I am allowed to use emojis if I find something laughable. There is no rule stating I cant use emojis prematurely. Just like how people are allowed to negative rate on things that dont agree with their agenda.
You can give me whatever test data you want, the fact is they have never been tested with Iranian technology. Probably either dated Soviet or old American tech.
The bottom line is that whatever the configuration, which I reject as a valid excuse, Patriots failed in defending Saudi Arabia against Iranian drones. I even gave you evidence whereby Patriot missiles are not designed for drones and low level projectiles, and other members had to remind you of this...yet you continue down this path of configurations.
What use is a patriot if its radars arent up to scratch? You're proving my point.
You basically reposted the article I gave you, and it even says in the headline that they are insufficient against Iranian power. Here's what doesnt make sense, is that patriots have been in Iraq since 2003 and were responsible for friend fire:
The defensive system, by lethally targeting allied jets, has raised concerns about its readiness.
www.latimes.com
There is also no evidence that they left Iraq either so I reject the propaganda that they came to the rescue after Ain al Assad.
1. You are allowed to use emojis (absolutely) but apply them in sensible ways. It is NOT OK to habitually laugh at posts of a particular member to show your disagreement because chances are that you might be wrong. Debate your points and see how it goes. You might correct a point or two but your other points might be proven wrong.
And when a Mod tells you to stop, you stop. Mods understand Forum Rules well enough.
2. You think Americans cannot conduct realistic tests? What is so special about Iranian technology that Americans cannot replicate in house to stress-test their systems? US is globally respected for its technological prowess - they teach others how to do it.
3. Saudi Patriot configuration(s) are equipped with older AN/MPG-53 radar system. The Patriot battery stationed near Abqaiq oil refinery was equipped with a single AN/MPG-53 radar system when Iran attacked said refinery in 2019; the radar system's Line-Of-Sight (120 degree) was easily bypassed because it was pointed towards Yemen. I pointed out this problem back then:
Rouhani Says Houthis Were Able to Hit Saudi Oil Facilities Due to US Missile Defence Weakness 17:17 24.09.2019(updated 17:50 24.09.2019) Last week, media reports said that the US had redeployed the USS Nitze destroyer to the northeast coast of Saudi Arabia in a bid to "plug the gap" in Saudi...
defence.pk
How to address this problem?
A single Patriot missile defense radar can’t watch both high and low at once – but the whole point of IBCS is to connect previously incompatible systems, in this case Patriot and Sentinel, and let any command post on the network get high-fidelity data from different kinds of radars in different locations.
Thursday's near-simultaneous intercept of a cruise missile and a ballistic missile was far from the hardest thing the IBCS battalion has done.
breakingdefense.com
US introduced much better AN/MPG-64 Sentinel radar system for the Patriot system to detect and track new types of threats including drones and cruise missiles, and also programmed the Patriot system to take cues from multiple sophisticated radar systems in the state-of-the-art IBCS Patriot configuration to defeat drones and cruise missiles. This technology was tested in-house.
Further evidence:
Saudi do
NOT have IBCS Patriot configuration.
I have repeatedly pointed out that Saudi have work to do. But they are busy antagonizing US. Iran and Houthi see opportunity in this rift.
4. So you reject FACTS because they do not fit your narrative? Very constructive. No wonder you are putting off other members left, right and center.
Exactly.
NATO have remarkable surveillance capabilities. They can see a lot of activity in real time.
They do not need to "investigate" as stated in some articles. They know what happened.
Now the point is about doing something about it or chicken out. Now the ball is in your court.
Your side talks about BALLS. Time for your side to show them.
Nobody will play with nuclear button too soon. This is talk of COWARDS.
Ukraine have shown more BALLS than many countries put together in this war. They have conducted operations inside Russian mainland. Zelenskyy put many braggers to SHAME.
Let us see how mighty Poland is now. Easy to TALK SHIT about Russia from a distance when your country wasn't burning.
