Send back Sri Lankan Air Force jawans, say all parties in Tamil Nadu

[third eye]

Central govt. is not a dictator at first place. If Indian govt. can't give importance for our emotions means forget about TN in Indian union and enjoy with Sinhalese relationship who gng to stop you. Like Jews(after genocide) we need separate nation it can be either EELAM OR TN.

Lankans(Sinhalese) is our eternal enemy like Pakistan for India.

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

 

[Su-11]

The history of Tamil-Sinhalese enmity goes long before India came into being, and it probably will long after if India ceases to exist. No Self respecting Tamil would allow Sinhalese to train in their land. If the central govt wants to court Sinhalese, they can do it in other states, not in Tamil Nadu. But then again, self-respect is lacking nowadays with some ditching the land they were born into and heading off to the west, and then trying to project themselves as being Tamil. Those "Tamils" are more dangerous than the Sinhalese themselves.

They will most probably be sent back or relocated to other states. This same situation happened some 2-3 years back when DMK was in power, and even then those Sinhalese Airmen were kicked out. This is an equal-equal exercise Jaya is doing to project herself as no less Tamil than Karunanidhi. Tamil politics as usual.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Central govt. is not a dictator at first place. If Indian govt. can't give importance for our emotions means forget about TN in Indian union and enjoy with Sinhalese relationship who gng to stop you. Like Jews(after genocide) we need separate nation it can be either EELAM OR TN.

Lankans(Sinhalese) is our eternal enemy like Pakistan for India.

There is no point in trying together back to pre-1962 days, that part of separatist history is gone for ever. Since then, India reied staying aloof, India tried getting involved as an honest broker, and everything failed. All three parties were responsible.

Sri Lanka was utterly irresponsible in its treatment of its Tamil minority, and for driving it to the point of desperation. A series if disenfranchising measures taken by that government made Tamilians slaves in the country they had inhabited for centuries. If this was not calculated to drive over the brink a race used to rule, what else was needed?

The Jaffna Tamils, not the plantation Tamils, responded to their miserable condition with violence, violence that led to the development of the suicide bomber. People forget that the suicide bomber, and her bomb jacket, were Tamil Tiger inventions, not, as is wrongly thought, from the middle east, or Afghanistan.

India perhaps made the worst mess that was possible, intervening in a bitter internal quarrel and incurring the displeasure of both parties. She had no business offering covert support, she had no business browbeating the guerrilla factions into a forced and unwilling peace with the authorities, she had no business offering to police the peace, and she had no business withdrawing and leaving the two sides to battle it out. It was morally repugnant although discreet and tactful not to intervene during the final days of the Sri Lankan battle to crush the LTTE. Crushing them was necessary, but turning a blind eye to the civilian massacre was not.

In this situation, the game is ripe for hostile nations to offer financial and industrial incentives to the Sri Lankans. India is doomed if she acts and doomed if she does not. If she acts, all the emotional hurt and guilt feelings of the Tamilians will surge out, as it has done. Their complicity in the I'll-treatment of Sri Lankan Tamils, who were admired in the abstract and spurned in daily life, lends a hypocritical air to their protests today, but it is nevertheless a deep emotional issue which has become politicised and has to be delicately handled.

In passing, only our inept government could contemplate putting Sri Lankan airmen into Tambaram. As an act of hapless clumsiness and insensitivity, it rates right up there with MMS agreeing to discuss Baluchistan with the Pakistanis. We seem to be singularly unfortunate at this juncture of our history, to have these Keystone cops and the sinister, blood-stained Parivar gang as our only options.

Enough to think of becoming a Bangladeshi again. Under an assumed name, of course.

It is only e desperation of political manipulative like Vaiko that keeps this issue alive.

 

[jayron]

I think you look like a joker here. MGR and Karunanidhi supported free tamil Eelam earlier even they made it as their parties objectives without party discrimination. Later Jayalaitha and Karunanithi forgot their objectives and played damn politics but Vaiko still showing firmness in his policies and he struggling for that. IMO he is far better than above two, you simply sitting at US and wrote random things.

Hey look there is a cute little Hitler here mesmerized by that freak Vaiko's speeches! 21st century neither has the time nor interest for people like you. Sorry!

 

[Bang Galore]

In passing, only our inept government could contemplate putting Sri Lankan airmen into Tambaram. As an act of hapless clumsiness and insensitivity, it rates right up there with MMS agreeing to discuss Baluchistan with the Pakistanis. We seem to be singularly unfortunate at this juncture of our history, to have these Keystone cops and the sinister, blood-stained Parivar gang as our only options.

Couldn't agree more. Proves that you can go to Harvard, Oxford or Cambridge, stupidity will eventually out.

 

[Neuro]

There is no point in trying together back to pre-1962 days, that part of separatist history is gone for ever. Since then, India reied staying aloof, India tried getting involved as an honest broker, and everything failed. All three parties were responsible.

Sri Lanka was utterly irresponsible in its treatment of its Tamil minority, and for driving it to the point of desperation. A series if disenfranchising measures taken by that government made Tamilians slaves in the country they had inhabited for centuries. If this was not calculated to drive over the brink a race used to rule, what else was needed?

The Jaffna Tamils, not the plantation Tamils, responded to their miserable condition with violence, violence that led to the development of the suicide bomber. People forget that the suicide bomber, and her bomb jacket, were Tamil Tiger inventions, not, as is wrongly thought, from the middle east, or Afghanistan.

India perhaps made the worst mess that was possible, intervening in a bitter internal quarrel and incurring the displeasure of both parties. She had no business offering covert support, she had no business browbeating the guerrilla factions into a forced and unwilling peace with the authorities, she had no business offering to police the peace, and she had no business withdrawing and leaving the two sides to battle it out. It was morally repugnant although discreet and tactful not to intervene during the final days of the Sri Lankan battle to crush the LTTE. Crushing them was necessary, but turning a blind eye to the civilian massacre was not.

In this situation, the game is ripe for hostile nations to offer financial and industrial incentives to the Sri Lankans. India is doomed if she acts and doomed if she does not. If she acts, all the emotional hurt and guilt feelings of the Tamilians will surge out, as it has done. Their complicity in the I'll-treatment of Sri Lankan Tamils, who were admired in the abstract and spurned in daily life, lends a hypocritical air to their protests today, but it is nevertheless a deep emotional issue which has become politicised and has to be delicately handled.

In passing, only our inept government could contemplate putting Sri Lankan airmen into Tambaram. As an act of hapless clumsiness and insensitivity, it rates right up there with MMS agreeing to discuss Baluchistan with the Pakistanis. We seem to be singularly unfortunate at this juncture of our history, to have these Keystone cops and the sinister, blood-stained Parivar gang as our only options.

Enough to think of becoming a Bangladeshi again. Under an assumed name, of course.

It is only e desperation of political manipulative like Vaiko that keeps this issue alive.

I don't know what you trying to say. First of all SL historically belong to tamils , singalese came from bengal/kalinga regions.

LTTE is not a terrorist organization its purely freedom fighting that is the truth. For eg: Hafiz's sons enjoying life at India but he act against India .Prapaharan LTTE leader elder son Anthony studied aeronautical engg in europe and established air force wing and he died in the final stages of war so their every move is 2 attain freeland . People joined in that organization with their own wish.

If India always acting against TN interest means free nation is our only option. We can't provide security for our fisherman , Kachativu already handed over to SL .if TN were separate nation means such things never happened and we saved our race from such genocide. TN having responsibility to protect rest of the tamil people. India is great nation TN loss won't affect much I think.

 

[Neuro]

Hey look there is a cute little Hitler here mesmerized by that freak Vaiko's speeches! 21st century neither has the time nor interest for people like you. Sorry!

My native is south TN I have enough lands in Theni , Mullaiperyar dam is a jugular vein for us. We know how Vaiko expressed our views and protested aganist Kerala government. Have you heard about sterlite company issues in Tuticorin ??? , I am not even interested to discuss with ignorant like you. I am from TN I know ground realities than you.

 

[baker]

ok then make a country of TN and take raja as your PM

 

[Joe Shearer]

I don't know what you trying to say. First of all SL historically belong to tamils , singalese came from bengal/kalinga regions.

Literary records, not the most reliable testimony, show the Sinhala date of arrival as 543 BC. Many authorities believe that large-scale Tamil incursions into Sri Lanka date from the Chola period, the 10th century AD. What makes you say that the Tamils were there earlier?

LTTE is not a terrorist organization its purely freedom fighting that is the truth. For eg: Hafiz's sons enjoying life at India but he act against India .Prapaharan LTTE leader elder son Anthony studied aeronautical engg in europe and established air force wing and he died in the final stages of war so their every move is 2 attain freeland . People joined in that organization with their own wish.

The days of justifying terrorism by calling terrorists freedom fighters is over. More than 30 countries have condemned and proscribed the LTTE as a terrorist organization. It is irrelevant whether people joined the organization voluntarily or were forced to join. There is evidence that many were forced to join.

If India always acting against TN interest means free nation is our only option. We can't provide security for our fisherman , Kachativu already handed over to SL .if TN were separate nation means such things never happened and we saved our race from such genocide. TN having responsibility to protect rest of the tamil people. India is great nation TN loss won't affect much I think.

If you don't know, and apparently you don't, Kachchativu was administered by Ceylon even in the 1920s. Later, it was jointly ruled by Ceylon and Madras Presidency. The passion regarding the island is not abut the island but about the fishing grounds around, which are no longer accessible. From 1974 onwards, Indian fishermen have been cautioned against going to Sri Lankan waters to fish, and they consistently disregarded these guidelines. The situation deteriorated when the military situation deteriorated, and the LTTE used the island as an intermediate point of shipment in smuggling in arms and ammunition. The Sri Lankan Navy then began forcibly restricting access to the island and entry into the surrounding waters.

At this period, Tamil Nadu policemen would not go towards sea beaches in the evenings for fear of being shot by smugglers.

The security problem was here, not as you have stated.

 

[Neuro]

Literary records, not the most reliable testimony, show the Sinhala date of arrival as 543 BC. Many authorities believe that large-scale Tamil incursions into Sri Lanka date from the Chola period, the 10th century AD. What makes you say that the Tamils were there earlier?



The days of justifying terrorism by calling terrorists freedom fighters is over. More than 30 countries have condemned and proscribed the LTTE as a terrorist organization. It is irrelevant whether people joined the organization voluntarily or were forced to join. There is evidence that many were forced to join.



If you don't know, and apparently you don't, Kachchativu was administered by Ceylon even in the 1920s. Later, it was jointly ruled by Ceylon and Madras Presidency. The passion regarding the island is not abut the island but about the fishing grounds around, which are no longer accessible. From 1974 onwards, Indian fishermen have been cautioned against going to Sri Lankan waters to fish, and they consistently disregarded these guidelines. The situation deteriorated when the military situation deteriorated, and the LTTE used the island as an intermediate point of shipment in smuggling in arms and ammunition. The Sri Lankan Navy then began forcibly restricting access to the island and entry into the surrounding waters.

At this period, Tamil Nadu policemen would not go towards sea beaches in the evenings for fear of being shot by smugglers.

The security problem was here, not as you have stated.

Mate you don't know anything just check linguistics and respective reports. In addition read Kumari kandam and lemuria.

Even some countries issued EELAM related stamps so wats the point.

Kachathivu belongs to Baskara sethpathi Ramnad(India/TN) maharaja (Pandya king) for many years. Man don't argue poorly get life.

ok then make a country of TN and take raja as your PM

That fine..... remaining things we will decide.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Mate you don't know anything just check linguistics and respective reports.

Linguists report that Tamil is spoken in the north-east and the east, Sinhala is spoken in the rest. There are also pockets of Tamil speakers in the plantation country.

So?

In addition read Kumari kandam and lemuria.

This is really hilarious. Kumari Kandam is an account of a mythical land mass buried beneath the sea, our own legend of Atlantis. Just like that legendary sunken continent, there is NO GEOLOGICAL PROOF of such a landmass. The reference to Lemuria is even more hilarious. That land mass was conceptualised to account for anomalies in biological terms, and there is no geological evidence, again, that it ever existed.

What are these references to mythical land masses supposed to convey?

Kachathivu belongs to Baskara sethpathi Ramnad(India/TN) maharaja (Pandya king) .

There is no evidence that you have cited. Is this like Chinese claims to all islands in the South China Sea?

Man don't argue poorly get life.

Have you noticed that I am putting forward facts, while you are waving your hands about vigorously?

 

[Neuro]

Linguists report that Tamil is spoken in the north-east and the east, Sinhala is spoken in the rest. There are also pockets of Tamil speakers in the plantation country.

So?



This is really hilarious. Kumari Kandam is an account of a mythical land mass buried beneath the sea, our own legend of Atlantis. Just like that legendary sunken continent, there is NO GEOLOGICAL PROOF of such a landmass. The reference to Lemuria is even more hilarious. That land mass was conceptualised to account for anomalies in biological terms, and there is no geological evidence, again, that it ever existed.

What are these references to mythical land masses supposed to convey?



There is no evidence that you have cited. Is this like Chinese claims to all islands in the South China Sea?



Have you noticed that I am putting forward facts, while you are waving your hands about vigorously?

If you decided something and arguing means we can't conclude any thing , once again proved your insanity through the post. I can't argue with ignorant like you ,I rest my case here.

Here is evidence for Kachativu isses. still you want that copper plate means come to TN and see.

http://save-tamils.org/dmdocuments/miscellaneous/Appeal_letter_to_parliamentarian_to_retrieve_Katchatheevu_Island__English.pdf

 

[Bang Galore]

Mate you don't know anything just check linguistics and respective reports. In addition read Kumari kandam and lemuria.

Even some countries issued EELAM related stamps so wats the point.

Kachathivu belongs to Baskara sethpathi Ramnad(India/TN) maharaja (Pandya king) for many years. Man don't argue poorly get life.

JS doesn't know anything? You really have absolutely no idea who you are speaking to, do you? Actually, your posts should be a big give away. Do you see the "Professionals" under the moniker or are you so blinded by your agenda that you notice nothing else. Btw, JS has a strong tamil connection and it silly to lump him with the "other Indians" as to being less knowlegable or insensitive to Tamils.

On topic, you are becoming a bit of a pain with your constant separatist rhetoric. If you felt so strongly, maybe you should have taken a boat or gone swimming to join the LTTE. Either you would have single handedly defeated the hated Sinhalese or we would have been spared the rubbish huffing & panting that we are now forced to endure.

 

[Sashan]

So what are you suggesting, and where does this logic take us? Are we supposed to be intervening in the affairs of Pakistani Punjab because we ourselves have a large number of Punjabis, and therefore we have a prescriptive right to intervene wherever there are Punjabis? Or is it Hndus that you recommend that we support? There is a huge difference between the two.

If it is the first, that we intervene due to ethnic links, we must first have the mandate from those in the Punjab to represent them, to form even a very weak case. Without such a consent on their part, we have even less right to talk about the murderous situation in Pakistani Punjab than otherwise. Even with such consent, countries around the world are bound to see this looking over the fence as a worrying and illegal habit.

If it is the second, then do we accept the Two Nation Theory? Do we suggest that Hindus are socially incompatible with Muslims, and therefore the creation of Pakistan was a necessary step? Do we further accept that Pakistan has a right to lecture us whenever there is a breach of law and order and Muslims are involved, in however indirect a way?

I am not suggesting interference with other countries. Here is what I am suggesting - when minorities (hindus/sikhs/christians/ahmadis it does not matter) from Pakistan/Bangladesh/SL are looking for refuge in India provide them. Do not look at it from the prism of religion. When 3 million to 30 million illegal immigrants whose allegiance to India are questionable are living in India without GOI doing a squat, isn't it in the moral authority of India to protect the minorities living in the said nations as they belong to the erstwhile Indian empire? or for geopolitics sake sacrifice them? The question is what is India's preference? secular fiber or moral fiber?


Read this "Rinkle's case is not an isolated incident. There are tens of such cases each month where young Hindu girls are abducted, raped, forcibly converted and then married to their tormentors. Socially exploited and economically backward, an increasing number of Pakistani Hindu families are trying to make their way across the border into India where they hope to find some empathy and, in most cases, a new home. India's welcome, if one can at all call it that, has been cold."


'Pakistan's hindu refugees find no haven in India' : EDITOR'S NOTE - India Today

Arulmolivarman is not real hero of ponniyin selvan the actual legend is Vandhiyathevan(my favorite).

For me personally, Sivagamiyin Sabadam is my favourite and Paranjothi is my favourite character. The preference was not due to one is better than the other but which one I read first in my childhood days.

 

[Machete]

JS doesn't know anything? You really have absolutely no idea who you are speaking to, do you? Actually, your posts should be a big give away. Do you see the "Professionals" under the moniker or are you so blinded by your agenda that you notice nothing else. Btw, JS has a strong tamil connection and it silly to lump him with the "other Indians" as to being less knowlegable or insensitive to Tamils.

On topic, you are becoming a bit of a pain with your constant separatist rhetoric. If you felt so strongly, maybe you should have taken a boat or gone swimming to join the LTTE. Either you would have single handedly defeated the hated Sinhalese or we would have been spared the rubbish huffing & panting that we are now forced to endure.

I know well JS is expert in defense related issues in PDF I am great fan of his post that is different. But tamil issues is ours so I knw more than him , for eg: he don't anything abt kachativu now I provided evidence can he refute my post.

I am living in my own land and need free nation ,who the hell are you to suggest me to do that or this thing? I know wat I am writing damn.

For me personally, Sivagamiyin Sabadam is my favourite and Paranjothi is my favourite character. The preference was not due to one is better than the other but which one I read first in my childhood days.

I think after you read Poniyin selvan , sivagamiying sabatham would occupy second favorite. Even I have a plan to read sivagamiyin sabatham shortly. Have a nice day mate.