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Should Pakistan Grant MFN Status to India ? - Most Favoured Nation Status

The idea is political, Pakistan is importing such goods because its still cheaper than local made ones. To call India most favorite is an idea not acceptable to us and our Kashmiri allies.


None of those items are essential items, essential ones are even today imported directly from India. I mean what are these roundabout purchases? Sarees? Artificial jewellery?


The issue is political, on one side we're saying Kashmiris are our brothers, the other side we are calling their oppressors, MFN? How would that look?

The fear is third class, below quality goods sold from India !!! Hence NO !!!!
It will be bad for Pakistani Industry development tooo!!!

Should Pakistan Grant MFN Status to India?

Written by Dr. Raja Muhammad Khan

Whereas, according to Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar, Pakistan “has decided in principle to grant the Most Favoured Nation (MFN) status to India,” the question arises, would there be some concession from Indian side in reciprocation.

Though India has already granted Pakistan MFN status in 1996, but events followed thereafter and particularly after 9/11, were against the spirit of bilateralism or even good neighbourly relationship. The incumbent FM said in her statement in National assembly that this is being done owing to a number of “achievements” at the bilateral level. However, these achievements are imperceptible as yet.

The honourable Minister reminded the legislatures that India agreed to resume the dialogue process after a pause of two years, therefore; perhaps such a step would be essential to further this process. She said that, “We want progress on not just one but a number of issues with India on permanent basis besides normalization of overall bilateral relations.”

Earlier Makhdoom Amin Fahim, the Commerce Minister has expressed similar sentiments during his Mumbai tour in September 2011. Amin Fahim even stated in Mumbai that, “there was a strong opinion in his country that India should be given the Most Favoured Nation status,” indeed quite contrary to national sentiments.

It is unclear as yet that, whether this is a unanimous decision of the parliament or incumbent Government or individual choices of these two ministers, after they got appreciation either for their outlook or liberalistic views for their host, however, such decisions should not be taken in haste. After all, those who ruled Pakistan since 1996, must had some logic for not granting such a status to India.

It is submitted for the kind considerations and information of these honourable ministers that, the Composite Dialogue Process between India and Pakistan started in 1997. The Nawaz Sharif Government had exceptional relationship with India from 1997 to 1999, except for the bad patch of Kargil conflict.

So much so, during this tenure then Indian Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee visited Pakistan by road and made a very strong Indian commitment for a better bilateral relationship between India and Pakistan. But, even being a businessman Pakistani Prime Minister having 2/3rd majority in the Parliament, Nawaz sharif did not grant MFN status to India.

Indeed, India came closer to Pakistan for the first time during that period. What were the considerations and logics behind for not giving India the status of MFN must be known to that Government. However, then Government was all out to enhance trade and business with India. Even India was ready to purchase electricity from Pakistan, which was surplus to our needs then.

In the subsequent tenure, during the Military Government of President Pervaiz Musharraf, there have been a number of occasions where, India and Pakistan came closer to each other, where Pakistan could have offered such a concession in lieu of Indian willingness to resume the composite dialogue process particularly after the 12th SAARC Summit on January 6, 2004.

Upon successful conclusion of this Summit in Islamabad, President Musharraf and Indian Premier AB Vajpayee agreed to resume the long suspended composite dialogue processes. These dialogues were to address all issues including the core issue of Jammu and Kashmir.

In fact, from 2004 to 2007, there have been lot of CBMs between India and Pakistan and real developments were made on some of the issues. A number of working groups were established in order to find out the solutions of some of the complicated issues like Kashmir, Siachin and Sir Creek, in fact a real progress.

However, the grant of MFN status was neither demanded nor became a hurdle in the Indo-Pak dialogue process. Unfortunately, sequel to Constitutional Crisis in Pakistan in March 2007, the process of composite dialogue and progress made on them met inordinate delay and retarded thereafter, until suspended following the Mumbai terror attacks in November 2008.

Compared to these two periods; 1997-1999 and 2004-2007, what new and special concessions India has offered to Pakistan, which became compelling factors for our abovementioned ministers to fight Indian case for the grant of MFN to India. Has India stopped human rights violations in its occupied portion of Jammu and Kashmir or decided to do away with the construction of over 100 dams and reservoirs, intended to stop the Pakistani water from three Western rivers, whose water is totally dedicated for Pakistan.

Besides, has India promised to stop supporting the Baloch Sub-nationalists and so-called Islamic terrorists in FATA and other parts of Pakistan? What about the Siachin and Sir Creek issues. If some of these are security issues, but have definite linkages with economy of Pakistan. Indeed, all are having economic repercussions.

Perhaps, MFN status has something to do with the economy and industrial development of Pakistan. Compared to India, Pakistani economy has weak foundation. Its industry is already sick and facing worst crisis of its history. It has fallen prey to domestic instability, law and order situation and insecure from the investment point of view.

Besides, owing to the power shortages and lack of secure environment, the local business class is taking out its assets for investment elsewhere especially in secure countries. Under such insecure conditions, Pakistan cannot expect foreign direct investment (FDI). This would be ideal time for India to flood our markets with Indian goods, after the grant of MFN.

I would not say that over the period of time such a favourable environment has been deliberately created for India to destroy Pakistani economy and industry for ever. But surely, given such a status (MFN) under the prevailing circumstances, where Pakistani industry and economy is highly vulnerable and fragile one can expect even more than this hypothesis.

After such a status, there would be dumping of so-called cheap Indian goods in Pakistani markets. For those unaware of its implication, “Dumping means dropping goods below cost so that the industry of the local country can be destroyed. Then the foreign entity can have a monopoly for decades to come.”

Are we really geared up for such an eventuality? If yes, then be ready for loosing our identity too. After all we are already under the grip of Indian cultural invasion in Pakistan. Thereafter, India can sell us cheap food items, compared to the costlier Pakistani ones. For this purpose, tomorrow we may be asked by India to surrender the remaining portion of waters, currently irrigating our fertile lands. We must understand that one after other we are giving-in a lot and no one realizes that.

The need of hour is that on such issues of national interests, there should be establishment of working groups of technical experts and academicians and national think tanks, whose recommendations should be debated in the Parliament for a consensus decision. Since a formal decision has yet to be made, therefore, let us do it even now, before, personal relations prevail over national interests.

The writer is an analyst of International relations.

http://www.markthetruth.com/current-affair...s-to-india.html


I don't think we can afford to grant India MFN. The wording of MFN as most favorite is incorrect - its the least favorite.

Make individual trade agreements where necessary, not a carte blanche agreement like MFN.

Man your mullahs are feeding you bullshit.

Most favored nation means that a nation would not be discriminated against other countries in the host country.It has not regarding favoring a country over others.

WTO | Understanding the WTO - principles of the trading system

1. Most-favoured-nation (MFN): treating other people equally Under the WTO agreements, countries cannot normally discriminate between their trading partners. Grant someone a special favour (such as a lower customs duty rate for one of their products) and you have to do the same for all other WTO members.
 
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Granting MFN status to India means killing Pakistan's own industry.

Also MFN will be more far beneficial to India than Pakistan....as it can trade with big markets of Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran and CAS.

Big issue is the cheap third class quality items with cheap prices filled into Pakistan markets. The low quality items made in India will harm Pakistanis status to buying reasonable quality goods. Further buying from India will also have effects on China and other countries.
No wonder the economic discussions with Pakistanis are always fun :lol:
 
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I don't like the literal word.

and I don't like Carte Blanche treaties.

There is no ban on trade from Pakistan is there? (Although India keep imposing one every now and then). If you want to sell Sarees, make a deal with a boutique in Pakistan and sell it. Market hogi toh chalay ga, nahi hogi toh nahi chalay ga.

I think you should read the wiki link...
 
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Man your mullahs are feeding you bullshit.

Most favored nation means that a nation would not be discriminated against other countries in the host country.It has not regarding favoring a country over others.

WTO | Understanding the WTO - principles of the trading system

At least, it doesn't stink half as bad as the mouth your parents were responsible for!

We have not imposed a trade ban on India, whereas India only a few weeks ago imposed one on us. We are in no way violation of WTO.

Go and protest on the road. Use Democratic rights of yours. Oh wait, you will just complain and move on.

Errr Forums have an outreach on public opinion too....
 
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Oh not again.

werent the Indians on this very forum and in India in general after being fed by their saffron terrorists all kinds of BS, were calling for cutting off all ties with Pakistan.

Why once again begging for MFN status from Pakistan?
 
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@Awesome well, PA stopped Indian trucks after LOC incident, Pakistan did i first and we have given you MFN status since 2005.

I know its a forum but I am talking in general. People should protest until their voice is heard. It works in India. Surely will work in Pakistan.
 
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@Awesome well, PA stopped Indian trucks after LOC incident, Pakistan did i first and we have given you MFN status since 2005.

I know its a forum but I am talking in general. People should protest until their voice is heard. It works in India. Surely will work in Pakistan.

I heard India stopped our trade first.
 
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Oh not again.werent the Indians on this very forum and in India in general after being fed by their saffron terrorists all kinds of BS, were calling for cutting off all ties with Pakistan.Why once again begging for MFN status from Pakistan?
No one is begging. And wasn't you the one who said Fair and Lovely got costlier in Pakistan. Well MFN will reduce the price for sure. :D

As for saffron terrorist, you also have saffron terrorists. Want proof ?

I heard India stopped our trade first.
Nope. And Pakistan didn't even pay for it. All were perishable items. India didn't allow Pakistani people but they were paid like Hockey players.
 
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No one is begging. And wasn't you the one who said Fair and Lovely got costlier in Pakistan. Well MFN will reduce the price for sure. :D

As for saffron terrorist, you also have saffron terrorists. Want proof ?

1. No not at all. our cosmetic industry in Swat is doing better than fair n lovely import from India.

F&L is available at quiet a reasonable price here after importing from India we pay double the price that of original in India.


anyway we can live without jewlry, cosmetics from India. for food items its ok but just for the sake of such shyt there is no need of MFN.

i will repeat why you want this status when you are against any kinds of ties with Pakistan
 
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1. No not at all. our cosmetic industry in Swat is doing better than fair n lovely import from India.F&L is available at quiet a reasonable price here after importing from India we pay double the price that of original in India.
anyway we can live without jewlry, cosmetics from India. for food items its ok but just for the sake of such shyt there is no need of MFN.I will repeat why you want this status when you are against any kinds of ties with Pakistan
To gain more access to your market and hence getting some if not much, control your economy.

Next time you send Kasab, we will stop our Kirloskar Pumps. :enjoy:
 
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MFN or No MFN who realli cares we gave them the same in 2006 .."kya teer mar liye inho ne????"

well we dont need pakistan or its favours rather its they who need us they need money and as a buisness man im not in favour or cross border trade as paksitanies are known loan defaulters if its starts in a big way there is no garantee that we get owr money on time so i guess we dont need MFN from that they want owr poducts and are getting it thru dubai why should we run to have there favour if we keep this attitude we are bound to loose money as many rice traders lost there money while selling basmati to gulf countries in earli 90's i guess its more of a case of ... is haat de us haat le ...transaction onli in terms of hard cash no loans other wise we will loose money as the situation and unaccountability in pakistan we can never recover owr money inveted there we are not economies like US or China for whome a few billion od $s here or there dont matter
 
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No one is begging. And wasn't you the one who said Fair and Lovely got costlier in Pakistan. Well MFN will reduce the price for sure. :D

As for saffron terrorist, you also have saffron terrorists. Want proof ?

Nope. And Pakistan didn't even pay for it. All were perishable items. India didn't allow Pakistani people but they were paid like Hockey players.

Hockey players, businessmen, poets... Don't pretend to be doodh ka dhula hua in this.
 
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Hockey players, businessmen, poets... Don't pretend to be doodh ka dhula hua in this.
Yaar hum soldiers ke liye kaafi emotional hain. Kya karen. :angel:

Hum sab cheez Shiddat se karte hain. Dosti bhi aur Dushmani bhi. :D
 
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