Sinking of INS Sindhurakshak

[SpArK]

22 submarines in accidents during past decade


The majority have involved American submarines.
The USS Minneapolis-St Paul became dangerously close to grounding on rocks in the River Tamar near Plymouth, Devon, and a new report has blamed human failings.


In total, there have been nine American submarine incidents, five Russian, four British, and one Chinese, Canadian, Australian and French accidents.


Britian's HMS Astute ran aground in October last year off Skye while it was being put through sea trials.
The £1.2bn submarine's rudder got stuck in mud and shingle while trying to take crew aboard.


Months later, Lieutenant Commander Ian Molyneux, 36, was shot dead aboard the submarine. Crew member Ryan Donovan was charged with his murder and the attempted murder of three other crewman.

Other submarine incidents to have occurred over the past ten years include the Ming 361 sinking in 2003. A "mechanical malfunction" on the Chinese diesel-powered submarine killed the entire 70-man crew in one of the worst naval accidents experienced in communist China's history.

In 2008, six sailors and 14 civilian workers were killed and 21 were injured when the Russian K-152 Nerpa firefighting system went off during sea trials, releasing Freon coolant into the air on board.

Twenty-one casualties were evacuated to a military hospital in Vladivostok suffering from poisoning. Four members of the US were washed overboard from The USS Minneapolis-Saint Paul in 2006, while in 2007 two members of the HMS Tireless were killed.

Leading Operator Mechanic Paul McCann, 32, and Operator Mechanic Anthony Huntrod, 20, died when an oxygen-generating device exploded as they activated it during a training exercise while it was under the Arctic ice cap.



22 submarines in accidents during past decade - Telegraph

 

[ejaz007]

Bodies Found in Indian Submarine; Survivors 'Unlikely'

MUMBAI — India’s navy on Friday retrieved three badly burned bodies from a submarine that exploded in a Mumbai dockyard and said it was unlikely any of the other 15 missing crewmen would be found alive.

The diesel-powered INS Sindhurakshak sank in a military dockyard early Wednesday, dealing a setback to India’s naval ambitions just days after it unveiled its first domestically made aircraft carrier.

Navy divers managed to enter the vessel, whose forward section was totally destroyed in the fire, but their progress was hampered by extreme heat, poor visibility and mangled hatches.

The first bodies were retrieved from a compartment behind the tower Friday and have been sent for DNA testing because severe burns prevented their identification, a navy statement said.

The state of the bodies and conditions within the submarine “leads to the firm conclusion that finding any surviving personnel within the submarine is unlikely,” the statement said.

It also suggested some bodies might never be found because of the fierce temperatures generated in the fire during which some of the weapons on board — cruise missiles and torpedoes — ignited.

“The navy will continue to search every inch of the submerged submarine till all bodies are either located or it can be stated with finality that no bodies remain to be found,” it said.

The navy’s focus remains on accessing all compartments of the vessel before attempting to salvage the vessel.

“Salvage of the submarine would only be attempted thereafter for which many alternatives including deploying professional salvers are also being considered,” it added.

An inquiry has been set up to determine what caused the blasts, which turned the recently refurbished Russian-built submarine into a fireball.

The Times of India newspaper speculated Friday that sabotage might have been the cause of the explosion, but the navy chief said Wednesday that “the indicators at this point of time do not support that theory.”

The families of the 18 men on board at the time of the explosion have gathered in Mumbai.

The 16-year-old submarine, whose name means “Protector of the Seas” in Hindi, returned in April from Russia, where it underwent a two-year overhaul of its communication, weapons and propulsion systems.

It is still covered by a Russian warranty, and the Russian company responsible for the refit, Zvyozdochka, has offered its assistance.

Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, addressing the nation in a traditional Independence Day speech on Thursday, voiced sorrow at the blast.

“The accident is all the more painful because the navy had recently achieved two major successes in the form of its first nuclear submarine, INS Arihant, and the aircraft carrier, INS Vikrant,” Singh said.

In addition to the aircraft carrier launched Monday, India announced sea trials for its first domestically made nuclear submarine last weekend, which Singh trumpeted as a “giant stride” for the country.

Bodies Found in Indian Submarine; Survivors 'Unlikely' | Defense News | defensenews.com

 

[pshamim]

India has suffered a disaster. Loss of Sindhurakshak and more tragically the loss of precious human life during the peace time.For Indian Navy who calls it a dent in its efforts to build a respectable fleet of subs for its defence has really suffered a disaster. Its main and most modern sub is gone. But curiously, no one is saying a word about the 2nd sub which was moored only 8 to 15 feet from the Sindhurakshak. Indian media has reported that the 2nd sub was damaged but then nothing. I think that the media is gagged from reporting anything about the 2nd sub for fear that it may eventually bring the wrath of the Indian people.

No one has said how much the 2nd sub is damaged. In my opinion the 2nd sub is also crippled badly and may not be available for sea duty any more.

The 2nd sub was next to Sindhurakshak when it blew up. Sheer force of blast waves, and temperatures ranging between 500 C to 6000C must have deformed the 2nd subs hull if not melted it. If you look at the above pictures, you can see parts of the sub but no jetty. I am sure it was burned away. Visitors are brought in a barge.

I am sure that India has lost two submarines in this disaster and not one as reported.

Our Indian friends may not want to believe but then can they prove if the 2nd sub is happily alive and well.

 

[Jango]

India has suffered a disaster. Loss of Sindhurakshak and more tragically the loss of precious human life during the peace time.For Indian Navy who calls it a dent in its efforts to build a respectable fleet of subs for its defence has really suffered a disaster. Its main and most modern sub is gone. But curiously, no one is saying a word about the 2nd sub which was moored only 8 to 15 feet from the Sindhurakshak. Indian media has reported that the 2nd sub was damaged but then nothing. I think that the media is gagged from reporting anything about the 2nd sub for fear that it may eventually bring the wrath of the Indian people.

No one has said how much the 2nd sub is damaged. In my opinion the 2nd sub is also crippled badly and may not be available for sea duty any more.

The 2nd sub was next to Sindhurakshak when it blew up. Sheer force of blast waves, and temperatures ranging between 500 C to 6000C must have deformed the 2nd subs hull if not melted it. If you look at the above pictures, you can see parts of the sub but no jetty. I am sure it was burned away. Visitors are brought in a barge.

Our Indian friends may not want to believe but then can they prove if the 2nd sub is happily alive and well.

First of all sir, pleasure to have you back.

On to the question now, playing the devil's advocate, the Naval Chief did say that the second sub only suffered superficial body damages to the outer outer coating, nothing too serious.

It can be a Kamra like situation, but this is what is in the public right now...

 

[pshamim]

Well IN is quite and no news coming out. That points to something that they do not want to say anything more than it was damaged.
They cannot hide the loss of 1st submarine but trying to hide the damage to the 2nd.

I am not saying that the 2nd sub was burnt and sank. But I am quite confident in saying the 2nd submarine is also damaged to the point that it may not be operational for another 2 to 3 years due to the damage from the close proximity to .Sindhurakshak and the temperatures generated, blast waves and exposure to fire for 2 hours. Jetty is not visible because it simply evaporated.

 

[MohitV]

lols and the mighty chinese navy lost its ming class submarine some years back in which around 70 sailors killed. Any explaination for that?? You are not competent enough to operate submarines too or you are just arrogant??
PS: China has lost a nuclear submarine too.

lol...now this troll will be miles away from this thread thanks to u

 

[Nan Yang]

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[Screambowl]

better protocols and better maintenance is call of the hour. No doubt, accidents do happen, but this can brought to zero. We are already low on submarine fleet, so it is very important to maintain it with best standards.

 

[Beast]

Type 092 submarine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Your point prove? Posting link of Type 092 submarine in here for what?

 

[kurup]

Your point prove? Posting link of Type 092 submarine in here for what?

May be he posted that link to show this excerpt in the link .

A second hull is thought to have been completed in 1982, however this is debatable. There is little information regarding the history of this ship if in fact it actually existed. It is suggested, though not confirmed, that this second Type 092 was lost in an accident in 1985

 

[Nexus]

Guess:

Electrical fire, leading to torpedo explosion.

so sir now both subs are out of service ?

 

[Nexus]

now all old kilo subs are out of date. we need new subs. scorpins wher are u all ??? RIP to all Dead solders 1,2,3, company Fire

 

[Awesome]

so sir now both subs are out of service ?

Which both?

Note others may have gone out of service, but this one suffered explosions and what not.

 

[VelocuR]

Safety rules' violation puts question mark on India's capacity to operate nuclear submarines

Sat, 17 Aug 2013

Quoting experts, Russian deputy prime minister Dmitry Rogozinhe said violation of safety regulations was the most probable cause of the accident

The nuclear watchdog, IAEA should be concerned about the quality of safety standards of Indian Navy while dealing with nuclear submarine and put it on monitoring and surveillance.

The Russian deputy PM was visibly upset on the incident. He said the blast had occurred in the section where storage batteries were being charged. This is the most dangerous work, which is connected with safety measures rather than with the producers of this equipment.

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INS Sindhurakshak tragedy: Russia says it will assist India in submarine explosion probe

Updated: August 17, 2013 08:52 IST

Moscow: Russian naval engineers will help the Indian Navy in its investigation into the explosion on INS Sindhurakshak, the submarine which sank at the naval dockyard in Mumbai on Wednesday, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin has said.

The 16-year-old vessel, which had suffered an accident in 2010, had recently returned from Russia after a two-and-a-half year upgrade of its electronic warfare and integrated weapons control systems.

Mr Rogozin told Russian news agency Ria Novosti that Russian specialists do not see any technical failure as the likely cause behind the explosion.

Mr Rogozin, who looks after the defence industry, also added that he has instructed the United Shipbuilding Corporation, a state-owned ship building company, to provide all necessary assistance to India.

"I have instructed the United Shipbuilding Corporation to send more specialists in agreement with the Indian side, to take part in the investigation of the tragedy and to provide all assistance necessary to our Indian friends," he said.

There were 18 crewmen on board INS Sindhurakshak when it sank at the naval dockyard in Mumbai on Wednesday after an explosion. The Indian Navy said yesterday that the bodies of five sailors have been found, but cautioned that it does not expect divers battling zero visibility in the dark muddied waters inside the sunken submarine to locate any of the others.

 

[Thorough Pro]

What has Mumbai overcrowd to do with the accident?

Navy should learn from this incident and move all subs out of Mumbai,its overcrowded as hell.