Simultaneous visits of army officers of Bangladesh and Pakistan to China

[Jihad]

Good development.
Pakistan, Bangladesh and China should increase trilateral ties.
I'm all in favor of that.

 

[Zabaniyah]

I have issue with that. Our graduate take oath with holy Quran to protect the country from enemy yet those solders were force to salute a non-Muslim CAS from blood thirsty enemy country. Disgrace in every scenario although your liberal mind would not try to comprehend this. I personally think Awami and current Awami's pimp(BD's CAS) trying to break the morale of Bangladeshi army. They are trying to convert our lions to cats. As it happened with legendary BDR to BGB.

I hate the bloody presence of Bharti in my soil. I just hate it.

I think it's feasible to say that the AL will be finished someday. Impossible to tell when - could be sooner or later.

The problem is not the party itself, we can all disagree with our respective POVs which is normal in any country's politics. I generally don't like Socialism in South Asia hence I don't agree with the AL in general.

The main problem is their leader - Hasina. What surprises me is that there is so much silence within the AL over this. But boy, those AL guys sure are leaving a bitter legacy in Bangladesh. A bitter one indeed.

Other than some members here!? The former DG of DGFI Gen. Fazle Akbar lost his job over the issue. He protested forcefully the saluting of the Indian COAS. He was merely representing the opinion of the vast majority of the armed forces in BD. You really are ignorant about whats going on in Bangladesh.

Have I ever told you how harmful politics can be in a military? It is certainly not the military's job to engage into politics. Albeit, this is one Achilles' heel. Whoever masterminded the Pikhana tragedy certainly did so with ease. And assuming Indians were behind it, they didn't even need to send a single soldier to do just that. But whatever it is - someone was very displeased with the 2001 border incident. That is for certain.

For sanity's sake, it was best not to say anything over the Indian CAS visit. I am sure someone will figure out something. My recommendation to our military is - Don't always go political over every affair. It just makes them weak.

I think we can all agree that Hasina is the main problem. And seeing just how uncertain our current political climate is - God knows.

As far as our relations go - if we align our foreign policy with India and the US, we risk paying a high price. Removing the AL's current matrix of leadership is almost mandatory to avoid that. The party can remain, but the people? They must go.

 

[DkBose]

Good development.
Pakistan, Bangladesh and China should increase trilateral ties.
I'm all in favor of that.

omg love triangle

 

[Jihad]

omg love triangle

Aww don't feel left out.

 

[BanglaBhoot]

There is a BD military forum. There is another strategic forum. There are many forums in Bengalee.

Are any of them actually functioning properly?

 

[BanglaBhoot]

I think it's feasible to say that the AL will be finished someday. Impossible to tell when - could be sooner or later.

The problem is not the party itself, we can all disagree with our respective POVs which is normal in any country's politics. I generally don't like Socialism in South Asia hence I don't agree with the AL in general.

The main problem is their leader - Hasina. What surprises me is that there is so much silence within the AL over this. But boy, those AL guys sure are leaving a bitter legacy in Bangladesh. A bitter one indeed.



Have I ever told you how harmful politics can be in a military? It is certainly not the military's job to engage into politics. Albeit, this is one Achilles' heel. Whoever masterminded the Pikhana tragedy certainly did so with ease. And assuming Indians were behind it, they didn't even need to send a single soldier to do just that. But whatever it is - someone was very displeased with the 2001 border incident. That is for certain.

For sanity's sake, it was best not to say anything over the Indian CAS visit. I am sure someone will figure out something. My recommendation to our military is - Don't always go political over every affair. It just makes them weak.

I think we can all agree that Hasina is the main problem. And seeing just how uncertain our current political climate is - God knows.

As far as our relations go - if we align our foreign policy with India and the US, we risk paying a high price. Removing the AL's current matrix of leadership is almost mandatory to avoid that. The party can remain, but the people? They must go.

I agree that politics is harmful for the military but pretending that the military has any choice in the matter is quixotic. All promotions are based on political considerations. The present DG of DGFI is related to Sheikh Hasina and many officers are in the pocket of her brother-in-law Gen. Tareq Siddique. Every decision in the military is political so what choice for the army officers if they want to survive. In the end they have to think politically either by opposing the AL or supporting it. There is a list of 200 army officers who will be sacked on political considerations alone. You are asking the impossible.

 

[mahabharath]

Clearly you suffer from verbal diarrhea and are addicted to mental laxatives. Time you took a pill and just shut up.

+ Post reported

 

[Zabaniyah]

I agree that politics is harmful for the military but pretending that the military has any choice in the matter is quixotic. All promotions are based on political considerations. The present DG of DGFI is related to Sheikh Hasina and many officers are in the pocket of her brother-in-law Gen. Tareq Siddique. Every decision in the military is political so what choice for the army officers if they want to survive. In the end they have to think politically either by opposing the AL or supporting it. There is a list of 200 army officers who will be sacked on political considerations alone. You are asking the impossible.

Very interesting knowing that the DG of DGFI is 'related' to Hasina.

Holistically speaking, and in the long run - politics in the military is harmful. It hurts the military's credibility whose ultimate purpose is to defend the nation from the enemy. India seems to be just 'grabbing all' and just sitting there. Go against them - then probably another Pilkhana-like tragedy.

In fact, it was that very weakness that whomever masterminded Pilkhana exploited.

I don't think it is impossible in the long run. The key is to raise awareness among Bangladeshis. Confrontational politics based on personal whims, wits and money didn't help Bangladesh at all. Not at all.

Seems like the spirit of the Liberation War is a lost one.

Hope you understand.

 

[BanglaBhoot]

Very interesting knowing that the DG of DGFI is 'related' to Hasina.

Holistically speaking, and in the long run - politics in the military is harmful. It hurts the military's credibility whose ultimate purpose is to defend the nation from the enemy. India seems to be just 'grabbing all' and just sitting there. Go against them - then probably another Pilkhana-like tragedy.

In fact, it was that very weakness that whomever masterminded Pilkhana exploited.

I don't think it is impossible in the long run. The key is to raise awareness among Bangladeshis. Confrontational politics based on personal whims, wits and money didn't help Bangladesh at all. Not at all.

Seems like the spirit of the Liberation War is a lost one.

Hope you understand.

Yes the DG of DGFI is Maj. Gen. Sheikh Mamun Khaled.

I completely agree with your sentiments but I am not sure how under present circumstances the military can be divorced from politics. The objective of having an armed force is to protect the country from external threat. When the party in power consorts with the enemy thus rendering the meaning of having an armed force entirely redundant what is the military to do?

 

[Zabaniyah]

Yes the DG of DGFI is Maj. Gen. Sheikh Mamun Khaled.

I completely agree with your sentiments but I am not sure how under present circumstances the military can be divorced from politics. The objective of having an armed force is to protect the country from external threat. When the party in power consorts with the enemy thus rendering the meaning of having an armed force entirely redundant what is the military to do?

Generally speaking, the military's oath is to defend the nation. In the context of Bangladesh or any country for that matter - even domestic. Even in America:

"As officers in the U.S. military, we took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Regardless of our current status -- active duty, reserves, retired, or civilian -- that oath remains in force."

Whatever it is, it should be constitutional. I think you know what I mean.

That Hasina certainly isn't doing good for Bangladesh right now. I think we Bangladeshis all heard her talking. Recently, she called Khaleda Zia 'chorer ma'r boro gola'. There are many examples. Is that the kind of language a head of state should speak?

It amazes me that Indians want her for another term.

Bangladeshi members here are somehow trying to fit in the picture... Inda-China-Pakistan and where does BD come?? a slave of Indian govt..thats it

Thanks for being honest. Lot of your countrymen aren't that direct.

 

[asad71]

Are any of them actually functioning properly?

In fact they are.

 

[asad71]

Bangladeshi members here are somehow trying to fit in the picture... Inda-China-Pakistan and where does BD come?? a slave of Indian govt..thats it

Chatrapati Shivaji Mahraj, how will you feel if I called Maharastra a slave of Delhi - like the Bal Thakereys are doing? Hasn't India post 1947 been a slave of Britain in the past and now of USA? Don't call us slaves, because you yourselves are one. We are a proud sovereign nation; you ought to have discovered that by now.

 

[BanglaBhoot]

In fact they are.

Which one?

I know about BSDF but that doesn't have very much happening and then there is Bangladesh Military Forces but it appears I am banned from there but I have never actually commented in that forum. BMF is a spin off from BSDF as one of the members double crossed the admin of BSDF and took all the members. The guy who runs BMF is apparently a suspicious character and the site has no actual links to the military. From what I have heard about the latter site it seems dubious.

Is there any other sites?

 

[kobiraaz]

Which one?

bdmilitary.. a very good site. but you need to have a paid mail account for that.

 

[BanglaBhoot]

bdmilitary.. a very good site. but you need to have a paid mail account for that.

It appears I am banned from the site ......