Ready to strike even inside enemy's territory: Army Chief

[Zabaniyah]

Do you have any doubt in the capability of advanced nuclear scientists to develop invisible nukes that cannot traced by anyone even sometimes there are doubt among the highly known BAEC, if they are there or not.

Bangladesh can care less about nukes

My high school calculus tutor used to be a BAEC scientist

 

[Dash]

Bangladesh can care less about nukes

My high school calculus tutor used to be a BAEC scientist

Even "peons" and "house keeping" in BAEC are called scientists in ur part of the world, coz they have only one catagory to be a peon or house keeper if you are BD refugee scientist.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Even "peons" and "house keeping" in BAEC are called scientists, coz they have only one catagory to be a peon or house keeper if you are BD refugee scientist.

Well, I have known some brilliant people from BAEC like my tutor. He retired long ago before tutoring and lives in a bungalow with his family.

Unfortunately, much of what you say are partly true.

 

[Dash]

Unfortunately, much of what you say are partly true.

Depends on the level of brilliance, like your tutor has.... again so.....you decide

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

The Indian Army keeps whining about the threat of a "two-front war".

And then, the Indian Army comes out with ridiculous comments like this. Which will invite that war.

Self-fulfilling prophecy.

 

[U-571]

thats the reply im gonna show

 

[Dash]

The Indian Army keeps whining about the threat of a "two-front war".

And then, the Indian Army comes out with ridiculous comments like this. Which will invite that war.

Self-fulfilling prophecy.

Hi CD -

This must have been an answer to a question by media, not a press release by Indian army chief. You need to differentiate whats official and whats not.
On top of it he is the army chief, his job is to assure the nation.

These comments are baseless, Pakistan army wants to live on Indian prophecies, we feed them. simple-)

 

[DV RULES]

Jalandhar Asserting that the Army is more than ready to give befitting reply to any external threat, Army Chief General V K Singh today said the force is prepared to strike inside enemy's territories.

Army Chief was speaking at the closing day of the 4-day exercise, called 'Pine Prahar', of the Indian Army's Vajra Corps, better known as "Defenders of Punjab", in Ludhianana district at the bank of Satluj river.

"The Army is always ready to give befitting reply to any aggressor. If needed we can also penetrate and strike inside the enemy's territory," Singh claimed.

The exercise, which began Monday, envisages swift mobilisation of units and formations, and offensive manoeuvres.

Over 12,000 troops are taking part in the exercise. India's oldest Corps, Vajra has a history spanning over half-a-century.

Like US, we are also capable to launch operations inside any territory, the Army Chief said.

The chief also spoke to the Army personnel and asked them to be ready to face any challenge, an Army release said.

Ready to strike even inside enemys territory Army chief

US is lucky enough that he situated far far away from Afghanistan & Pakistan, otherwise he dispersed in more parts than USSR. If India jumping it means he slowly going toward the point from where no return.

 

[harpoon]

]US is lucky enough that he situated far far away from Afghanistan & Pakistan, otherwise he dispersed in more parts than USSR.[/B] If India jumping it means he slowly going toward the point from where no return.

Joke of the day

US has assets in AF, Bahrain & Qatar well within the range of PAF. With a little effort you can even attack the island base of Diego Garcia. Why are you not doing it? Your military will carp in their pants before doing anything of this sorts.

 

[DV RULES]

Joke of the day

US has assets in AF, Bahrain & Qatar well within the range of PAF. With a little effort you can even attack the island base of Diego Garcia. Why are you not doing it? Your military will carp in their pants before doing anything of this sorts.

get some knowledge. it seems you know nothing about military history & current regional scenario.

 

[Kompromat]

Barking dog seldom bites !!

 

[SQ8]

I pray for Mr Manmohan Singh everyday now.. that man is the last hope for peace in the region. The rest are fueled by thirst for blood and their egos.

 

[harpoon]

get some knowledge. it seems you know nothing about military history & current regional scenario.

Then keep your wet dreams of breaking US to yourself.

 

[asad71]

Great Bangladesh fear chota India .... dont worry we have a very good delivery system.. which you will see ...and no missiles are perfect.. even US till date has got some misfires.... we have self destruction system which will abort in case it veers into your country..


Hey your monitoring how our great Dr APJ smuggled ... ho man... you know what US never complained because they knew he didnt...

South Asia Investor Review
Tuesday, April 27, 2010
India-Pakistan Missile Gap, India's "Indigenous" Tech
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A Times of India report last year claimed that "Pakistan has surged well ahead of India in the missile arena". It also lamented that "the only nuclear-capable ballistic missile in India's arsenal which can be said to be 100% operational as of now is the short-range Prithvi missile".

Along with raising the alarm, the Indian report offered the usual excuse for the alleged missile gap by boasting that "unlike Pakistan, our program is indigenous".

Let's explore the reality of the "indigenous" claim repeated ad infintum by Indian government and New Delhi's defense establishment.

US-European Origins of Indian Missile Program:

APJ Abul Kalam is credited with designing India's first satellite launcher SLV3. Its design is virtually identical to the American Scout rocket used in the 1960s. According to the details published in the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, Abul Kalam spent four months in training in the United States in 1963-1964. He visited NASA's Langley Research Center in Virginia, where the U.S. Scout rocket was conceived, and the Wallops Island Flight Center on the Virginia coast, where the Scout was being flown. Soon after Abul Kalam's visit, India requested and received detailed technical reports on the Scout's design, which was unclassified.



US Scout and India's SLV3 are both 23 meters long, use four similar solid-fuel stages and "open loop" guidance, and lift a 40-kilogram payload into low earth orbit. The SLV's 30-foot first stage later became the first stage of the Agni.

The United States was followed by others. Between 1963 and 1975, more than 350 U.S., French, Soviet, and British sounding rockets were launched from India's Thumba Range, which the United States helped design. Thumba's first group of Indian engineers had learned rocket launching and range operation in the United States.

India's other missile, the "Prithvi" (earth), which uses a liquid-propelled motor to carry a one-ton payload 150 miles, resembles the widely sold Soviet Scud-B. Indian sources say that the Agni's second stage is a shortened version of the Prithvi, according to Gary Milhollin of the Wisconsin Project.

France also launched sounding rockets from India, and in the late 1960s allowed India to begin building "Centaure" sounding rockets under license from Sud Aviation.

The aid of the United States and France, however, was quickly surpassed by substantial West German help in the 1970s and 1980s. Germany assisted India in three key missile technologies: guidance, rocket testing, and the use of composite materials. All were supposed to be for the space program, but all were also used for military missiles.

The cryogenic stage used in a recent failed satellite launch by India was a copy of the Russian cryogenic rocket engine and the cryogenic technology transferred to India in the 1990s. According to Non-proliferation review of 1997, it has emerged that Russia continued transferring rocket engine technology to India in 1993 after its agreements with the United States stop such transfer under MTCR. This reportedly resulted in the completion of 60 to 80 percent of the transfers to India.

North American Origins of India's Nuclear Bomb:

India's nuclear program would not have advanced without a lot of help from Canadians that resulted in Indian copies of Canadian reactors to produce plutonium for its nuclear bombs.

India conducted its first atomic bomb test in 1974. Indians used 40 MW Canadian Cirus reactor and U.S. heavy water both imported under guarantees of peaceful use and used them openly to make plutonium for its 1974 nuclear blast.

In 1972, Canadian-built 100 MWe Rajasthan-1 nuclear power reactor became operational, serving as the model for later unsafeguarded reactors. Another Rajasthan unit started operating in 1980 and two units in 2000. In 1983, India's 170 MW Madras-1, a copy of Canadian Rajhastan-1 reactor, became operational. A second Madras unit followed in 1985. According to the Risk Report Volume 11 Number 6 (November-December 2005), the heavy water and other advanced materials and equipment for these plants were smuggled to India from a number of countries, including the USSR, China and Norway. Some of the firms, such as West German firm Degussa, were caught and fined by the United States for re-exporting to India 95 kg of U.S.-origin beryllium, usable as a neutron reflector in fission bombs.

In May 1998, India conducted two rounds of nuclear weapon tests. Last year, the media reports indicated that Kasturiranga Santhanam, the coordinator of India's 1998 nuclear tests, went public with allegations that India's Pokhran II test of a thermonuclear bomb in 1998 was actually a fizzle. The device, designed to generate 45 kilotons, yielded an explosion equivalent to only 15 to 20 kilotons of TNT.

Heavy Dependence on Imports:

India is overwhelmingly dependent on foreign imports, mainly Russian and Israeli, for about 70 per cent of its defense requirement, especially for critical military products and high-end defense technology, according to an Indian defense analyst Dinesh Kumar. Kumar adds that "India’s defense ministry officially admits to attaining only 30 to 35 per cent s elf-reliance capability for its defense requirement. But even this figure is suspect given that India’s self-reliance mostly accrues from transfer of technology, license production and foreign consultancy despite considerable investment in time and money".

On the same theme, Russian newspaper Kommersant reported that "India has had little success with military equipment production, and has had problems producing Russian Su-30MKI fighter jets and T-90S tanks, English Hawk training jets and French Scorpene submarines."

On India's perennial dependence on imports, here's how blogger Vijainder Thakur sees India's loose meaning of "indigenous" Smerch and other imports:

"The Russians will come here set up the plant for us and supply the critical manufacturing machinery. Indian labor and technical management will run the plant which will simply assemble the system. Critical components and the solid propellant rocket motor fuel will still come from Perm Powder Mill. However, bureaucrats in New Delhi and the nation as a whole will be happy. The Smerch system will be proudly paraded on Rajpath every republic day as an indigenous weapon system.

A decade or so down the line, Smerch will get outdated and India will negotiate a new deal with Russia for the license production of a new multiple rocket system for the Indian Army.

China will by then have developed its own follow up system besides having used the solid propellant motors to develop other weapon systems and assist its space research program."

India does export some armaments but its modest record of producing and exporting weapon systems is evident from the fact that India’s defense annual exports averaged only US$ 88 million between 2006-07 and 2008-09. By contrast, Pakistan exported $300 million worth of military hardware and munitions last year.

Summary:

There is plenty of evidence and documentation from sources such as the Wisconsin Project to show that the Indian missiles and bombs are no more indigenous than Pakistan's. The fact is that neither India nor Pakistan were first to split the atom, or to develop modern rocket science. The Industrial Revolution didn't exactly start in India or Pakistan or even in Asia; it began in Europe and the rest of the world learned from it, even copied it.

The differences between India and Pakistan in terms of the technology know-how and the knowledge base are often highly exaggerated to portray India as "technology power house" and Pakistan as a backwater. Some of these analyses by Indian Brahman pundits and commentators have racial and religious overtones implying that somehow Brahmin or Hindu minds are superior to those of the people of other religions or castes in South Asia.


These analysts have fed what George Perkovich described in his book "India's Nuclear Bomb" on page 410 as "general Indian contempt for Pakistan's technical capabilities" and may cause serious miscalculations by the Indian security establishment about Pakistan's defense capabilities. Indian chauvinistic analyses have been put in perspective by another piece in Newsday (Friday, May 15, 1998; Page A5: "India Errs Nuclear Power Isn't Real Power"), in which George Perkovich talked about the rise in India of a radicalized, ultra-nationalistic BJP for the "glory of the Hindu race and rashtra (nation)". Perkovich added that "the Bharatiya Janata Party, has long felt that nuclear weapons offer a quicker ride to the top. Like atavistic nationalists elsewhere, they believe that pure explosive power will somehow earn respect and build pride."

The extreme right-wing influence on South Asian analysts has the potential for serious miscalculations by either India or Pakistan in the nuclear and the missile arena, and it does not augur well for the future of Indo-Pak region and the world at large.

 

[Markus]

I pray for Mr Manmohan Singh everyday now.. that man is the last hope for peace in the region. The rest are fueled by thirst for blood and their egos.

lol.......MMS is only a mask, the remote control is with somewhere else.