SAC FC-31 Stealth Fighter: News & Discussions

[he-man]

Yes, those are key point and they are not revealing anything how to convince the world with those smokey engine. Definitely WS-13 engine is in progress and in late stage but by not revealing anything doesn't help anything.

And another disapointing facts about this zhuhai 2014 airshow is not a single fighter avionics or radar is on display for export. At least an export version of AESA/PESA shall be available for export. But not a single of them.

Year 2014 is a disappointing year for China military advancement. Slow commissioning of major warship like frigate and DDG. Carrier wing not formed yet.

The only top breakthru I can give for China military 2014 will be HJ-12 FnF ATGM.

U can ask russia for irbis-e pesa for j-31
Of course u won't get 2300 t/r elements n036 byelka radar

 

[Beast]

U can ask russia for irbis-e pesa for j-31
Of course u won't get 2300 t/r elements n036 byelka radar

Russia? their electronic is worst than us. We do not lack good radar but lack a good radar for export. Those Chinese engineer havent get ready for a monkey version yet

 

[Akasa]

1522 is a huge amount considering the beam will be over just 80-100 degrees as beyond that the side arrays will do the work.

The similar sized pesa,,irbis e has a peak power of 20 kw with detection for 3m2 at 400 km and .01m2 at 90 km.So this will most probably even surpass that.

It's better to wait until more objective data appears in order to gauge its, but its tri-directional array is certainly interesting.

They just unveiled poliment aesa on gorkshov class frigate.
Regarding awacs,,they will be upgraded with vega premier aesa radars soon,,the problem is not tech but money.


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AESA development in the naval sector is closely related to that of the aviation sector.

In fighter jet radars they are still ahead of china.

And yet they have produced much less models of AESA radars, do not have multiple institutions competing for the design of such a system, has not deployed one single operational airborne equipment that bears this system, and does not seem to have the history of using it either.

 

[帅的一匹]

Russia don't have money, very poor.

 

[cnleio]

@he-man say HELLO to China aircraft AESA radar & J-10B, Indian.

 

[he-man]

And yet they have produced much less models of AESA radars, do not have multiple institutions competing for the design of such a system, has not deployed one single operational airborne equipment that bears this system, and does not seem to have the history of using it either.

They have monetary problems.

But difference in fighter aesa and ship based system is cooling.Russians have much more experience as a result have more examples of fighter aesas ie zhuk ae which is unde testing for 4 years now with its 2 variations fga-29 and 35.

And n036 for pakfa under testing since 2 years.

But recently they have started making kick *** vessels like this

@he-man say HELLO to China aircraft AESA radar & J-10B

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I myself posted these pics sometimes back,,the issue is about j-31 and j-20 radar.
Another thing being thislooks more like a pesa than an aesa due to the iff antennas in between elements.

It's better to wait until more objective data appears in order to gauge its, but its tri-directional array is certainly interesting.

Considering average power of each t/r element to be 10 watts which is pretty standard it will have power of roughly 23 k watt.

Russia don't have money, very poor.

Actually they have to allocate huge amount of money to bombers and submarines too so naturally they don't have enough to make every ship aesa based.Aesas are costly.

 

[Akasa]

They have monetary problems.

But difference in fighter aesa and ship based system is cooling.Russians have much more experience as a result have more examples of fighter aesas ie zhuk ae which is unde testing for 4 years now with its 2 variations fga-29 and 35.

And n036 for pakfa under testing since 2 years.

But recently they have started making kick *** vessels like this
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There is little evidence, if any at all, to suggest who's ahead of who in terms of cooling systems.
Uh, no, the Russians never had more examples of fighters with AESA compared to the Chinese, who will be fielding the J-10B, J-11B, J-15, J-16, J-20, and J-31 with the said systems.

I myself posted these pics sometimes back,,the issue is about j-31 and j-20 radar.
Another thing being thislooks more like a pesa than an aesa due to the iff antennas in between elements.

This is indeed the prototype for the J-10B's PESA radar, which did not make it into service and was replaced by the active phased array radar instead, the diagram of which was posted a few threads back.

 

[he-man]

There is little evidence, if any at all, to suggest who's ahead of who in terms of cooling systems.
Uh, no, the Russians never had more examples of fighters with AESA compared to the Chinese, who will be fielding the J-10B, J-11B, J-15, J-16, J-20, and J-31 with the said systems.

0 proof yet,,not 1 photograph.I am sorry.

This is indeed the prototype for the J-10B's PESA radar, which did not make it into service and was replaced by the active phased array radar instead, the diagram of which was posted a few threads back.

Diagrams don't count.

 

[Akasa]

0 proof yet,,not 1 photograph.I am sorry.

Authoritativeness is not up for a single individual to decide, regardless of photos or lack thereof.

Diagrams don't count.

If a paper from the company that builds the radar "doesn't count", then what does?

 

[cnleio]

I myself posted these pics sometimes back,,the issue is about j-31 and j-20 radar.
Another thing being thislooks more like a pesa than an aesa due to the iff antennas in between elements.

U just waste ur time

 

[he-man]

U just waste ur time

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Stop trolling, unless u have a picture don't quote me again with vague things.

If a paper from the company that builds the radar "doesn't count", then what does?

Its just a paper,,unless u show the picture.

Authoritativeness is not up for a single individual to decide, regardless of photos or lack thereof.

World works on proof.

 

[Akasa]

Stop trolling, unless u have a picture don't quote me again with vague things.

What makes a photo more authoritative than what was released by the company itself?

Its just a paper,,unless u show the picture.

World works on proof.

It's about time you realize that not every facet of proof revolves around photos.

 

[he-man]

It's about time you realize that not every facet of proof revolves around photos.

No it does not but when we talk about photo released by tikhomirov niip that made bars pesa,irbis e pesa too then it lends credibility.

Same with zhuk-ae made by phozotron niir.

U have nothing to quote except vague diagrams.

 

[cnleio]

Stop trolling, unless u have a picture don't quote me again with vague things.

U lack enough military knowledge, stop trolling.

F-22 radar test plane

J-20 radar test plane

 

[Akasa]

No it does not but when we talk about photo released by tikhomirov niip that made bars pesa,irbis e pesa too then it lends credibility.

Same with zhuk-ae made by phozotron niir.

U have nothing to quote except vague diagrams.

Credibility isn't decided by how visually-stimulating it is. Diagrams and the text that goes with it are equally implicit of the existence of such a system as are visual methods.