single national curriculum - 1 to 5 standards (Government’s single national curriculum is like martial law)

[Raj-Hindustani]

A Kid does not know if the country is first world developing etc for him what he sees is what parents and school teachers show.
The reason why I wanted you to see the Japanese system was to understand how important are ethics. The Culture that is being followed in Sub Continent specially for Muslims is Persian. Where as India is slightly behind as they can not consent to one culture due to then enormity of the large size.
You are living in India but would agree that Delhi and Chennai do not bond well. Then there is the South Indian and Mumbai Culture.

Where as it is far easier for Pakistan to have a single culture.


You have obviously not lived with the Russians or French because they would not reply to you if one speaks with them in English even though they would know English.


Role of parents has been important since time and memorial but tell me how much time does a child spend with their parents. From 7 am to 2 pm in School then from 3 pm to 7 pm for tuition. 8 or 9 they go to sleep. so where is the time for the parents .Not to mention Fathers are working since 9 am to 7 pm and mothers are also busy with work specially in middle class. If elites then they are always busy with parties and events of socialising no time for the child as the child is in the custody of a servent.

Unfortunately this is the harsh reality today as we have adopted the Western culture where there is no concept of family life.

You are living in India but would agree that Delhi and Chennai do not bond well. Then there is the South Indian and Mumbai Culture.

Yes, I agreed partially but it does not mean that having a vibrating culture is a weakness. I am from the north but now settled in the south. Also, I made good friends in Bangalore.

Unsure your meant by bonding but for me, it is more about adaptation ability. If north or west people are going to move in the south then they should have adaptation ability to accept the changes and vice versa.

I don't find any hate mentality between south Indian and north Indian.


You have obviously not lived with the Russians or French because they would not reply to you if one speaks with them in English even though they would know English.

NO, it is about all individual mentality.

I could say in a simple line that if two Marathi people meet then they speak in Marathi, the same goes for Tamil, Telugu, Hindi or Kannada...

So would one Tamil guy will speak to another Tamil guy in English or Hindi? or two Hindi spoken guys in any other language.

Role of parents has been important since time and memorial but tell me how much time does a child spend with their parents. From 7 am to 2 pm in School then from 3 pm to 7 pm for tuition. 8 or 9 they go to sleep. so where is the time for the parents .Not to mention Fathers are working since 9 am to 7 pm and mothers are also busy with work specially in middle class. If elites then they are always busy with parties and events of socialising no time for the child as the child is in the custody of a servent.

Unfortunately this is the harsh reality today as we have adopted the Western culture where there is no concept of family life.


Yes, the role of parents is always important. But I am not agreed to depend on learning about our culture, regions, and sociopolitical by school textbooks.

Why do they need to teach? It is the job of parents, family, and people around in the society. A kid can easily


The two things are always in any society - Good and Bad.

A healthy society accepts the good things from the other society and progress. you should not be a denial mode by saying that our society is greatest to others and we do not need to learn from any other society.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Immu Kardashians views and why this change was cornerstone of his policy (meaning he won't change it for anything in the world)

Basically his explanation for why he made this change

I happen to agree with him

 

[arjunk]

Nations who let go of their culture and language will always be mentally enslaved. Europeans teach in their own language, Arabs teach in their own language, Japanese, Turks, Iranians teach in their own language. It is only south Asians that haven't broken their mental slavery.

Are you saying Chinese aren't competitive internationally, Europeans, Turks, Japanese aren't competitive internationally? Respect yourself, your culture and the world will respect you. Otherwise stay happy, with menial, slave jobs, like customer service etc...

Teaching Urdu literature or language as a separate subject is enough to preserve the language and ensure communication skills. Imagine trying to learn Science or Math in Urdu.

English is the most widely spoken language in the world and learning it is an essential skill, and that will never change unless you want Pakistan to conquer 1/4 of the world and impose Urdu on them.

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

But the parents will become bound to continue sending their children to school where ethics will be taught and that may be absorbed by the parents over time. This is though a slower way of changing society.



Off topic here but do you rather prefer to have the Haya Marchers ?

I wouldn't prefer anyone mate. But using aurat card to fulfill someones else's agenda is wrong IMO. Secondly single national curriculum is what we need now those who call it a martial law are f*cked up.

 

[SaadH]

Teaching Urdu literature or language as a separate subject is enough to preserve the language and ensure communication skills. Imagine trying to learn Science or Math in Urdu.

English is the most widely spoken language in the world and learning it is an essential skill, and that will never change unless you want Pakistan to conquer 1/4 of the world and impose Urdu on them.

Conversely, English can be taught as a separate subject enough to preserve the language and ensure communication skills. Imagine trying to learn Science or Math in a foreign language.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Conversely, English can be taught as a separate subject enough to preserve the language and ensure communication skills. Imagine trying to learn Science or Math in a foreign language.

This, with technical words in English

 

[White Lion]

You are living in India but would agree that Delhi and Chennai do not bond well. Then there is the South Indian and Mumbai Culture.

Yes, I agreed partially but it does not mean that having a vibrating culture is a weakness. I am from the north but now settled in the south. Also, I made good friends in Bangalore.

Unsure your meant by bonding but for me, it is more about adaptation ability. If north or west people are going to move in the south then they should have adaptation ability to accept the changes and vice versa.

I don't find any hate mentality between south Indian and north Indian.


You have obviously not lived with the Russians or French because they would not reply to you if one speaks with them in English even though they would know English.

NO, it is about all individual mentality.

I could say in a simple line that if two Marathi people meet then they speak in Marathi, the same goes for Tamil, Telugu, Hindi or Kannada...

So would one Tamil guy will speak to another Tamil guy in English or Hindi? or two Hindi spoken guys in any other language.

Role of parents has been important since time and memorial but tell me how much time does a child spend with their parents. From 7 am to 2 pm in School then from 3 pm to 7 pm for tuition. 8 or 9 they go to sleep. so where is the time for the parents .Not to mention Fathers are working since 9 am to 7 pm and mothers are also busy with work specially in middle class. If elites then they are always busy with parties and events of socialising no time for the child as the child is in the custody of a servent.

Unfortunately this is the harsh reality today as we have adopted the Western culture where there is no concept of family life.


Yes, the role of parents is always important. But I am not agreed to depend on learning about our culture, regions, and sociopolitical by school textbooks.

Why do they need to teach? It is the job of parents, family, and people around in the society. A kid can easily


The two things are always in any society - Good and Bad.

A healthy society accepts the good things from the other society and progress. you should not be a denial mode by saying that our society is greatest to others and we do not need to learn from any other society.

See these First

 

[RealNapster]

GoP wants a Brain Drain.

By issuing standard "learning objectives/ outcomes" for grade 1 to 5 ????

Mashallah

 

[Blacklight]

By issuing standard "learning objectives" for grade 1 to 5 ????

Mashallah

By discouraging qualified professionals from living in Pakistan.

 

[RealNapster]

By discouraging qualified professionals from living in Pakistan.

Those who want to support Pakistan just like it supported us for so long, stays. Others leave.

Jis ne rukna Hy usky paas daleely bohat.
Jis ne jaana Hy usky paas bahany bohat.

 

[Blacklight]

Those who want to support Pakistan just like it supported us for so long, stays. Others leave.

Jis ne rukna Hy usky paas daleely bohat.
Jis ne jaana Hy usky paas bahany bohat.

Now you are just resorting to whataboutism.

 

[RealNapster]

Now you are just resorting to whataboutism.

Whataboutism is a different thing used differently. I guess you need to learn more about the word.

What I said was an "Opinion".

 

[fitpOsitive]

Its quite ironic that an ideal of civilization like freedom to choose is coming from an indian. Coz all i see is a sub conscious/intentional effort to sabotage any step of providing level playing field to every kid. But then indian society in essence is based on discriminating caste system .




Many would argue that sub par syllabus gonna severely impact the new generation. ok then let it be , coz the elite isn't even willing to provide what they may have wanted for their own kids citing various reasons like finances and subtle references to social Darwinism. @Verve @fitpOsitive @jamahir @Blacklight

Single curriculum, but do the teachers also have some minimum required capability?

Vip culture has already destroyed our every thing. From law to education to commerce, everything is here to surve the elite, and if not then will not be given due attention, and thus it will be useless.

 

[jamal18]

Imagine trying to learn Science or Math in Urdu.

Virtually everybody in the world learns science and maths in their own language. Why can't you do it in Pakistan?

English is the most widely spoken language in the world and learning it is an essential skill, and that will never change unless you want Pakistan to conquer 1/4 of the world and impose Urdu on them.

Yes, it's called learning a foreign language. Everybody in the world does that. I have met Europeans who are flawless in English, and believe me there are many. And none of them have been to an ' english medium' school.

 

[The Accountant]

Oh i see. I had Indian colleagues in the past who communicated to each other in English because some were from Bihar and others were from South India and they didn't have the same mother tongue. I can see why English would be a requirement in India.

In Pakistan most people understand Urdu. Also English is still being taught, but in the new curriculum it will not be the language through which children will be taught subjects.
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The challenge Pakistan faces is the low quality of government schools, changing the curriculum won't fix that but it is something that needs doing.

On the subject of the curriculum a lot of time is wasted discussing the medium of delivery of the curriculum, but all the good pedagogical changes are being ignored in the public debate. it's a very deliberate attempt to undermine the new curriculum. At the same time, i am concerned why they need to add religious content into subjects that are not islamic studies, or social studies.

Positive things about the new single curriculum being ignored.

1. The content of the SNC for Maths and Science has been aligned to the TIMSS content framework.
2. SNC focusses on development of analytical, critical and creative thinking through a more activities-based approach rather than static teacher centric learning.
3. Use of ICT is integrated in the curriculum for the first time.

It remains to be seen whether these will remain words on paper or whether they will be practically implemented. Unfortunately the debate in our country ignores these points and instead focuses on English and if the curriculum is too islamic or not. It's a reflection of the intellectual bankruptcy in our society met with the agendas of foreign funding.

Finally a sensible and analytical post. I am 100% sure that most of the person commenting here have not even gone through the basic of the curriculum and started rejecting it.

This is the problem of our society. Medium is important and english provide us an edge there is no doubt about it. But on the same time, English medium is stopping alot more perople from growth as they dont have access to english medium. Similarly, there is no local R&D as we are use to of studying the international research and copying it rather than doing any research locally.

This is the first step and very basic one in nation building, it will either raise us to international level but also has a potential to destroy us further if we dont follow through well.