Saudi Arabia F-15 Silent Eagle and F-35 JSF

[Arabian Legend]

As you guys can see the rumor is extremely strong. And it just might turn out to be true we just have to wait and see, however I still say 124 is too much a number and maybe an exaggeration but as I said we have to wait and see.

i totally agree with you that 124 is too much in my opinion 60-70 would more than enough for the navy. lets get back to the topic i can't wait to see this monster flying over Riyadh

its gonna be a hot slap to some people if know what i mean

 

[Arsalan]

Soon we will be the ones with better scientific knowledge and infrastructure trust me. That is if things keep on going the way there are in the nest 10 years. However nothing neither Pakistan or Turkey or Indonesia can offer will come close to the F-15SAs and SEs at the moment not to mention F-35.

We live in a pretty F***ed up region and for that we need deterrent we didn't have a strong "looking" army in 1991 and we got invaded however now we do and unlike you states know that KSA can kick their *** three times over if it wanted to.

Al-Khalid and Abrams or Leopard IIs are two different classes of tanks. And we are already supporting Pakistan's defense industry but we will not do so on the cost of the effectiveness of our own armed forces and I am sure you understand that a mountain tank is not like a desert tank.

dear brother, please don't get me wrong but how is Saudia going to get to a better technology knowledge stage, i mean buying is off course not going to help a lot.
Saudia is not producing any of this latest hardware themselves.

yes, F-35 is a great plane, of course at the moment turkey and Pakistan cannot offer anything of that caliber. but are you aware how many nations participated in the F-35 program. what i mean to say is that IF instead of buying airplanes from US worth billions of dollars, these Muslim states could have joined some joint venture project with countries like Pakistan and Turkey, i am really positive the outcome would have been quite bright!

i am not saying that instead of buying Apaches and F-15 saudia, or for that instant oman or UAE or other gulf nations, could have come to Turkey and/or Pakistan and offered them and asked them to build for them with that amount of money, the result would have been good for all of us!

and yes, i am happy for the high tech equipment you guys are getting but wish that it could have been better for overall entire Muslim nation.
cooperation is something we must strongly push for!!
i hope Turkey and Pakistan can soon join hands for some defense hardware!

 

[Mosamania]

dear brother, please don't get me wrong but how is Saudia going to get to a better technology knowledge stage, i mean buying is off course not going to help a lot.
Saudia is not producing any of this latest hardware themselves.

yes, F-35 is a great plane, of course at the moment turkey and Pakistan cannot offer anything of that caliber. but are you aware how many nations participated in the F-35 program. what i mean to say is that IF instead of buying airplanes from US worth billions of dollars, these Muslim states could have joined some joint venture project with countries like Pakistan and Turkey, i am really positive the outcome would have been quite bright!

i am not saying that instead of buying Apaches and F-15 saudia, or for that instant oman or UAE or other gulf nations, could have come to Turkey and/or Pakistan and offered them and asked them to build for them with that amount of money, the result would have been good for all of us!

The Bulk of our military deals contain ToT of the equipment. Sure there will be some reservations regarding certain tech however we will be able to produce it in time. That's why I say in 10 years Saudi Arabia will be a lot different then what it is now. Just like how we are 100% different from what we were 10 years ago. Development in both civil and military fields in KSA is going on in a fast pace and I mean extremely fast despite some people saying it is "Slow" however for people living here everything is changing beyond recognition.

Trust me when I say in 10 years things will be extremely different and all the signs are pointing out into that direction.

 

[Arsalan]

The Bulk of our military deals contain ToT of the equipment. Sure there will be some reservations regarding certain tech however we will be able to produce it in time. That's why I say in 10 years Saudi Arabia will be a lot different then what it is now. Just like how we are 100% different from what we were 10 years ago. Development in both civil and military fields in KSA is going on in a fast pace and I mean extremely fast despite some people saying it is "Slow" however for people living here everything is changing beyond recognition.

Trust me when I say in 10 years things will be extremely different and all the signs are pointing out into that direction.

i really hope you are right and wish you the best of luck!
progress of Saudi Arabia or for that instant, any Muslim country is good for the entire Muslim world!

 

[Developereo]

Boeing in St. Louis, Missouri celebrates on Monday a contract to build 124 F/A-18 fighter jets for
Saudi Arabia. The Saudi government wants the F/A-18 fighter jet in its military and Boeing said it is ready to fill the order.

This brings a sigh of relief to the metro area after Boeing first announced a restructuring and possible layoffs in September 2010. This deal will likely keep thousands of jobs in place in St. Louis.

"Well, the Superhornet is the leading fighter for our U.S. Navy today and it supports roughly 16,000 Boeing jobs, here in the region," said Dennis Mullenberg, president of Boeing Defense, Space and Security.

He said an additional 100,000 jobs across the country support the program, as well. The deal also brings a sense of stability to the area. Those planes will be built and delivered over the next three years

I would bet good money that a large number of those 100,000 people detest Arabs and Muslims.

 

[King Solomon]

These new toys are good for dealing with Iran, but when the real enemy comes (Israel), these toys will be spatted like flies in the air by IAF.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

Where to start, where to start?

You have so many pieces of equipment, yet at the end of the day will never be able to put on any type of "show" for the world to see. Will still rely on other nations to serve on the front lines.

Most of Saudi purchases are a waste of money. A problem with Saudi leaders buying in bulk. Your the Guardians of Mecca and Medina, do you think Muslim nations are going to watch you get bombed by Iran or any other nation in the region let alone world?

Saudi strategy is deterrence. Not the "Best defense is a good offense" line. Which suits you perfectly. But keep in mind, once your oil runs out the West is ditching you the first day. And that Trillions of Dollars you have nesting in New York or London frozen.

Have you read "Why Arabs lose wars?" Quite informative and factual. Explains your need to Balance your Army with your Guard.

 

[Tihamah]

the one we should be buying is F-22 if they are willing to sell 20 of them will be enough

Saudi Arabia shouldn't even consider any F-18's at all, it is old & it is inferior to the F-15 by miles.

Saudi Arabia shouldn't consider either F-35 unless it is fully upgraded, more EF Typhoon is better choice or some modern stealth jet like PAK-50 if not then at least the rafale, to diverse suppliers at the moment.

btw, F-15 Silent Eagle is good choice, i prefer it over the F-35 JSF which does not look very comptent rather just cheap alternative for the F-22.

 

[Arsalan]

dear brother, please don't get me wrong but how is Saudia going to get to a better technology knowledge stage, i mean buying is off course not going to help a lot.
Saudia is not producing any of this latest hardware themselves.

yes, F-35 is a great plane, of course at the moment turkey and Pakistan cannot offer anything of that caliber. but are you aware how many nations participated in the F-35 program. what i mean to say is that IF instead of buying airplanes from US worth billions of dollars, these Muslim states could have joined some joint venture project with countries like Pakistan and Turkey, i am really positive the outcome would have been quite bright!

i am not saying that instead of buying Apaches and F-15 saudia, or for that instant oman or UAE or other gulf nations, could have come to Turkey and/or Pakistan and offered them and asked them to build for them with that amount of money, the result would have been good for all of us!

and yes, i am happy for the high tech equipment you guys are getting but wish that it could have been better for overall entire Muslim nation.
cooperation is something we must strongly push for!!
i hope Turkey and Pakistan can soon join hands for some defense hardware!

for example, when Saudia was looking for a MBT, Al Khalid was an option but the Abrams were preferred. mnay international analysts rank AK to be equally good, you can study the systems yourself and find out that this is quote true and moreover, AK was three times less costly then Abrams.
the Abrams was selected and AK ditched not because of some technological superiority but because with AK among ranks, the Saudias couldnt say "YEA WE GOT ABRAMS, THE US FINEST WAR MACHINE"
this is the problem.
looking it from my side, if at that time, Saudia Arabia and Pakistan could have come to an agreement to further develop the tank and improve on almost everything, even by increasing the cost to double, that still would have been less costly to the procured Abrams but would have been MUCH MUCH better!

not bashing anyone for any defense deal but just stressing on the need of cooperation among Muslim States!

 

[Quasar]

Boeing receives multi-year contract from US navy for 124 F/A 18 and EA 18 Aircraft

ST. LOUIS, Sept. 28, 2010-- The Boeing Company [NYSE: BA] has been awarded a new multi-year procurement (MYP) contract from the U.S. Navy for 124 F/A-18E/F Super Hornet and EA-18G Growler aircraft.
The new contract is valued at $5.297 billion. Under the terms of the agreement, Boeing will deliver 66 Super Hornets and 58 Growlers to the Navy from 2012 through 2015.
"The men and women of Boeing are honored to provide the Super Hornet's advanced, combat-proven multirole capability and the EA-18G's unmatched airborne electronic attack capability to the American warfighters serving their nation around the world each day," said Boeing F/A-18 and EA-18 Programs Vice President Kory Mathews. "Procurement of these 124 aircraft through a multi-year contract takes advantage of the full efficiencies of Boeing’s production and supplier operations, which will generate more than $600 million in cost savings for U.S. taxpayers."
The new contract is the third multi-year agreement between Boeing and the Navy for production of the F/A-18E/F, the Navy's frontline strike fighter, which delivers forward-deployed air combat capability around the world from the decks of 11 Navy aircraft carriers, including ongoing missions in Afghanistan.
The EA-18G, the United States' newest combat aircraft, conducts advanced airborne electronic attack (AEA) missions to support Navy and joint force requirements. The EA-18G is scheduled for its first combat deployment later this year.
"Boeing and its Hornet Industry Team suppliers have delivered every Super Hornet and Growler on schedule to the warfighter and on budget for the taxpayer from the first Super Hornet delivery,” said Mathews. “The first two F/A-18E/F multi-year contracts generated more than $1.7 billion in savings for the United States. We look forward to continuing to provide unmatched capability and value through this contract."
Boeing delivered 210 Super Hornets to the Navy during the initial F/A-18E/F MYP, which spanned fiscal years 2000 through 2004. Boeing was then awarded a second MYP that included aircraft procurement during fiscal years 2005 through 2009. Aircraft deliveries under that contract continue through 2011 and total 257 aircraft.
The Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet is a multirole aircraft, able to perform virtually every mission in the tactical spectrum, including air superiority, day/night strike with precision-guided weapons, fighter escort, close air support, suppression of enemy air defenses, maritime strike, reconnaissance, forward air control and tanker missions. Boeing has delivered more than 430 F/A-18E/Fs to the U.S. Navy.
The Boeing EA-18G Growler is the only air combat platform that delivers full-spectrum AEA capability along with the targeting and self-defense capabilities derived from the Navy's frontline fighter, the F/A-18E/F Block II Super Hornet. A derivative of the two-seat F/A-18F Block II, the EA-18G's highly flexible design enables warfighters to operate either from the deck of an aircraft carrier or from land-based airfields. It is replacing the Navy's current AEA platform, the EA-6B Prowler, which has been in service since 1971. The EA-18G joined the Navy's aircraft fleet in 2008, when it was introduced to fleet training squadron VAQ-129.
A unit of The Boeing Company, Boeing Defense, Space & Security is one of the world's largest defense, space and security businesses specializing in innovative and capabilities-driven customer solutions, and the world's largest and most versatile manufacturer of military aircraft. Headquartered in St. Louis, Boeing Defense, Space & Security is a $34 billion business with 68,000 employees worldwide.

Boeing: Boeing Receives Multi-Year Contract from US Navy for 124 F/A-18 and EA-18 Aircraft

 

[Mosamania]

Boeing receives multi-year contract from US navy for 124 F/A 18 and EA 18 Aircraft

ST. LOUIS, Sept. 28, 2010-- The Boeing Company [NYSE: BA] has been awarded a new multi-year procurement (MYP) contract from the U.S. Navy for 124 F/A-18E/F Super Hornet and EA-18G Growler aircraft.
The new contract is valued at $5.297 billion. Under the terms of the agreement, Boeing will deliver 66 Super Hornets and 58 Growlers to the Navy from 2012 through 2015.
"The men and women of Boeing are honored to provide the Super Hornet's advanced, combat-proven multirole capability and the EA-18G's unmatched airborne electronic attack capability to the American warfighters serving their nation around the world each day," said Boeing F/A-18 and EA-18 Programs Vice President Kory Mathews. "Procurement of these 124 aircraft through a multi-year contract takes advantage of the full efficiencies of Boeing’s production and supplier operations, which will generate more than $600 million in cost savings for U.S. taxpayers."
The new contract is the third multi-year agreement between Boeing and the Navy for production of the F/A-18E/F, the Navy's frontline strike fighter, which delivers forward-deployed air combat capability around the world from the decks of 11 Navy aircraft carriers, including ongoing missions in Afghanistan.
The EA-18G, the United States' newest combat aircraft, conducts advanced airborne electronic attack (AEA) missions to support Navy and joint force requirements. The EA-18G is scheduled for its first combat deployment later this year.
"Boeing and its Hornet Industry Team suppliers have delivered every Super Hornet and Growler on schedule to the warfighter and on budget for the taxpayer from the first Super Hornet delivery,” said Mathews. “The first two F/A-18E/F multi-year contracts generated more than $1.7 billion in savings for the United States. We look forward to continuing to provide unmatched capability and value through this contract."
Boeing delivered 210 Super Hornets to the Navy during the initial F/A-18E/F MYP, which spanned fiscal years 2000 through 2004. Boeing was then awarded a second MYP that included aircraft procurement during fiscal years 2005 through 2009. Aircraft deliveries under that contract continue through 2011 and total 257 aircraft.
The Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet is a multirole aircraft, able to perform virtually every mission in the tactical spectrum, including air superiority, day/night strike with precision-guided weapons, fighter escort, close air support, suppression of enemy air defenses, maritime strike, reconnaissance, forward air control and tanker missions. Boeing has delivered more than 430 F/A-18E/Fs to the U.S. Navy.
The Boeing EA-18G Growler is the only air combat platform that delivers full-spectrum AEA capability along with the targeting and self-defense capabilities derived from the Navy's frontline fighter, the F/A-18E/F Block II Super Hornet. A derivative of the two-seat F/A-18F Block II, the EA-18G's highly flexible design enables warfighters to operate either from the deck of an aircraft carrier or from land-based airfields. It is replacing the Navy's current AEA platform, the EA-6B Prowler, which has been in service since 1971. The EA-18G joined the Navy's aircraft fleet in 2008, when it was introduced to fleet training squadron VAQ-129.
A unit of The Boeing Company, Boeing Defense, Space & Security is one of the world's largest defense, space and security businesses specializing in innovative and capabilities-driven customer solutions, and the world's largest and most versatile manufacturer of military aircraft. Headquartered in St. Louis, Boeing Defense, Space & Security is a $34 billion business with 68,000 employees worldwide.

Boeing: Boeing Receives Multi-Year Contract from US Navy for 124 F/A-18 and EA-18 Aircraft

Yes this is why I said it is a rumor. Because of the things I mentioned everyone is on the edge of their seats.

And I love the people coming here talking about how "KSA is a failed army" it is just too funny.

 

[King Solomon]

Yes this is why I said it is a rumor. Because of the things I mentioned everyone is on the edge of their seats.

And I love the people coming here talking about how "KSA is a failed army" it is just too funny.

Which war did you win in the last century by yourself? That is, without the Ottoman-Saudi wars backed by british, which proved how much of a traitor Arabs are.

 

[Deno]

Which war did you win in the last century by yourself? That is, without the Ottoman-Saudi wars backed by british, which proved how much of a traitor Arabs are.

Ottomans and Saudis fought for centuries and Ottomans learned that it was impossible to control Arabian desert.

And no Saudis were not supported by British.... Saudis defeated the tribe that was supported by British.....

and please try to stay on topic...

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

dear brother, please don't get me wrong but how is Saudia going to get to a better technology knowledge stage, i mean buying is off course not going to help a lot.
Saudia is not producing any of this latest hardware themselves.

yes, F-35 is a great plane, of course at the moment turkey and Pakistan cannot offer anything of that caliber. but are you aware how many nations participated in the F-35 program. what i mean to say is that IF instead of buying airplanes from US worth billions of dollars, these Muslim states could have joined some joint venture project with countries like Pakistan and Turkey, i am really positive the outcome would have been quite bright!

i am not saying that instead of buying Apaches and F-15 saudia, or for that instant oman or UAE or other gulf nations, could have come to Turkey and/or Pakistan and offered them and asked them to build for them with that amount of money, the result would have been good for all of us!

and yes, i am happy for the high tech equipment you guys are getting but wish that it could have been better for overall entire Muslim nation.
cooperation is something we must strongly push for!!
i hope Turkey and Pakistan can soon join hands for some defense hardware!

Frankly speaking. I don't think Pakistan nor Turkey could build a similar aircraft to F-35 in the next 30 years even with allot of money. Money is not everything regarding this case.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

for example, when Saudia was looking for a MBT, Al Khalid was an option but the Abrams were preferred. mnay international analysts rank AK to be equally good, you can study the systems yourself and find out that this is quote true and moreover, AK was three times less costly then Abrams.
the Abrams was selected and AK ditched not because of some technological superiority but because with AK among ranks, the Saudias couldnt say "YEA WE GOT ABRAMS, THE US FINEST WAR MACHINE"
this is the problem.
looking it from my side, if at that time, Saudia Arabia and Pakistan could have come to an agreement to further develop the tank and improve on almost everything, even by increasing the cost to double, that still would have been less costly to the procured Abrams but would have been MUCH MUCH better!

not bashing anyone for any defense deal but just stressing on the need of cooperation among Muslim States!

Are you serious man!! Abrams is the same as Khalid?

Which war did you win in the last century by yourself? That is, without the Ottoman-Saudi wars backed by british, which proved how much of a traitor Arabs are.

Worthless...

Got no attention!? sad