RED ALERT - US/ISRAEL COULD ATTACK IRAN WITH IN TWO WEEKS

[silko]

abii, dude miss you. why dont you debate here in the forum that much anymore!

 

[Abii]

abii, dude miss you. why dont you debate here in the forum that much anymore!

b/c I get banned once a month lmao

I think I'm the record holder here

 

[wind]

US would love to attack Iran but they are currently deprived of resources due to the reasons well known.

Exaggeration.

 

[PteX]

most retarded comment in the history of the internet

Iran has more than 50 nuclear installations, most underground, Saddam had Osiraq in the middle of the country with a welcome sign on top.
Iran has better anti air
the distance is at least double (triple when you calculate the distance b/in different installations in the country itself)
Israel was able to go over desert which allowed it to stay near the ground. The Western borders of Iran have the highest mountains in the region so good luck with that.
No country in the region will allow them access

And now the most impt part:

1) Israel needs to send its entire airforce, most of which would be support planes.

2) They would need to refuel at least 3 times. Each time they do this they would be in extreme danger of being shot down.

3) 7 planes near the ground won't be detected. Hundreds of jets, some of which will be giant fuel planes will be detected high in the air.

4) They would have to hit every damn installation, most of which are deep under ground, or the operation will be a failure.

5) They would also have to hit the ballistic missile silos etc... so that Iran won't retaliate with thousands of MRBM's

6) Iran already has enough enriched uranium for 2+ bombs. An attack would make Iran pull out of the NPT and then Iran could have a nuke in 6 months.

7) The Bushehr nuclear reactor is already loaded with fuel and working full time. A hit on that would kill half of Kuwaiti population.

So many retards on this web site

While all your points are valid but there can really be no doubt about the Israeli determination against Iran getting nukes.

In theory, the air force isn`t the only way to neutralize the threat, and yes many Arab nations would give assistance in order to stop Iran. Sunni`s hate Iran more than even Israel, especially the rich monarchies.

Nothing is impossible, the price is blood and money, as always. I`d rather not see such a war but if it`s them or us, it`s gonna be us.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Heheh Iran threads are the magnets that draw the Israelis sadly no Iranians members here to start the flame war

 

[PteX]

Heheh Iran threads are the magnets that draw the Israelis sadly no Iranians members here to start the flame war

4 Iranians are here, as far as i know. 3 of them want to see this regime fall, the other is a cute lad who keeps promising the demise of the US and Israel.
This is a conversation NC, something grown ups have.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

4 Iranians are here, as far as i know. 3 of them want to see this regime fall, the other is a cute lad who keeps promising the demise of the US and Israel.
This is a conversation NC, something grown ups have.

3 want the regime to fall 3 however think they can defeat Israel and the USA however it's always nice to see the Israeli-Iranian Flame war hehe I caught it on another forum a few weeks ago.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Mods should ban these threads I've seen about at least 10-20 threads saying the US/Israel were going to strike Iran getting old really....... when Israel finally attacks Iran let me on that day. PK Defence is slow I'm bored think I'm going to pirate a good movie anyway, so long for now.

 

[500]

Heheh Iran threads are the magnets that draw the Israelis sadly no Iranians members here to start the flame war

You are a sad clown. Over 20 people from different countries commented here, among them only 1 Israeli (although topic is about alleged Israeli attack). Whats your obession with Israel? Cant forget your dad fled from Israelis leaving his boots?

 

[NeutralCitizen]

You are a sad clown. Over 20 people from different countries commented here, among them only 1 Israeli (although topic is about alleged Israeli attack). Whats your obession with Israel? Cant forget your dad fled from Israelis leaving his boots?

Heheh I find Israelis funny, my obsession is I want to see more Israeli-Iranian flame wars like the one Persian god king posted hahah, now 500 I think we shouldn't go into personal attacks hahahah.

 

[waraich66]

In case of attack on Iran ,China and Russia will support Iran .

US Arm industries and Banks need a war to keep the economic wheel moving ?

WW1
WW2
VIETNAM WAR
IRAN IRAQ WAR
IRAQ WAR
PAK - AFGHAN WAR
LYBIAN WAR
IRAN WAR

 

[Al Bhatti]

By Tariq A. Al Maeena, Special to Gulf News
October 16, 2011

When cooler heads should prevail

In the war of words between America and Iran over a plot to assassinate Saudi envoy, many wonder where the truth lies

In a scenario that could not have been better scripted by Hollywood, the US Justice Department last week revealed that it had uncovered an alleged plot sponsored by Iranian elements to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to Washington and blow up the Saudi and Israeli embassies in a series of terror attacks.

In the following days, the alleged bombing plots of the embassies played second fiddle to the assassination attempt. Two people, including a member of Iran’s special operations unit known as the Quds Force, were charged in the New York federal court. US Attorney General Eric Holder stated that his country holds Iran accountable. Holder said the bomb plot was a flagrant violation of US and international law. “We will not let other countries use our soil as their battleground,” Preet Bharara, the US attorney in Manhattan, said at a news conference in Washington with Holder and FBI Director Robert Mueller.

President Barack Obama charged that the man accused of plotting to assassinate Saudi Arabia’s US ambassador had ‘direct links’ to Iran’s government, which must be held accountable for the plot. An ‘individual of Iranian-American descent was involved’ and ‘had direct links, was paid by, and directed by individuals in the Iranian government, Obama said. ‘This is part of a pattern of dangerous and reckless behaviour by the Iranian government. There are individuals in the Iranian government who are aware of this plot,” Obama said at a joint White House news conference with South Korean president Lee Myung-bak, who is on an official visit to Washington.
When questioned if there was evidence that Iran’s top leaders knew of the plan, Obama said that ‘even if, at the highest levels, there was not detailed operational knowledge, there has to be accountability with respect to anybody in the Iranian government engaging in this kind of activity.’

Following the disclosure of the alleged plot, Saudi Arabia understandably condemned the ‘sinful and abhorrent’ attempt to assassinate its ambassador to Washington. “The Saudi government appreciates the efforts exerted by the American authorities … in uncovering the plot,” the Saudi Press Agency quoted an official source as saying.

Former chief of Saudi intelligence Prince Turki Al Faisal added in an oil conference taking place in London last week that there was overwhelming evidence that Iran was behind a plot to kill the Saudi ambassador to Washington and must be held accountable.

"The burden of proof is overwhelming ... and clearly shows official Iranian responsibility for this. Somebody in Iran will have to pay the price, whatever the level of these persons is,” Prince Turki said. The prince, who had previously served as Saudi ambassador to the US and Britain, said the alleged plan to kill the kingdom’s current ambassador in Washington was “so criminal, it’s beyond description.”

The secretary-general of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) also last week condemned the alleged Iran plot, stating that such actions would severely harm relations. In an official statement, Abdul Latif Al Zayani said he considered the plot a ‘flagrant violation’ of all laws and international agreements. He suggested that Iran would do better to rebuild its current relationships with the GCC nations.

Iran’s response was to categorically reject the allegation, which it termed as an ‘evil plot.’ In their rebuttal, Ali Akbar Javanfekr, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s press adviser denied US allegations that the Islamic republic was involved in a plot to kill the Saudi envoy to Washington in a major terror attack. “This is a prefabricated scenario to turn public attention away from domestic problems within the US” he flatly stated.

Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast added, “Iran strongly denies the untrue and baseless allegations over a plan to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to Washington. Our relationship with Riyadh is based on mutual respect and such baseless claims will not succeed. It is a comedy show fabricated by America.”

Brigadier General Hussain Salami, commander of Iran’s elite Revolutionary Guards also denied any involvement of his force in the assassination plot. “America’s claims about the involvement of some members of the Guards in the fabricated terror plot targeting a diplomat from an Arab country in Washington are ridiculous and baseless,” he was quoted as saying on the state television website.

With these war of words coupled with allegations and counter allegations flying around, many wonder where the truth indeed lies. There still remain sceptics who were once led to believe that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, a scenario engineered so skilfully that it later became known as the weapon of mass deception. Or the 1998 bombing of a factory in Khartoum which Washington claimed as being used by Al Qaida to manufacture chemical weapons but later proven to be involved in nothing more sinister than the manufacture of aspirin. Or the countless lies engineered by the CIA that were eventually exposed as tools of deception?

Then there are some who ask just exactly who would be the main beneficiaries of such a plot; The Saudis? The Iranians? Or would it be the Israelis, who have long been itching to strike Iran? In a region that does not need further bloodshed and conflict, it would be wise to take a deep breath and hope cooler heads prevail on all fronts.

Tariq A. Al Maeena is a Saudi socio-political commentator. He lives in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.

gulfnews : When cooler heads should prevail

 

[waraich66]

US arms industry requires constant war
August 27, 2011 12:00 pm
Re: "China is entitled to its aircraft carrier", Letters, August 24.

As usual the US is rattling its sword as soon as anyone in the world shows signs of expanding its military. China has bought an old rusty carrier hull from the Ukraine and will spend the next 10 years fitting and testing it for possible future carrier projects of its own. It is true that China is overly aggressive in its various claims in the Pacific; soon it will probably claim Japan belongs to China too. But so far they have not attacked anyone. What is more worrying is while about 36 per cent of China's population lives on less than US$2 (Bt60) a day, China is investing heavily in Africa, Southeast Asia and the Middle East.

Who should the world really be afraid of? Of the world's total military expenditure for 2010 ($1,630 billion) 42.6 per cent was spent by the US. Dwarfed by US spending, China comes in second at 7.3 per cent of world spending after only in recent years starting to upgrade its military. After China come the UK, France and Russia at about 3.6 per cent each of world military spending. The US was engaged in two wars at the same time for the last 10 years, and now it is rattling the sword in front of North Korea and Iran.

The arms industry in the US has fed the politicians and military in Washington since the mega military projects of WWII and the Cold War. It has become a money machine that is so big it cannot be dismantled, and the whole system depends on some war being staged somewhere at all times. Take a look at the ownership of the arms industry in the US, Dick Cheney to mention one.

Can the US economy survive with an idle military? [General Douglas] MacArthur said once, after WWII, that the military spending of the US in peacetime was completely disproportionate to its needs.

 

[Abii]

While all your points are valid but there can really be no doubt about the Israeli determination against Iran getting nukes.

In theory, the air force isn`t the only way to neutralize the threat, and yes many Arab nations would give assistance in order to stop Iran. Sunni`s hate Iran more than even Israel, especially the rich monarchies.

Nothing is impossible, the price is blood and money, as always. I`d rather not see such a war but if it`s them or us, it`s gonna be us.

there is also no doubt in my desire to bang the model in my econ class. Your logic is top notch

/sarcasm

in theory you can't nuke 50 different installations. No damn book is insane enough to publish such a theory. The so called "theory" that you cooked up in that brain of yours is called a fairy tale.

 

[PteX]

there is also no doubt in my desire to bang the model in my econ class. Your logic is top notch

/sarcasm

in theory you can't nuke 50 different installations. No damn book is insane enough to publish such a theory. The so called "theory" that you cooked up in that brain of yours is called a fairy tale.

This is all theory, Abii.
Who said anything about nuking anything? Even if this was considered, do you know what a Nuclear EMP does? The country would be sent into the middle ages and the Iranian population would do worse than anything Israel ever could.

Besides Abii, you can`t bang models either way, unless you are not a devout Muslim.