Saudi Arabia F-15 Silent Eagle and F-35 JSF

[NeutralCitizen]

lol kurdish iraq is threatening to stop oil or soming to you first you need to sort them out

Kurds are just as much apart of Iraq as the arabs are, Turkey should stop trying to act like Israel against Iraq.

We are not prisoner also we are not thugs to blackmail people there is a law in the country, that will bring any to court.

Are you Kurdish ?

 

[Malik Alashter]

Kurds are just as much apart of Iraq as the arabs are, Turkey should stop trying to act like Israel against Iraq.



Are you Kurdish ?

No, I'm Iraqi Shi'ite and that's make no difference to us as Shi'ite we stand with the Kurds before and we will today but may stand against Masoud Albarzani not because he's Kurds but because he's trying to take the country to the unknown, our goal is to build a country of law where no one better than the other or above the law.

 

[IbnAlwaled]

The only way for Iraq is to split to three parts. Kurds, Shia and Sunni. The Kurds are determined for independence and Sunnis will not accept the current Iranian government in Baghdad ruling them.
Oh Saddam how we miss you.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

The only way for Iraq is to split to three parts. Kurds, Shia and Sunni. The Kurds are determined for independence and Sunnis will not accept the current Iranian government in Baghdad ruling them.
Oh Saddam how we miss you.

LOL If Iraq secceds into any parts it will bring war, Iran Rules Baghdad llol what an idiot you are Shiite rule Iraq and that does not mean Iran rules them, Yes i'm sure how you miss saddam when he invaded kuwait and fired missiles at saudi arabia i'm sure you would have missed it when he would have invaded saudi arabia and put your family on the firing squad only to get yourselfs saved by egypt again saddam would have hanged the entire royal family not to mention saddam killed thousands of muslim kurds you are a certified naive idiot. uncle sam won't be so kind to save you this time.

 

[Malik Alashter]

The only way for Iraq is to split to three parts. Kurds, Shia and Sunni. The Kurds are determined for independence and Sunnis will not accept the current Iranian government in Baghdad ruling them.
Oh Saddam how we miss you.

But I can't wish the same to your country, since I'm not a mason mule like you.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

The only way for Iraq is to split to three parts. Kurds, Shia and Sunni. The Kurds are determined for independence and Sunnis will not accept the current Iranian government in Baghdad ruling them.
Oh Saddam how we miss you.

Its really disgusting how some people with the same background support Almaliki who came to power on US tanks while they call others "Zionists", Yah we get it, since the traitor Almaliki is a Shi'it then he is eligible to rule the country while Sunni are Zionists. Thank God, at least now we clearly know our enemies.

 

[lionheartsalahudin]

congrats to saudi's lets hope they put them to good use,but i wonder will israelis have sleepless nights bcuz of these f-35s and f-15s any isarelis arnd pls clarify

 

[Malik Alashter]

Its really disgusting how some people with the same background support Almaliki who came to power on US tanks while they call others "Zionists", Yah we get it, since the traitor Almaliki is a Shi'it then he is eligible to rule the country while Sunni are Zionists. Thank God, at least now we clearly know our enemies.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم (قل موتوا بغيظك&#1605 صدق الله العلي العظيم. believe it or not every one knows who's the traitor what a shame guys you disgusting really.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم (قل موتوا بغيظك&#1605 صدق الله العلي العظيم. believe it or not every one knows who's the traitor what a shame guys you disgusting really.

الله يرحمك يا صدام دعست عليهم وما كان يطلعلهم صوت هالخونة, رح انكمل المشوار ان شاء الله ولن نبقي منهم احد بس بالاول نخلص من بشار بعدين ايران وحزب الشيطان وبعدين الباقي
We don't want to derail this thread anymore, this is enough for you.

 

[Desert Fox]

I know, its an outstanding tank, but it follows the same unique features of eastern tanks in terms of low height from the ground,

The advantage of a low height Tank is that it has a low silhouette which makes it harder to spot not to mention a smaller target, while most Western Tanks are big and stick out like a sour thumb, but they make up for that with their heavy and sophisticated armor while sacrificing maneuverability and speed.

relatively as light as Russian and Chinese tanks,

The lighter the Tank, the better.

has 3 crews+125 mm main gun+ auto-loader, almost has a very similar design to T-72/80. Actually western tanks doctrine of building tanks has proved its superiority over the eastern one.

Of course, western Tanks have proven to be superior, but against what? Monkey models sold to Arab countries by the Soviet Union? The Iraqi Tanks of Saddam's army were no match for the American and Western Tanks, the Soviet sold them crap downgraded Tanks.

Not denying the fact that Western Tanks have held a qualitative edge vs Soviet designed Tanks, but the two armies never met on the battlefield, not to mention present day Russian and Eastern Tanks are on par with Western Tanks in many aspects.

Pakistan was offered the M1A1's back in the late 80's, but we rejected it for many reasons:

1). It was too heavy and not suitable for our desert regions in South Eastern Pakistan.

2). It was too costly and required a lot of maintenance.

3). It was a fuel guzzler.

4). It made us dependent on the Americans.

So we went with our own project in a joint venture with the Chinese to produce a Tank suitable for our requirements as well as the environment of our region.

1). We customized our Al-Khalid Tanks with indigenous ERA as well as composite armor which has defeated various 120 and 125mm rounds.

2). We equipped our Al-Khalids with home made 125mm Guns.

3). We installed indigenous IBMS.

4). We installed French thermal imaging system

5). Home made laser detection/threat warning system.

6). Home made DU rounds.

7). Home made explosion suppression system.

8). Home made Engine compartment and fire extinguishing system.

9). Al-Khalid has a top speed of 72km's an hour, its powered by Ukrainian 6TD2 1,200 horse power engine.

10). Al-Khalid has Ukrainian as well as home made Active Protection Suit.

11). Al-Khalid has hunter killer capability.

12). Al-Khalid can fire Beam Riding Anti Tank Guided Missiles as well as Anti Helicopter missiles through its 125mm gun.

13). Al-Khalid is equipped with home made DU rounds.

14). It's not a fuel guzzler.

15). And most importantly we are not dependent on a unreliable partner like the USA who has a habit of withdrawing the supply of important parts of the Tank.

 

[Malik Alashter]

The advantage of a low height Tank is that it has a low silhouette which makes it harder to spot not to mention a smaller target, while most Western Tanks are big and stick out like a sour thumb, but they make up for that with their heavy and sophisticated armor while sacrificing maneuverability and speed.



The lighter the Tank, the better.



Of course, western Tanks have proven to be superior, but against what? Monkey models sold to Arab countries by the Soviet Union? The Iraqi Tanks of Saddam's army were no match for the American and Western Tanks, the Soviet sold them crap downgraded Tanks.

Not denying the fact that Western Tanks have held a qualitative edge vs Soviet designed Tanks, but the two armies never met on the battlefield, not to mention present day Russian and Eastern Tanks are on par with Western Tanks in many aspects.

Pakistan was offered the M1A1's back in the late 80's, but we rejected it for many reasons:

1). It was to heavy and not suitable for our desert regions in South Eastern Pakistan.

2). It was to costly and required a lot of maintenance.

3). It was a fuel guzzler.

4). It made us dependent on the Americans.

So we went with our own project in a joint venture with the Chinese to produce a Tank suitable for our requirements as well as the environment of our region.

1). We customized our Al-Khalid Tanks with indigenous ERA as well as composite armor which as defeated various 120 and 125mm rounds.

2). We equipped our Al-Khalids with home made 125mm Guns.

3). We installed indigenous IBMS.

4). We installed French thermal imaging system

5). Home made laser detection/threat warning system.

6). Home made DU round.

7). Home made explosion suppression system.

8). Home made Engine compartment and fire extinguishing system.

9). Al-Khalid has a top speed of 72km's an hour, its powered by Ukrainian 6TD2 1,200 horse power engine.

10). Al-Khalid has Ukrainian as well as home made Active Protection Suit.

11). Al-Khalid has hunter killer capability.

12). Al-Khalid can fire Beam Riding Anti Tank Guided Missiles as well as Anti Helicopter missiles through its 125mm gun.

13). Al-Khalid is equipped with home made DU rounds.

14). It's not a fuel guzzler.

15). And most importantly we are not dependent on a unreliable partner like the USA who has a habit of withdrawing the supply of important parts of the Tank.

Bro it's the tanker not the tank remember the germans had beaten the frenchand russian with them have better tanks and more than the germans had so it's the tanker not the tank, the Arabs are out of history and countability because of there dictators leaders, you make your own tanks you know them better good luck to the Pakistanis who made something regardless the slow economy.

 

[Desert Fox]

Bro it's the tanker not the tank remember the germans had beaten the frenchand russian with them have better tanks and more than the germans had so it's the tanker not the tank, the Arabs are out of history and countability because of there dictators leaders, you make your own tanks you know them better good luck to the Pakistanis who made something regardless the slow economy.

You are right, in the end it all comes down to the Tank's crew, a well trained crew is the main force behind the Tank, and thanks for your compliment.

 

[Malik Alashter]

الله يرحمك يا صدام دعست عليهم وما كان يطلعلهم صوت هالخونة, رح انكمل المشوار ان شاء الله ولن نبقي منهم احد بس بالاول نخلص من بشار بعدين ايران وحزب الشيطان وبعدين الباقي
We don't want to derail this thread anymore, this is enough for you.

الخونة الجبناء هم الذين باعوا باعوا كرامتهم بعرض زائل, man stop derailing the thread lets talk about the Pakistani Tank it looks neat and they said it has more than 600 mm thickness of homogeneous of steal and composites plus its projectile can penetrate more than 700mm which is triple what Iraq had in 1991 now if we look to the Arab Abrams tanks I've read its only 450 mm thickness that means less what the AK has so who wins??? from Iraq to Pakistan and Bangladesh with respect

 

[King Solomon]

The advantage of a low height Tank is that it has a low silhouette which makes it harder to spot not to mention a smaller target, while most Western Tanks are big and stick out like a sour thumb, but they make up for that with their heavy and sophisticated armor while sacrificing maneuverability and speed.



The lighter the Tank, the better.



Of course, western Tanks have proven to be superior, but against what? Monkey models sold to Arab countries by the Soviet Union? The Iraqi Tanks of Saddam's army were no match for the American and Western Tanks, the Soviet sold them crap downgraded Tanks.

Not denying the fact that Western Tanks have held a qualitative edge vs Soviet designed Tanks, but the two armies never met on the battlefield, not to mention present day Russian and Eastern Tanks are on par with Western Tanks in many aspects.

Pakistan was offered the M1A1's back in the late 80's, but we rejected it for many reasons:

1). It was too heavy and not suitable for our desert regions in South Eastern Pakistan.

2). It was too costly and required a lot of maintenance.

3). It was a fuel guzzler.

4). It made us dependent on the Americans.

So we went with our own project in a joint venture with the Chinese to produce a Tank suitable for our requirements as well as the environment of our region.

1). We customized our Al-Khalid Tanks with indigenous ERA as well as composite armor which has defeated various 120 and 125mm rounds.

2). We equipped our Al-Khalids with home made 125mm Guns.

3). We installed indigenous IBMS.

4). We installed French thermal imaging system

5). Home made laser detection/threat warning system.

6). Home made DU rounds.

7). Home made explosion suppression system.

8). Home made Engine compartment and fire extinguishing system.

9). Al-Khalid has a top speed of 72km's an hour, its powered by Ukrainian 6TD2 1,200 horse power engine.

10). Al-Khalid has Ukrainian as well as home made Active Protection Suit.

11). Al-Khalid has hunter killer capability.

12). Al-Khalid can fire Beam Riding Anti Tank Guided Missiles as well as Anti Helicopter missiles through its 125mm gun.

13). Al-Khalid is equipped with home made DU rounds.

14). It's not a fuel guzzler.

15). And most importantly we are not dependent on a unreliable partner like the USA who has a habit of withdrawing the supply of important parts of the Tank.

Thanks for the info. Didn't know al-khalid was so advanced. Pakistan has sure made strides in military field with the limited resources and corrupt leaders that it has.

Unlike F 16s/eurofighter/f15s, these JF 17, al-khalids are un-sanctionable military hardwares in times of war.

 

[Malik Alashter]

You are right, in the end it all comes down to the Tank's crew, a well trained crew is the main force behind the Tank, and thanks for your compliment.

One more think believe it or not it wasn't compliment, it was reality, I wish our government look toward the AK its much much better than the T-90 or Oblut the Ukrainian tank but the biggest fault of the AK is Pakistan they don't know how to promote there product for instance we in need to drones Pakistan make,em but have they ever worked hard to promote them????????????????????? No.