SAFIR-3 space launch vehicle

[Ultima Thule]

Confirmation by south Korean sources that it is indeed an engine related to the Hwasong-15 engine:

December 10, 2019 12:54

The engine is most likely intended for a modified version of the Hwasong-15 ICBM.

The South Korean military is keeping a close watch on North Korea to see whether it will launch an ICBM disguised as a space rocket as a shot across the bow of the U.S.

http://web.archive.org/web/20191211...e/data/html_dir/2019/12/10/2019121001617.html
http://archive.is/fjrA3​

A week later, a second test is announced, with a record 420 seconds engine burn time, thus definitely ruling out that a solid propellant engine was involved in the test, and as claimed by some western sources:

Spokesman for Academy of Defence Science of DPRK Issues Statement

Pyongyang, December 14 (KCNA) -- Another crucial test was successfully conducted at the Sohae Satellite Launching Ground from 22:41 to 22:48 on December 13, 2019.

Our defence scientists were greatly honored to receive warm congratulations from the Central Committee of the Workers' Party of Korea on the spot.

The research successes being registered by us in defence science one after another recently will be applied to further bolstering up the reliable strategic nuclear deterrent of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. -0-

http://kcna.kp/kcna.user.article.retrieveNewsViewInfoList.kcmsf​

Seven minutes burn time is nothing comparable to any previous liquid propellant engines tested in both Iran and the DPRK. It is for the Moon rocket Unha-9, that will place a 500 kg probe into a lunar orbit before 2025 as announced in 2016.

Therefore, no surprise if Iran also announces a lunar exploration program of its own sometime in the near future. That is after a successful North Korean launch of its new Paektusan-1D engine, possibly scheduled for end of January 2020!

Logical as the Safir-3A SLV is scheduled to place the IRANSAT-1 communications satellite of 1 tons in GEO by 2021.

As a by-product, with an announced 3 tons payload capacity into GEO by 2026 (IRANSAT-2 communication satellite), the Safir-3C will also be able to carry 6 tons into LEO for Iran's manned space program, such as its orbital Iranian 'Soyuz' manned spacecraft, also unlocking the future space station project.

Iran's Communication Satellite Developing Plan 2026 of the Iranian Space Research Center (I.S.R.C.) has revealed its future space launcher's payload capabilities:

• Nahid-1, 50 Kg, LEO, Safir-1 SLV
• Nahid-2, < 100 Kg, LEO, Safir-2 SLV
• IRANSAT-1, 1 ton, GEO, Safir-3A SLV
• IRANSAT-2, 3 tons, GEO, Safir-3C SLV

http://web.archive.org/web/20190801104910if_/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVw4DqgXUAEOXQg.jpg ; https://archive.fo/TVRNZ/e148f10050430ae9d3e72e3606acc85cb88610a6.jpg ; https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVw4DqgXUAEOXQg.jpg:large
▲ 1. Iran's roadmap for communication satellites. From official presentation of the Iranian Space Research Center.
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is this Iranians space launcher thread or for North Korean, stop samping this thread
@waz @The Eagle @Dubious Please ban @Galactic Penguin SST from this threads, thanks

 

[Sina-1]

is this Iranians space launcher thread or for North Korean, stop samping this thread
@waz @The Eagle @Dubious Please ban @Galactic Penguin SST from this threads, thanks

@waz @Dubious @The Eagle
I couldn’t give a 2 cent that you banned the nk guy. However your partial treatment makes me sick. Your compatriot @seven0seven has derailed a couple of threads in the Iranian section and you let him run around freely. There two implications for such a foul behavior:
1. You are destroying your own forum by constantly being partial and thus creating a worse user experience for every non Pakistani.
2. You’re actions colors off on your country as well. The forum is associated to your country for obvious reasons and how it is run will ultimately be seen as a trait from Pakistan and Pakistanis.

 

[SubWater]

First report of a three stages rocket being prepared. Note that the same source 'chosun.com' was the one that has correctly predicted 6 months in advance the 3rd October 2019 launch of the Pukguksong-3 SLBM. You read it here first. Original source here.

This is consistent with the upcoming Unha-9 launch campaign preparation. And this means it would take more than one month of preparation for this new launcher, as the older and now retired Kwamgmyongsong SLV (Unha-4) requires about a month. Meaning that a launch could be envisaged by the end of January 2020 at the earliest.

December 11, 2019 10:39

North Korea last Saturday conducted what appears to have been a liquid-fuel engine thrust test at [Sohae SLC] Tongchang-ri near the Chinese border.

There are signs that it has already moved a three-stage rocket from a missile factory in Sanum-dong in Pyongyang to an assembly facility at [Sohae SLC] Tongchang-ri.

Military authorities speculate that if [Sohae SLC] Tongchang-ri is chosen for the launch, it will be a rocket carrying a satellite rather than a straightforward intercontinental ballistic missile.

North Korea launched its Unha or Kwangmyongsong-class rockets from the 67 m-high fixed launch pad at [Sohae SLC] Tongchang-ri. But ICBMs have been launched from mobile launchers since 2017.

http://web.archive.org/web/20191211...e/data/html_dir/2019/12/11/2019121101218.html
http://archive.ph/qsSth​

In preparation for the Unha-9 SLV launch campaign, the U.S. military is even upgrading its surveillance tool too!

December 11, 2019

The United States again flew a surveillance aircraft over the Korean Peninsula, an aviation tracker said Wednesday, the latest in a series of flights to monitor North Korea amid growing concern Pyongyang may be preparing for a long-range rocket launch.

The RQ-4 Global Hawk was spotted over the Korean Peninsula at 52,000 feet, Aircraft Spots said on its Twitter account without specifying the exact time of the operation.

Global Hawk is a high-altitude long-endurance unmanned aerial vehicle capable of performing reconnaissance missions in the air for more than 30 hours at a time. It is considered one of the most advanced intelligence-gathering platforms in the world.

In recent weeks, the U.S. has deployed several types of surveillance planes over the peninsula, including its Navy's P-3C maritime surveillance plane, the RC-135U Combat Sent, the RC-135W Rivet Joint, the RC-135S Cobra Ball aircraft and the E-8C aircraft.

http://archive.ph/hdpaF/617e55e41c4902b334f4a61bdfe51c524193670a.jpg ; https://archive.ph/hdpaF/a4a10b4271a339a62ce79b178a2c02b2d90e7fdf/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20191211...a/YH/2012/12/25/PYH2012122600220034100_P4.jpg
▲ 1. The RQ-4 Global Hawk was spotted over the Korean Peninsula at 52,000 feet.

http://web.archive.org/web/20191211045727/https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20191211003700325?section=national/defense
http://archive.ph/7dZVI​

Oh, my lovely friend you got banned.
I think you forgot your advise to me about next launch !!!
lol
please surprise us with huge Christmas gift.
Yankees soon realize, they must negotiate with DPRK as equal power.
victory belong to you and your leader.

Bro, don't get banned two often though, or you might not be able to comment the next launch!

Happened in 2016, so be extra cautious with the expected increase in the enemy's provocations! Don't reply, ignore them. The comments on the next launch is worth much more!

Here, the first official mention by KCNA of an new type ICBM and to be launched "in the not distant future":

Pyongyang, November 30 (KCNA) -- A vice director general of the Department of Japanese Affairs of the Foreign Ministry of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea released the following statement on Saturday:

Abe may see what a real ballistic missile is in the not distant future and under his nose.

Abe would be well-advised to distinguish multiple launch rocket from a ballistic missile.

http://www.pyongyangtimes.com.kp/?bbs=32258
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Meanwhile, satellite imagery from November reporting activities at the Sohae space center (six vehicles).

 

[Ultima Thule]

@waz @Dubious @The Eagle
I couldn’t give a 2 cent that you banned the nk guy. However your partial treatment makes me sick. Your compatriot @seven0seven has derailed a couple of threads in the Iranian section and you let him run around freely. There two implications for such a foul behavior:
1. You are destroying your own forum by constantly being partial and thus creating a worse user experience for every non Pakistani.
2. You’re actions colors off on your country as well. The forum is associated to your country for obvious reasons and how it is run will ultimately be seen as a trait from Pakistan and Pakistanis.

And i am tried to tell you guys the REAL Facts about Iran military capability if war impose by west on Iran but your buddy/countrymen @Hack-Hook have false ego that nobody can hurt/or destroy Iran from west/east and i just try to correct his wrong thinking, if they want to capture or destroy you isn't difficult for them

 

[raptor22]

And i am tried to tell you guys the REAL Facts about Iran military capability if war impose by west on Iran but your buddy/countrymen @Hack-Hook have false ego that nobody can hurt/or destroy Iran from west/east and i just try to correct his wrong thinking, if they want to capture or destroy you isn't difficult for them

@Hack-Hook is right.

 

[Hack-Hook]

And i am tried to tell you guys the REAL Facts about Iran military capability if war impose by west on Iran but your buddy/countrymen @Hack-Hook have false ego that nobody can hurt/or destroy Iran from west/east and i just try to correct his wrong thinking, if they want to capture or destroy you isn't difficult for them

you still don't get what i say .
I don't say nobody con do that , I say nobody will do that because we have deterrence , because they knew the price of that is something they are not willing to pay

 

[Ultima Thule]

@Hack-Hook is right.

why he is right can you explain me

you still don't get what i say .
I don't say nobody con do that , I say nobody will do that because we have deterrence , because they knew the price of that is something they are not willing to pay

What deterrence you have, nukes

 

[StormBreaker]

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Windows Paint or MS Word ?

 

[Hack-Hook]

why he is right can you explain me


What deterrence you have, nukes

as i mentioned there is different type of deterrence nuke is just one of them

 

[Ultima Thule]

as i mentioned there is different type of deterrence nuke is just one of them

What type deterrence do you have

 

[925boy]

And i am tried to tell you guys the REAL Facts about Iran military capability if war impose by west on Iran but your buddy/countrymen @Hack-Hook have false ego that nobody can hurt/or destroy Iran from west/east and i just try to correct his wrong thinking, if they want to capture or destroy you isn't difficult for them

Regarding

And i am tried to tell you guys the REAL Facts about Iran military capability if war impose by west on Iran

IS THIS SO???? Ok so explain this to all of us - YOu first of all said that the west has shut down all of Iran's radars right? 1st of all, Can you show us backup evidence that the West has shut down Iran's radars??( pls dont lie beacuse i will go and find that post.)

Then you went on to say that Iran is only good at AD and Ballistic missiles. SO how can Iran be good at Air defense when the west like you said has already shut down Iran's radars AND we know AD needs radars to operate?


Can you make that make sense for all of us? because you generalize alot which makes many of us know how low your knowledge about Iran's military is low. On Iran's military, We are passionate and knowledgeable, while you are ignorant in that topic(you generalize alot and have no specified knowledge or history).

I will also say that yes, you've roamed like a wild trolling lion in this thread and its amazing(but not) that no MOD has put a leash on you yet. @Sina-1 's post about that is correct.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Regarding

IS THIS SO???? Ok so explain this to all of us - YOu first of all said that the west has shut down all of Iran's radars right? 1st of all, Can you show us backup evidence that the West has shut down Iran's radars??( pls dont lie beacuse i will go and find that post.)

Then you went on to say that Iran is only good at AD and Ballistic missiles. SO how can Iran be good at Air defense when the west like you said has already shut down Iran's radars AND we know AD needs radars to operate?


Can you make that make sense for all of us? because you generalize alot which makes many of us know how low your knowledge about Iran's military is low. On Iran's military, We are passionate and knowledgeable, while you are ignorant in that topic(you generalize alot and have no specified knowledge or history).

I will also say that yes, you've roamed like a wild trolling lion in this thread and its amazing(but not) that no MOD has put a leash on you yet. @Sina-1 's post about that is correct.

And you think you have better tech than west/USA, they have EMP warheads carried by Tomahawk/ALCM, so what you gonna do cry

 

[Sina-1]

I will also say that yes, you've roamed like a wild trolling lion in this thread and its amazing(but not) that no MOD has put a leash on you yet. @Sina-1 's post about that is correct.

The ironi!

 

[925boy]

And you think you have better tech than west/USA, they have EMP warheads carried by Tomahawk/ALCM, so what you gonna do cry

Stop changing the topic! we were initially discussing Iran's military capabilities now you've jumped into the THEORY of how Iran would act in a conflict against the west. Firstly, are these "EMP warheads" real or they are only real in your head?

Talking about how Iran would act in a conflict, i also already asked you why the west has not attacked Iran in over 40 years they've had the chance to since the revolution and you couldn't give me a good answer, but here you are now, jumping into military conflict theory, which i would be a dullard to assume you even have any real knowledge about. The answer is that Iran has effective military deterrence, which once again proves your theory that Iran's military isn't good to be false. As a matter of fact, its Pakistan's military that has proven to adversaries to be a toothless tiger, because after all, Pakistan has nuclear weapons and that didn't deter India from striking Pakistani territories in retaliation for the Pulwama attack.


Finally, cant you go troll in a Pakistani thread? or are you worried the other Pakistanis will also chew you aliv for your ignorance?

 

[Ultima Thule]

Stop changing the topic! we were initially discussing Iran's military capabilities now you've jumped into the THEORY of how Iran would act in a conflict against the west. Firstly, are these "EMP warheads" real or they are only real in your head?

Talking about how Iran would act in a conflict, i also already asked you why the west has not attacked Iran in over 40 years they've had the chance to since the revolution and you couldn't give me a good answer, but here you are now, jumping into military conflict theory, which i would be a dullard to assume you even have any real knowledge about. The answer is that Iran has effective military deterrence, which once again proves your theory that Iran's military isn't good to be false. As a matter of fact, its Pakistan's military that has proven to adversaries to be a toothless tiger, because after all, Pakistan has nuclear weapons and that didn't deter India from striking Pakistani territories in retaliation for the Pulwama attack.


Finally, cant you go troll in a Pakistani thread? or are you worried the other Pakistanis will also chew you aliv for your ignorance?

OK Ok kid carry on your egoistic post that no can hurt Iran from East and wet, and by the way IAF didn't cross Pakistani airspace and used stand off glide bombs which achieve nothing but hits some trees and what happened next day, tell me,
And what a deterrence you ave against USA/EU please tell me, i asking you sincerely
And these EMP WARHEADS IS REAL DEAL, google is your friend