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Desert Fox
The Afghans couldn't do a damn thing to begin with. Without Gen Zia and Fahad, things could have never been turned that way. Simply and plainly, It was none other than Pakistan, KSA, and the
Taliban who acted out in response to the invasion.
The Afghans didn't have guns or bullets, nor have they ever had been trained to carry out a guerrilla warfare
A lot of misconception, highlighted in bold.
1). Afghans, even without modern weapons, or limited modern weapons, were putting up resistance against the Red Army. Otherwise Charlie Wilson and those who supported his commitment to arming the Afghan rebels, would not have made the decision to do so in the first place. Its the will of the man (or men) behind the machine that matters and not the machine itself.
2). Taliban as a movement only came into existence in the 1990's, years after the Soviet-Afghan war ended (1989). Though, the founders of the movement did participate in that war, however they were part of other factions that existed in that time.
3). The Afghans did have guns and bullets, though not enough to cause considerable damage to the Red Army with its modern weaponry. And most Afghans were still armed with WW2 rifles left by the british.
However, i believe it is ignorant to say that the Afghans had no experience in guerrilla warfare. History proves otherwise. Afghanistan is a trap for any invading army. The Afghans know the mountains, tunnels, valleys, caves, and hilltops more than anyone else and they have used this geography to their advantage throughout history against the most powerful armies in the world; armies that conquered empires yet failed to suppress and defeat the Afghan spirit of resistance and freedom.
No Arab country or America was there to provide assistance and weapons to the Afghans in those previous wars in which they achieved victory on their own, and no Arab country or America is supporting them in their struggle today.
Just an FYI, ~10k Saudis died for your own country, you may not know that, and we don't care if you do or don't, but these are static historic facts.
I don't deny that Arabs fought and died in the struggle against the Red menace. And neither will i claim credit of their sacrifices for my own people. That would be injustice.
However, the war was largely a Afghan struggle, and majority of those who died were Afghans.
Regarding the insult on the Pashtuns, if you care to read what's been said in that thread, you will be seeing my post condemning such use of a poor language from YOUR END to Al-Hasani's.
Well, if you thought i was referring to you, then you are mistaken.
Apparently, Arabian Legend was cheering on al-hasani's posts that contained insulting remarks against my people. And here he is taking claim of the Afghan victory against the Soviet Red Army?
Funnily enough, you have been insulting us for almost a year, yet, we didn't whine about your poor attitude simply because we try not to sink into a level of immaturity.
That is one hell of a accusation. That means my every post on this forum for a whole year contained insults to Arabs.
Can you provide evidence for this? That shouldn't be a problem for you though, since my every post for the whole past year must have contained one insult or another against Arabs (as you claimed).
If you can provide evidence for this accusation (which shouldn't be hard since my every post for the past year contains insults against Arabs, as you have claimed), then i will admit my fault readily.
However, if you fail to do so, then, well, what would that make you look like? I'm sure you already know.
We didn't claim anything that supposed not to be ours. You will want to ask @
Aeronaut @
BATMAN @
Pakistanisage @
Imran Khan and hear back from them.
That's fine then.
? Maybe @<u><a href="http://www.defence.pk/forums/member.php?u=133385" target="_blank">anonymus</a></u> can explain such syndromes.
