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Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2
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jhungary
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Did these people even know how Radar work??
Yeah but you said people died over such decisions. What do you tell their kids? Oh you dad died because calling in an artillery shell that costs $2,000 was too much, people would laugh at me, better to get your dad killed, sorry kid.
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Lavrov is a loyal dog. he will not stage a coup d’etat. He is only good as Putin’s dumb propaganda speaker. His life is not in danger. If anything than someone from the army or FSB.Expect some "unfortunate" window falling or Dugin offered tea in the coming weeks.
Russia's Lavrov taken to hospital upon arrival at G20 summit
Russia denies Lavrov was taken to hospital at G20 summit – DW – 11/14/2022
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov reportedly suffered heart problems after arriving for the G20 summit in Bali, Indonesian authorities have said.www.dw.com
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look, you don't call artillery on every enemy hard point in war, first of all, that would not have enough artillery round to go around I mean, a single platoon has 42 soldiers, a Battalion have 3 company, each with 4 platoons, you are talking about hundred, if not thousands of targets in a Battalion size line. And that's just one line, one battalion. You have 1 artillery, 16 guns, serving 5 Battalions in any given AO. If everyone starts sending coordinate of MG point, hard point, firing point and ask Arty to take care of it, your fire mission probably will come in 4 days after you call it.
You don't call in enemy MG hidden in building, bushes or vegetation, you maneuver your troop to go after it, flank it, attack it from the front if you have to, or go cover to cover, that's your job, if you meet serious concentration like a battalion size enemy massing, or have a priority target, then yes, you call in your support. Otherwise they will ask you why are they paying you for??
As for what would I tell their kid? Do I tell the kid the Army can't fix the Bradley rotation we should be riding on because they are unwilling to ship just 4 Bradley back to closest US base to fix it, so they use us as infantry and that's why your dad got killed? People died in battlefield, sometime because of some heroic reason, sometime because of stupidity, and sometime because of other people's stupidity. You tell them what they want to hear, not how he died. You tell the kid your dad is a hero and he save other people live. That's what you tell him.
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That's not Lavrov taken to Hospital. That's Russian starting their "Special Hospital Operation" in Indonesia......Or may just be Lavrov doing "Special Operation" in Hospital...Expect some "unfortunate" window falling or Dugin offered tea in the coming weeks.
Russia's Lavrov taken to hospital upon arrival at G20 summit
Russia denies Lavrov was taken to hospital at G20 summit – DW – 11/14/2022
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov reportedly suffered heart problems after arriving for the G20 summit in Bali, Indonesian authorities have said.
Looking at this war, I think having troops on the front line, holding some line will be as obsolete as an infantry charge of WW1. It appears that with drones, having anyone near a front line is like an almost certain death sentence from these drones. The only way anyone will be able to go near a front line in the future seems to be on a very fast armoured truck and advancing. Thats what it looks like to me.
But out of all the units you mentioned above, how many would have contact with the enemy at the same time in places like Afghanistan? There is not enough arty only if lots of them have contact at the same time.
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That's what people said since a clean air war had won us the First Gulf war. Infantries are obsolete. 30 years on, we still see whoever have a bigger Infantry Unit on the battlefield sway that battlefield.
There are something drone and airpower just cannot do. And every weapon platform has their limitation. You really can't replace one platform with another.
You would be amazing how many contacts I had in an op. Once I was boxed in by a MG to the front, and getting flanked by insurgent on my flank, we have marked 50 targets just on our flank. Also, you sometime just don't have time to wait for Arty. By the time the rounds over, you would probably be dead.
Artillery is not god, if your unit is maneuverable, they can't change their elevation faster than you advance, that's why Dick Winter said to Lieutenant Norman in the battle of Foy in Band of Brother, "you charge in before their artillery can zero on you". That did happen by the way.
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LOL you keep accusing Vietnam & Cambodia with fudging their numbers but are you willing to bet that China didn't do the same? For all we know the numbers from China can't be trusted either. Until China reach zero covid like Vietnam & Cambodia. You guys are throwing rock in a glass house.
More country hate China mate. Ask Australia, Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia, India, EU countries, US. Even South Korea slowly turning anti China.
There's a reason AUKUS is created and why Australia & Japan now have a defense pact. While country surrounding China are uparming themselves.
Ah yes the Russian trully are a superpower.
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This is what real leader looks like btw.
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Rusky wanting to nuke Washington.
How dare she, isn't that a deer carcas she is holding? Who gave her that? very ungrateful.
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Congrats, Australia has the half of population than Spain.
Now (this year) gasoline is cheaper than diesel in whole west europe and that never happened before.
The reason is the lack of crude oil is substituted with shale oil, that is a less quality oil, less adequate to produce diesel. And the effects of that change it started to happen this year.
World is running out of cheap fossil energy, and since one decade ago it was started to get energy through shale oil, fracking and so on.
If you think that thing is a triviality and it wont have real effects in future wars and conflicts, well, what more I can say?
Diesel prices around the world, 26-Aug-2024 | GlobalPetrolPrices.com
Diesel prices by country using official data sources.
Gasoline prices around the world, 12-Aug-2024 | GlobalPetrolPrices.com
Gas prices by country using official data sources.
Anyway, that web says that diesel is more expensive than gasoline in Australia right now (0.22 USD more expensive per litre, like here).
