Should we make a Petition to change the Devanagari script of Bangla!?

[SHAMK9]

Why the f**k would you want anything to do with arabs/persians?

 

[the just]

Beats me.Bangla language today is a good Khichri of multiple foreign language. From Turkey, English, Arab you name a language, we have at least 10 words from different languages each.if we change the script what will happen to these words?will we change them like bangla?to what?
If we don't have SHOROBORNO and BANJONBORNO ,15 cor people will need to change their name also

 

[Mythal]

@The Snow Queen Just out of curiosity do you know how to write in Persian script? If you don't I am sure it would be great for your petition if you lead by example and start to learn yourself and experience how the entire Bangladeshi population will feel when they are made to learn to write in a new language.

 

[khair_ctg]

no, what i essentially want the people to do is embrace non islamic history as well. After all, it is equally your history as the islamic history is.

What you are doing is ONLY and CATEGORICALLY focussing on islamic history by disowning and not taking into consideration the other history. Dont you think this is "intolerance" to your own kind?

You can learn from history, but you need to take it unbiased. you have shown bias to your history - you are bound to repeat mistakes.

the so-called Muslim history of the subcontinent does contain non-Muslim history. as i said, the subcontinent's Muslim community was formed by people and culture that settled from outside and also those that were native at that point. unless Muslims *completely* change their language to Arabic (which they can rightfully do), Bengali in Nastaliq script is still very inclusive of cultures that are both Muslim and non-Muslim in the subcontinent. if you had any knowledge of the Bengal Muslims or you had openness to South Asia's Muslim civilization, you would have encouraged more Bengali written in Nastaliq script

 

[jaunty]

I highly doubt OP is a girl....

Female, 17 no way lol

Why the f**k would you want anything to do with arabs/persians?

Because 55% Bangladeshis are of foreign origin (Arab, Turk, Persian, Afghan and other central Asians) and 15% of them are mixed. Only 30% are converted, that too from Buddhism.

Proof: Bengali Nationalism a Threat to Bangladesh's National Security | Page 5

 

[khair_ctg]

Beats me.Bangla language today is a good Khichri of multiple foreign language. From Turkey, English, Arab you name a language, we have at least 10 words from different languages each.if we change the script what will happen to these words?will we change them like bangla?to what?
If we don't have SHOROBORNO and BANJONBORNO ,15 cor people will need to change their name also

Bengali language was supposed to be a khichri language, and it would be if the official Bengali of today was not developed by Hindu pundits. this is a language of the Hindu pundits you are talking about. what happened to the Farsi that was practiced for so long in these lands, or the Urdu which has been constantly undermined by Sanskrit-loving Hindu zamindars and their remnants in East Pakistan post-1947? i know this Sanskrit-Bangla as you and most people do who went to school in BD. is this the language that was practised by Muslims before colonization? No. would the language look and sound like this if Muslims' had a hand in developing this language as their own? why was the Musalman Bangla even considered a dialect of Urdu by some, rather than a dialect of Bangla? who had the authority to define what can be called "Bangla", the Hindus or the Muslims? i have tried to post material and discuss these a number of times here. have you given these a thought?

This can be dangerous. Why not be Muslim and reject Arabic influences. is that not possible? look where Arabs live where you live? Instead of blind belief, why not start looking for sources which criticize your religion(s) for a balanced view on religion?

if you want to say that line to a W. European convert Muslim, even they will take it as offensive. what gives you this pass to use such offensive lines to Bangladeshis who were part of great Muslim empires influenced by people and culture from Arab and Farsi worlds? you do realize you are telling people to forgo their heritage and adopt a Hinduized and Dharmicized outlook to submit to the non-Muslims of India.

 

[khair_ctg]

Why the f**k would you want anything to do with arabs/persians?

maybe no one "wants anything to do with arabs/persians". it is about wanting something to do with native Muslim Bengal and its history. that you are writing an indo-aryan language in Nastaliq does not mean "you want anything to do with arabs/persians"

 

[khair_ctg]

Masters and you? Bitch please!! You are culturally conquered people. Go and check how your masters from desert treat you, even today.

but we are supposed to be the culturally conquerING people right. by the way some of the coolest people i met in the States are from the "deserts". i traveled through the the Arab world as well.

 

[Thirdfront]

How can bangla script can be changed by few (even majority of) bangladeshis? It will be still same in India and rest of the world....

 

[kalu_miah]

How can bangla script can be changed by few (even majority of) bangladeshis? It will be still same in India and rest of the world....

Just like Hindi uses Devnagari and Urdu uses Nastaliq, we will keep the name Bangla, you can take some other name like Hind-Bangla or Sanskrit-Bangla:

Hindi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"The dialect upon which Standard Hindi is based is Khariboli, the vernacular of Delhi and the surrounding western Uttar Pradesh and southern Uttarakhand region. This dialect acquired linguistic prestige in the Mughal Empire (17th century) and became known as Urdu, "the language of the court". In the late 19th century, the movement standardising a written language from Khariboli, for the Indian masses in North India, started to standardise Hindi as a separate language from Urdu, which was learnt by the elite. In 1881 Bihar accepted Hindi as its sole official language, replacing Urdu, and thus became the first state of India to adopt Hindi.

After independence, the government of India instituted the following conventions:

• standardisation of grammar: In 1954, the Government of India set up a committee to prepare a grammar of Hindi; The committee's report was released in 1958 as "A Basic Grammar of Modern Hindi"
• standardisation of the orthography, using the Devanagari script, by the Central Hindi Directorate of the Ministry of Education and Culture to bring about uniformity in writing, to improve the shape of some Devanagari characters, and introducing diacritics to express sounds from other languages.

The Constituent Assembly adopted Hindi as the Official Language of the Union on 14 September 1949. Hence, it is celebrated as Hindi Day.

Comparison with Modern Standard Urdu
See also: Hindi–Urdu controversy, Hindustani phonology, and Hindustani grammar
Linguistically, Hindi and Urdu are the same language. Hindi is written in the Devanagari script and uses more Sanskrit words, whereas Urdu is written in the Persian script (Nastaliq) and uses more Persian words."

Nastaʿlīq script - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Thirdfront]

Just like Hindi uses Devnagari and Urdu uses Nastaliq, we will keep the name Bangla, you can take some other name like Hind-Bangla or Sanskrit-Bangla:

Hindi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"The dialect upon which Standard Hindi is based is Khariboli, the vernacular of Delhi and the surrounding western Uttar Pradesh and southern Uttarakhand region. This dialect acquired linguistic prestige in the Mughal Empire (17th century) and became known as Urdu, "the language of the court". In the late 19th century, the movement standardising a written language from Khariboli, for the Indian masses in North India, started to standardise Hindi as a separate language from Urdu, which was learnt by the elite. In 1881 Bihar accepted Hindi as its sole official language, replacing Urdu, and thus became the first state of India to adopt Hindi.

After independence, the government of India instituted the following conventions:

• standardisation of grammar: In 1954, the Government of India set up a committee to prepare a grammar of Hindi; The committee's report was released in 1958 as "A Basic Grammar of Modern Hindi"
• standardisation of the orthography, using the Devanagari script, by the Central Hindi Directorate of the Ministry of Education and Culture to bring about uniformity in writing, to improve the shape of some Devanagari characters, and introducing diacritics to express sounds from other languages.

The Constituent Assembly adopted Hindi as the Official Language of the Union on 14 September 1949. Hence, it is celebrated as Hindi Day.

Comparison with Modern Standard Urdu
See also: Hindi–Urdu controversy, Hindustani phonology, and Hindustani grammar
Linguistically, Hindi and Urdu are the same language. Hindi is written in the Devanagari script and uses more Sanskrit words, whereas Urdu is written in the Persian script (Nastaliq) and uses more Persian words."

Nastaʿlīq script - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Did you get what I said before posting this? Somebody started writing hindi/khariboli with arabic/persian script and was started to be called "urdu", not hindi. Similarly if bangla is written in other script in bd, it will be called something else, may be "burdu" or something like that as rest of the world will still use original bangla...

 

[my2cents]

Should the people of Bangladesh really do away with Devanagiri script of Bangla and go for Arabic/Persian script? To Islamise our Language and bring back our real roots of East Bengal? The way our original forefathers used to write and maybe talk?

I probably have noticed some you guys here being huge supporters of this movement. Should we first start with a Petition?

You should really get away with this inferiority complex and start working on developing country.

I voted for the petition because how can a nation develop when they face identity crisis. If they want to make their country "Arabistan" who are we give them suggestions.

All the best for taking the initiative. You have sown the first seed. May it become the forest.

 

[kalu_miah]

Did you get what I said before posting this? Somebody started writing hindi/khariboli with arabic/persian script and was started to be called "urdu", not hindi. Similarly if bangla is written in other script in bd, it will be called something else, may be "burdu" or something like that as rest of the world will still use original bangla...

You can bet your bottom dollar that we the majority 160 million Bangla speaking people own our Allah (SWT) given right to hold the patent and copyright to call our language Bangla (regardless of what script we choose to use) and our country Bangla-desh. You can sue us if you do not like it.

 

[Thirdfront]

You can bet your bottom dollar that we the majority 160 million Bangla speaking people own our Allah (SWT) given right to hold the patent and copyright to call our language Bangla (regardless of what script we choose to use) and our country Bangla-desh. You can sue us if you do not like it.

No need to sue over burdu language.... while you'r at it, change script of english also to arabic, you can have eurdu language too

 

[Mythal]

You can bet your bottom dollar that we the majority 160 million Bangla speaking people own our Allah (SWT) given right to hold the patent and copyright to call our language Bangla (regardless of what script we choose to use) and our country Bangla-desh. You can sue us if you do not like it.

In the free and anonymous world of internet anyone can say anything, you dont need any right for that. People will laugh at you.. Think that you are a joke, but you have all the right to say whatever you want.