Seleucus Nicator's Invasion of India, c.306-303 BC

[KingMamba]

I have heard that Janjuas are related to or descendants of Porus and his clan.

Perhaps no way to be 100% certain though.

Doesn't change the fact that they failed. India too failed in battles mostly when were divided.

Even Alexander failed here btw. He had to run away after knowing that 5000 war elephants of Nanda empire were waiting for him. He did not have the heart for such battle especially after the encounter with Raja Puru.

Anyway, Greeks were a superpowers of that time. Nobody can deny that.

Let's not get carried away, by all accounts Alexander wanted to fight but his men lost the will to do so.

 

[EyanKhan]

How can you offend me my young padawan learner ?

But why so much anger at Ghazni ?

Its not as if he was any better or worse than any other Ruler from those times ?

Civility, Humanity & Chivalry were the 'exception' to the Rule not the Rule itself in those times !

He was much worse then other rulers and he did all that in the name of religion, when all he cared for was loot and plunder.

Chalu za use bhi maaf kar date hain

So say what is your favourite non-native empire waise?

He did not have the heart for such battle especially after the encounter with Raja Puru.

Alexander by all means wanted to do so , it was his soldiers who were in the end tired of the constant compaigning and shortage of fresh troops from Greece/Macedon.

 

[anonymus]

No, you don't understand. Where did I say "Arab rule in India"? Stop making things up. I said Arabs invaded India. Was Sindh not part of India?

Certainly Sindh was part of India but the contention here is that after a brief rule of some 30 years, Arab invasion failed. Your original contention was that as to how come India had well known armies when they were defeated by Arabs which is invalid as Arab invasion eventually failed.

 

[Desert Fox]

Doesn't change the fact that they failed. India too failed in battles mostly when were divided.

Even Alexander failed here btw. He had to run away after knowing that 5000 war elephants of Nanda empire were waiting for him. He did not have the heart for such battle especially after the encounter with Raja Puru.

Anyway, Greeks were a superpowers of that time. Nobody can deny that.

Well, it only makes sense that Alexander couldn't proceed any further due to logistical constraints and distance from the Greek mainland. Fighting wars away from home is no easy task and the fact that the Greeks made it that far into india after defeating the Persian Empire goes to show their capabilities. Not sure how the mauryans would have fared had they attempted any similar expedition towards Greece.

 

[EyanKhan]

Not sure how the mauryans would have fared

No Mauryans at the time , Nanda's were the one's he had to face(who were also amazingly strong)

 

[KingMamba]

Certainly Sindh was part of India but the contention here is that after a brief rule of some 30 years, Arab invasion failed. Your original contention was that as to how come India had well known armies when they were defeated by Arabs which is invalid as Arab invasion eventually failed.

Arabs lost that one battle but won a bunch of others, truth is after they were stopped they got busy with European invasions and never came back eastward.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Let's not get carried away, by all accounts Alexander wanted to fight but his men lost the will to do so.

Jab sipahiyon ki phat gayi to Raja akela kya ukhadleta ?

Sorry for the crudeness.

 

[KingMamba]

Jab sipahiyon ki phat gayi to Raja akela kya ukhadleta ?

Sorry for the crudeness.

Well that is why he retired brave as he was, he wasn't suicidal.

 

[anonymus]

Well, it only makes sense that Alexander couldn't proceed any further due to logistical constraints and distance from the Greek mainland. Fighting wars away from home is no easy task and the fact that the Greeks made it that far into india after defeating the Persian Empire goes to show their capabilities. Not sure how the mauryans would have fared had they attempted any similar expedition towards Greece.

Dude after fall of darius II, Persia was pretty much fair game for anyone who has extraterritorial ambition. This is one of the reason that i rank generals like hannibal much higher than alexander. There is little bravery in kicking a dead man into his grave.

A mauryan invasion of Greece was bound to fail but not due to account of persians.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Well, it only makes sense that Alexander couldn't proceed any further due to logistical constraints and distance from the Greek mainland. Fighting wars away from home is no easy task and the fact that the Greeks made it that far into india after defeating the Persian Empire goes to show their capabilities. Not sure how the mauryans would have fared had they attempted any similar expedition towards Greece.

We never needed to make any such expeditions. We had whatever we needed in our lands. The sub-continent is like a self contained world.

The Greeks ran away plain and simple after getting a bloody nose from Raju Puru, nobody is denying their bravery and achievements otherwise.

 

[A Town]

Well, it only makes sense that Alexander couldn't proceed any further due to logistical constraints and distance from the Greek mainland. Fighting wars away from home is no easy task and the fact that the Greeks made it that far into india after defeating the Persian Empire goes to show their capabilities. Not sure how the mauryans would have fared had they attempted any similar expedition towards Greece.

A Maurayan expedition of Greece would have been pointless, no need for it.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Arabs lost that one battle but won a bunch of others, truth is after they were stopped they got busy with European invasions and never came back eastward.

Arabs won battles only in Sindh nowhere else. They tried their hand in Rajasthan and lost. If they had won "a bunch of other battles" they would have extended their rule beyond Sindh.

 

[Armstrong]

He was much worse then other rulers and he did all that in the name of religion, when all he cared for was loot and plunder.

Chalu za use bhi maaf kar date hain

So say what is your favourite non-native empire waise?

I dunno if he was or he wasn't because History is anything but an exact Science but rather a patchwork of Opinions pieced together from a myriad sources so we may never know the truth about these things. Khair hes pretty much irrelevant now anyhow !

Non-Native Empires: the Rashiuddin, Roman, Greek, Andalusian & Ottoman Empires !

Native Empires: Sher Shah Suri, Delhi Sultanate & Ashoka's Empire !

 

[LURKER]

Well, it only makes sense that Alexander couldn't proceed any further due to logistical constraints and distance from the Greek mainland. Fighting wars away from home is no easy task and the fact that the Greeks made it that far into india after defeating the Persian Empire goes to show their capabilities. Not sure how the mauryans would have fared had they attempted any similar expedition towards Greece.

Cant imagine them going too far with those elephants.

Arabs lost that one battle but won a bunch of others, truth is after they were stopped they got busy with European invasions and never came back eastward.

That one battle was decisive but the Arabs constantly tried to make their way into India for a long period of time but falied.

 

[EyanKhan]

Cant imagine them going too far with those elephants.

Your pro pic goes perfectly with it