40 watt with a life expectancy of some 5000 hours..
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These are the essentials to make the JF-17 a very advanced combat aircraft..please remember that all these component have equivalents and the main idea and effort was to point out o what systems are needed..

The SC

I'd add the Thales TopOwl-F HMD/S.
it was coming but not TopOwl, TopSight based on TopOwl..

But The question is will all these are available for JF-17?? i mean can Pakistan Purchase it?
most of them yes, but the thread was to point out to these systems or their equivalents that can be procured without any hassles..
 
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In addition to these towed decoys can be developed jointly with China to jam long range a2a missile seekers. China operates older Soviet era a2a missiles while Pakistan has amraam. It can operate both against these two types of air to air missiles. Add to that the semi stealth features of block 3 and it will keep India away for a long time. Good for their citizens also as India will play nice like today instead of self inflicting attacks to accuse Pakistan like the uri attack a few months back.
 
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I have a slight reservation here. These are all western systems and quite susceptible to embargos and sanctions. But the thing is, if we can acquire the knowledge of fundamental IC manufacturing and design, there is no reason why we can't make this on our own.

In terms of technology I'd like to see on the Thunder: sensor fusion. That pretty much sums it up.

Nice to have: stealth. This can mean use of appropriate materials in the structure, radar absorbing/deflecting coatings, and slight re-design of the airframe. It may never be fully stealthy but it can be stealth based.
That would be best, for now, on the shelf buying is a step forward as some ToT can be procured along these components.or their equivalents in characteristics and efficiency, that was the aim of the thread..
Some components like The ELT/568(V)2 can help in stealth..
 
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That would be best, for now, on the shelf buying is a step forward as some ToT can be procured along these components.or their equivalents in characteristics and efficiency, tat was the aim of the thread..
Some components like The ELT/568(V)2 can help in stealth..

Yep, I realized that when u edited ur post to say these are example systems. Thanks for the clarification.
 
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We should invest heavily in research and new technologies for future purposes. Some countries already working on laser etc. rather than buidling housing societies, fertilisers etc our defense sector should work hard for next generation technologies including all above mentioned accessories
 
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We should invest heavily in research and new technologies for future purposes. Some countries already working on laser etc. rather than buidling housing societies, fertilisers etc our defense sector should work hard for next generation technologies including all above mentioned accessories
For a country with a meagre budget it is not feasible to spend billions on R&D for reinventing the wheel. We should acquire the necessary hardware with some elements of local manufacturing. This can progressively increase as we acquire the know how. This would be imperative if we want a platform delivered on time.
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