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Shahrukh Khan surrenders to Shiv Sena threats

sorry, but pakistanis cannot understand the pain we have because of 26/11... i sound harsh but the pakistanis have developed a thick skin about the attacks in their own backyards.... this is a routine matter for them but not for us... even i have seen on these very forum , during many attacks in pakistan (karachi, islamabad etc) people are posting on stupid and funny thread and on other useless threads ...how they boast about getting few f16 from US, who are killing their own people and violating their Sovereignty... this is a harsh reality.. for indians 26/11 is a attack on india and we cannot forget about it for a bit...

p.s. as we all know ajtr is a pakistani so dont need to feed him/her... another conspiracy theorist
With each bomb blast with each attack indian Sovereignty is being voilated from kashmir to kerala.from punjab to northeast.Isn't that thick skin is upon indian who very easily forgets the attack untill the next bomb blast to wake them up from slumbers. isnt that thick skins is upon indians where jurnos compare that more people get killed in road accident in india than in terror attacks. if no then wat all this phony show of sensitivity from you.



indians got used to the terror attacks after suffering them for 30 long years.even pakistan got bored of attacking india through its proxies as india dont react to these attacks anymore.if pakistan has millions of terrorist as strategic assets then sure india too has its 1 billion plus cannon fodder and im sure we can tire our neighboring tormentor with our ghandigiri......well i happen to read on particular sentence in blog last year "Is terrorism that big a problem?.".if indians themselves are so insensitive about the loss of lives of fellow indian due to pak terrorism then why should we blame our leaders whom we only choose for not taking any action against any terror?why should we blame pakistan for implementing its 1000 cut proxy war on india when we for us indians fellow indian's life is cheap unless we ourself or someone close to us fell victim to terror.???????? i would like to share following blog to have discussion on the points i ve raised.i dont know what to do with the reasoning of the following blogger .just felt like puking at his blog after reading it and going through the comments......


Is terrorism that big a problem?

I was reading Bruce Schneier ’s comments today on the mumbai attacks. He made an interesting point on how the attacks were so inefficient. His measure was number of deaths caused per terrosist and the result was like 11 dead and 13 wounded per terrorist.
This got me thinking whether the number of people dead is actually a good measure of determining the gravity of an incident. If so then the reaction of the piublic and the media in india does not make much sense to me. People/Actors/My friends are all uproared by terrorist attacks such as this. Everyone has their opinions on how to solve the problem, some more drastic than others – “The government should do this, the government should do that… we”ll take it to the streets.. politicians are completely inept in providing security.. we should build a stronger navy.. we should equip police with better arms” etc etc – all pretty viable, I agree.
I am not trying to propose any solutions of my own, cause frankly I don’t have any idea as to what should be done and I am sure most people including the media and politicians do not either.
What I want to find out is whether we are concerned about the right problem. Does terrorism really demand such a big reaction or there are other more grave problems which are getting neglected? So I decided to take a look at other recurring incidents that cause the maximum number of casualties/suffering/losses in india.
Let me start with terrorism itself
Terrorism
The times of India reported the following on 27 Aug 2007
“All of these vast swathes of the globe lost a total of 3,280 lives in terrorist incidents between January 2004 and March this year. India alone lost 3,674 lives over the same period of three years and three months.”
“Outside of Iraq, 20,781 people were killed in terrorist violence between January 2004 and March 2007, according to data available from the Worldwide Incidents Tracking System (WITS) of the US National Counter-Terrorism Centre (NCTC). Almost half of them, 9,283 to be precise, were killed in South Asia.”
If I calculate based on this then on an average it is like 18 deaths per day world wide, 3 per day in india.
Road Accidents
According to indiandrivingschools 78,911 people were killed and 3, 99,265 injured in india in 2000 alone. Over 80,000 people die in the traffic crashes annually, over 1.2 million are injured seriously and about 300000 disabled permanently.
In 2004 the number of deths due to road accidents in India was 90,000 (highest for any country) – it was 42,636 in the US.
This means that on an average 219 people die everyday due to road accidents alone. This is more than the mumbai attacks too. And note that this is everyday.
This is not just my view bio-medicine quotes that
“The death toll from car crashes in developed countries is almost 400 times greater than the number of deaths caused by international terrorism, reports a study in the latest issue of Injury Prevention.”
Floods
cnn.com reported this on Sep 24 2008
“The death toll from monsoon floods in eastern India rose to more than 2,400 Tuesday as authorities reported that another 32 people had perished in the disaster that has affected millions of people. The latest deaths in Uttar Pradesh state brought the countrywide death toll from the floods to 2,404 since June, according to the federal home ministry’s disaster management unit.”
If you watch the news this seems to repeat every year.
Dowry
In 1995, the National Crime Bureau of the Government of India reported about 6,000 dowry deaths every year according to wsws
Ok so these are old numbers – may be the problem has abated now – I don’t no.
Tuberculosis
The ‘Ministry of Health and Family Welfare’ says here that
“In India today, two deaths occur every three minutes from tuberculosis (TB). But these deaths can be prevented. With proper care and treatment, TB patients can be cured and the battle against TB can be won”.
two every three minutes, thats like 960 every day! I hope thats incorrect.
I wanted to check the numbers for HIV/AIDS as well but I believe these are difficult to find for any research since they are not directly a result of the epidemic. A good argument for this is found here
Suicide
Times of india reported here that there were 122,637 suicides last year (2007) – an average of 336 every day as reported by the National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB). Ok – so suicide is an individual’s own business so I will not take this any further.
So why is Road Safety and Floods not our topmost priority. They don’t get the same reaction from the public. Some may say that floods are just natural calamities, well thats not entirely true, it is an infrastructure problem. The BJP government had plans to resolve it I think but never got anywhere.
Road accidents are an ever better example cause in my view its not just the government that can be blamed for it. Sure the infrastructure is poor, but based on my observations of the driving habits of my fellow citymen & women they can be equally held responsible.
I feel that all of these including terrorism are unavoidable problems, we can only hope to reduce their intensity. If saving peoples lives is what we wanna do then why not start with the most injurious?
 
Shiv sena's time is about to run out...no takers for their authoritarian ideology...
everybody knows who the real patriots are...
 
Shiv sena's time is about to run out...no takers for their authoritarian ideology...
everybody knows who the real patriots are...

I am also nt like Sivesena and their ideology but on this matter my full support with them
 
Sorry for being little off-topic but just wondering

This is probably the only thread @ PDF where its 199th post and none of the posts are deleted so far :rofl:

@Shiv Sena
Nothing actually...they are imposing their own desire on Shahrukh Khan... not so good

had this been in UK... Nobody would have objected whatsoever

Clearly tells the difference between West and India (The so-called World's largest democracy)
 
Are you stupid or something? :disagree:

America is a country of all religions, ethnicities, and cultures.. very similar to India.

Even though I was born in the United States, I am as much, if not more patriotic than most of the citizens living in India.

That was by far the stupidest comment.


Can i ask you one question.
Are you an American Citizen???

My Father Worked for IAF
My Father nor I went in search of Green Pastures.

So sitting in America don't teach me the lessons of Patriotism
 
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Ofcourse how can you compare the two:

One is municiple level party, surviving on extortion handouts and during 26/11 never came out of its hole.

The other is kicking *** and wining against the most powerful military machine in history.

So how come or dare you compare them. :coffee:

Whom are you trying to insult here?
Taliban or your own Army?
:lol:
 
Shiv sena's patriotism works only

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I think india.
 
Sory for wut?

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who is american here???

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Taliban or ur own army?
 
@Shiv Sena
Nothing actually...they are imposing their own desire on Shahrukh Khan... not so good

Not their own desires --- its the desire of the absolute majority of Indians.

I am a Madrasi (in SS parlance) living and working in Mumbai for the past two years and yes Im not into that Marathi maanooos to support them.

But in this issue i extend them my fullest support.

This man called SRK is today what he is because of India and as such he is expected to empathise with Mumbaikars on such a emotional day.

Instead if he decides to attend a party - a gala dinner and dance program - as said in the orignal link, every one will protest.

Whats the big deal here ?

had this been in UK... Nobody would have objected whatsoever

Clearly tells the difference between West and India (The so-called World's largest democracy)

Yeah thats why you people whine about growing Islamophobia in the West in all other threads.
 
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Hafiz Saeed's wrong statement at wrong time has created trouble for him and for Pakistan... 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks were done by those who are creating confusion and destruction in the region. As India and Pakistan's relation are very easy to spoil being typical rivals so any spark will cause fire. This is what they've done.


Watch this video


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Got this video from a pro TalibanAlQaeda student organization member here in Pakistan... they were using it to brainwash and prepare suicide bombers. It is clearly heard from one of the terrorists talking on the phone

It is time to not take into account these non state actors, build our relations on official level and work for the betterment of humanity...whatever LeT says its not our official stance, since Hafiz Saeed is a Pakistani we have to care for him but trial are underway and he will be dealt according to the court decision this post clears his position hope so… we must look for the actual enemies of humanity…
 
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