S-300VM Air Defence System will be good for BAF then new jets

[ramu]

And why would india not be OK with it? Does india intend to attack Bangladesh?

Irrespective of India's intent, India will counter any arms procurement in its neighbourhood politically and militarily.

 

[ramu]

Bangladesh must build a robust defensive military as soon as possible. There are no reasons for India to worry as BD can never be a threat to it. If India has no aggressive designs on BD, then they have nothing to worry about the pruchase of new jets, ships, tanks and submarines by BD as they will only be used in self-defence only.

Due to the poverty levels in BD now, it probably cannot afford to think about purchasing large numbers of weapons till about 2020 anyway.

Any arms procurement should have a valid threat perception associated with it. Blind arms procurement will not be looked at as self defence initiatives. Military analysts could view hi-tech arms in Bangladesh as alignment to one of the superpowers and this will not be taken lightly.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Irrespective of India's intent, India will counter any arms procurement in its neighbourhood politically and militarily.

Did that include F-16s for Pakistan?

 

[ramu]

Did that include F-16s for Pakistan?

Yes. Ask Pakistan and they will give you a detailed account of how difficult it was to get French avionics for JF-17s or for that matter what conditions were imposed by US against F-16s. BTW, Pakistan did not manage to get the French avionics even today.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Yes. Ask Pakistan and they will give you a detailed account of how difficult it was to get French avionics for JF-17s or for that matter what conditions were imposed by US against F-16s. BTW, Pakistan did not manage to get the French avionics even today.

Ever heard of the term "sovereignty"?

Well, the result is the PAF still flies the F-16 and currently has more orders for them. I guess Indian "pressure" don't always work

Sorry, Bangladesh will go by its own defense procurement independently. Even NATO countries go about their defense procurement themselves, without hindrance from neighbors. If the J-11 for example is up for sale from China in the future, I am pretty sure BAF will buy it to replace its aging F-7s and A-5s in the future. Can India do anything about that?

The point is not getting into an arms race with India or anyone, the point is sufficient defense. Having a secured airspace is a strategic imperative for every sovereign nation in existence. Outsourcing national security is never a good idea, and it in fact compromises the nation's security and sovereignty.

Although, I do not agree that Bangladesh should procure such a powerful system: S-300VM, its too powerful and unnecessary. Plus, the Russians won't allow it.

Even Canada has it's own military. Do you think that USA would ever invade Canada? Of-course not. But, Canada still has a sufficient military as a part to maintain its sovereignty.

I have made this point clear earlier in my previous posts.

Some Indians here who say Bangladesh doesn't even need a military is one of the most senseless things I have heard in PDF. Seriously. Just because you helped us in the Liberation War don't mean that you can make us do whatever you want. Also, pressuring Bangladesh would make us more biased toward China, who don't give a damn about Indian "pressure".

Also, this biting and back-stabbing culture coupled with India's monopolistic attitude that is so apparent in SAARC is destroying the credibility of the organization.

Please, respect Bangladesh's sovereignty. We worked very hard for it!

 

[UKBengali]

Any arms procurement should have a valid threat perception associated with it. Blind arms procurement will not be looked at as self defence initiatives. Military analysts could view hi-tech arms in Bangladesh as alignment to one of the superpowers and this will not be taken lightly.

Well BD is an independent country and it will decide what the threat perception is. The only reason why the country does not have a much more powerful conventional military is due to the lack of funds in the past. Now with an economy over 100 billion dollars and one that is growing at 7% every year, much more funds are availble in order to buy arms than in the past. While for now it cannot buy too much weapons due to still to many absolute poor in the country, within a decade this will change and the country will build up a robust conventional military that even a country like India will be wary of attacking, but that time may not come till 2030. Like I have already stated, BD poses, and will pose absolutely no threat to India but it must develop the capability to inflict massive losses on India if India one day decides to attack BD.

 

[TopCat]

Irrespective of India's intent, India will counter any arms procurement in its neighbourhood politically and militarily.

heehehehe ... China will show you the dck for that.... BD does not need to go anywhere if only China provides what it has to counter Indian hegemony.. LOL

 

[eastwatch]

Yes. Ask Pakistan and they will give you a detailed account of how difficult it was to get French avionics for JF-17s or for that matter what conditions were imposed by US against F-16s. BTW, Pakistan did not manage to get the French avionics even today.

Indians think BD is alone in this planet. But, make a reality check, you will see India is the only lone country without a friend nearby. For our defense we have every right to procure any weapons we need. China and other countries are helping us to build our military. Can India stop it? BD has procured more arms during the last two and a half years than it did during the previous 5 years.

We are not really after F-16 or F-18, but are after the best of Chinese planes such as J-10Bs. Here, India cannot influence China to do otherwise. China understands truly the geographical importance of BD vis-a-vis its issue with India about Arunachal, and therefore is a willing partner to build up our military. We want to get rid of a hegemonist India.

 

[damiendehorn]

Any arms procurement should have a valid threat perception associated with it. Blind arms procurement will not be looked at as self defence initiatives. Military analysts could view hi-tech arms in Bangladesh as alignment to one of the superpowers and this will not be taken lightly.

"Alignment to one of the superpowers and will not be taken lightly"? Yea, sure and exactly what you gonna do? Bangladesh is a sovereign state, india can't do anything about it, stop fooling yourself, we arn't sikim.

 

[asad71]

1.It ought to be understood the present borders of SA were drawn up by the UK Sectt for India in collusion with the Political Deptt (Intel) to serve their imperial interests. These boundaries took scant regard for the boundaries that existed before the English conquests. Geopolitical realities, economic justification and self reliance were considered only to be flouted.

2. Great land masses like SA, Europe, China and others are constantly moving from centripetal mode to centrifugal mode and vice verse. BD needs to be prepared for this inevitability with a population that is prepared, an economy that is ready and a mily that is alert and steady.

3. No, we ain't no Sikkim, nor should anyone dream of a Hyderabad Police Action walk over here. We are a proud sovereign country.

 

[bdslph]

for low level air defence chinese one are best for us and then for medium and long range EU and Russian ones

i am quite sure the Russian will not sell the latest one to us even if we want to buy it

 

[SR 71 Blackbird]

S 300 will cost billions if you want to buy them in substantial numbers.

 

[SR 71 Blackbird]

Bettet buy a squadron of F-16's

 

[Galaxy]

Well BD is an independent country and it will decide what the threat perception is. The only reason why the country does not have a much more powerful conventional military is due to the lack of funds in the past. Now with an economy over 100 billion dollars and one that is growing at 7% every year, much more funds are availble in order to buy arms than in the past. While for now it cannot buy too much weapons due to still to many absolute poor in the country, within a decade this will change and the country will build up a robust conventional military that even a country like India will be wary of attacking, but that time may not come till 2030. Like I have already stated, BD poses, and will pose absolutely no threat to India but it must develop the capability to inflict massive losses on India if India one day decides to attack BD.

Don't give so much importance without any reason. BD is not strategically important for India. If we wanted, 1971 was not bad time as BD didn't even had an army. Today, it can be done in 1 day. Don't forget what China said in 1971? If brahmputra river will be diverted, Then check what china does and India. What India will get from BD ? Highest Population Per hectare with 75% Unskilled and Illegal immigrants multi-fold ?

Yes, I agree BD has right to defend and it should develop to protect itself from any Nation. India has 10 Such bases completely operational surrounding BD (Reason is different not BD). India has no Neighbour Friend ?. India is not a person who develop relations with people. It's Government and talks with Government only. Ask your PM what she says ? Even if BNP comes in Power, See what she says on Day 1. Check What Bhutan, Nepal, SL country chief says. Pakistan is and will always be like this. India-China trade is around 100 Billion $ with some border issue. Tell me 1 country which has good relations with every neighbours. China ?? Check what Japan, Vietnam, Philippines, SK, India, and many more thinks ... Pakistan ?? Then Both - Afghanistan, India. 90% countries supports India including U.K., U.S.A, France, Russia, Japan, Australia, Germany, Canada, Brazil and even likes of Israel and Palestine/Iran all. Ask any Islamic countries including U.A.E., Palestine, Indonesia. All Supports India except Pakistan. India priority is not only 2-3 neighbours but to make good relations with 100's of countries due to large economy.

 

[eastwatch]

S 300 will cost billions if you want to buy them in substantial numbers.

No, no, the title of this thread is misleading. We will certainly not buy S=300M air defence system. Our present approach is defense only and with more than 2000km projection S-300 is an offensive weapon.