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@Devil Soul although you are posting tweets but its good work but one must say that the situation keeps getting murkier as you post more tweets. :P :P :P) o_O:p:8-)
 
Yara, are they all tweets????? I'm confused about your political preferences!!!! I RARELY get confused! :p:



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Yara, are they all tweets????? I'm confused about your political preferences!!!! I RARELY get confused! :p:
Political rhetoric leads only to confusion.
Tariq Ramadan
8-):woot:

Not all of them are tweets, Tweets of others are with their respective names :)
 
No, man. I like you. Especially liked your old avatar. Please put that back!

Alright, really enough of the forum--time for some 'yard work'. Joys of Sundays. "I will be back".
Hasta-la-vista!

We already knew these facts. First time, someone had the balls to come out in the open and take a risk. My respects to the man. The whole system is seriously effed up. If anyone carefully watched the interview, he'd understand who supplied the 'extra' ballot papers. We all know exactly where they are printed!!!! :woot:

@Aeronaut @Oscar
They are lined like that, will be a snow ball effect!
I mean, directly or indirectly ! It's really dangerous to take on ISI?
& noora Kingo, has done that , each & every time he is in office, just a day before, he was thinking to sack ISI, MI chefs?
But then became affraid!
 
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Disgruntled PTI MNAs decide to form forward bloc

ISLAMABAD: As many as 11 disgruntled Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf MNAs have decided to form a forward bloc after developing serious differences with the party leadership over the issue of resignations.

A PTI MNA Gulzar Khan accused the party leadership of not consulting the lawmakers over the decision of resignations during the sit-in in Islamabad.

He said that they were neither consulted nor taken on board over such a big decision.

Disgruntled PTI MNAs decide to form forward bloc - thenews.com.pk

Afzal levelled rigging allegations after not getting extension: Kayani

RAWALPINDI: While dismissing the allegations of Afzal Khan, Justice (retd) Riaz Kayani said the allegations were false and baseless.


He said Afzal Khan had levelled false allegations after not being given an extension in his services as he was not qualified for the extension.

He said that the personality of Afzal Khan was controversial during his service tenure. He said Afzal retired a few days after the elections.

Meanwhile, former Supreme Court judge Justice Tariq Mehmood said that people like Afzal Khan should not be encouraged. He said creating such an atmosphere now would be enmity with the public.

He said that Afzal Khan remembered all these things after one-and-a-half years. He lamented that the allegations levelled against respectable Fakhruddin G Ebrahim were regrettable.

Afzal levelled rigging allegations after not getting extension: Kayani - thenews.com.pk
 
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Disgruntled PTI MNAs decide to form forward bloc

ISLAMABAD: As many as 11 disgruntled Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf MNAs have decided to form a forward bloc after developing serious differences with the party leadership over the issue of resignations.

A PTI MNA Gulzar Khan accused the party leadership of not consulting the lawmakers over the decision of resignations during the sit-in in Islamabad.

He said that they were neither consulted nor taken on board over such a big decision.

Disgruntled PTI MNAs decide to form forward bloc - thenews.com.pk

Afzal levelled rigging allegations after not getting extension: Kayani

RAWALPINDI: While dismissing the allegations of Afzal Khan, Justice (retd) Riaz Kayani said the allegations were false and baseless.


He said Afzal Khan had levelled false allegations after not being given an extension in his services as he was not qualified for the extension.

He said that the personality of Afzal Khan was controversial during his service tenure. He said Afzal retired a few days after the elections.

Meanwhile, former Supreme Court judge Justice Tariq Mehmood said that people like Afzal Khan should not be encouraged. He said creating such an atmosphere now would be enmity with the public.

He said that Afzal Khan remembered all these things after one-and-a-half years. He lamented that the allegations levelled against respectable Fakhruddin G Ebrahim were regrettable.

Afzal levelled rigging allegations after not getting extension: Kayani - thenews.com.pk
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PTI’s bizarre proposals of resignations

By Editorial
Updated about 7 hours ago

WHEN is a resignation not quite a resignation? It seems when it is demanded by the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf.

Determined to secure seemingly even a ‘non-resignation resignation’ to fulfil its original demand that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif step down, the PTI has mooted a most peculiar set of ideas: the prime minister should, according to the PTI, resign for a short duration while the judicial commission completes its work, and thereafter resume office if the commission’s findings do not warrant fresh elections. In the annals of global political history, it would be difficult to find an example that would match the PTI’s extremely bizarre proposal.

For what, exactly, would Prime Minister Sharif’s temporary resignation achieve?

Consider that the very elections that the PTI is disputing were held under a caretaker government. Clearly then, even within the PTI’s scheme of things, if the PML-N was allegedly able to rig an election when not in office, could it not affect the outcome of a judicial inquiry when the party has governments at both the centre and in the principally electorally disputed province of Punjab? Is there a conspiracy to divide Punjab province ?

Or is the PTI arguing that it is Nawaz Sharif and he alone who is able and willing to distort elections and inquiries, and that with Mr Sharif temporarily on the side lines, the PML-N governments in the centre and in Punjab would miraculously become independent bodies that will discover the world the way the PTI sees it?

Or does the PTI secretly hope that nominating a stop-gap prime minister would bring in a national government of sorts through the back door, giving the party a say in who the temporary leader should be? The latest PTI suggestion is as ludicrous and off-putting as several that have come before it.

At this point, it is worth asking who is advising Imran Khan. Shah Mehmood Qureshi has taken a central role in the present crisis and has been both extremely visible and active. The former PPP foreign minister has forged a reputation of sorts of having political ambitions that perhaps do not quite match his political stature.

Is Mr Khan listening to the wrong man? Or is that wrong man Mr Khan himself?

That Mr Khan could in fact be on a solo flight, with his PTI colleagues struggling to keep up, is a possibility that was further reinforced on Friday as Mr Khan suggested that his quest for a so-called new and improved Pakistan was in part tied to his desire to get married again.

Allow that proposition to sink in for a moment. Thousands of people assembled outside parliament, a country held hostage to a political crisis, and Mr Khan has his mind on personal affairs and marriage, even if he attempted to qualify his remarks later. Is Imran Khan a serious politician a pop star or, sadly, just a pop-star politician?

Published in Dawn, August 25th, 2014

PTI’s bizarre proposals - Newspaper - DAWN.COM
 
Gr8 Job PTI.. no one in Pakistan history have lunched a protest for 11 days...
Even the worst critics have applaud the efforts
 
PTI’s bizarre proposals of resignations

By Editorial
Updated about 7 hours ago

WHEN is a resignation not quite a resignation? It seems when it is demanded by the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf.

Determined to secure seemingly even a ‘non-resignation resignation’ to fulfil its original demand that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif step down, the PTI has mooted a most peculiar set of ideas: the prime minister should, according to the PTI, resign for a short duration while the judicial commission completes its work, and thereafter resume office if the commission’s findings do not warrant fresh elections. In the annals of global political history, it would be difficult to find an example that would match the PTI’s extremely bizarre proposal.

For what, exactly, would Prime Minister Sharif’s temporary resignation achieve?

Consider that the very elections that the PTI is disputing were held under a caretaker government. Clearly then, even within the PTI’s scheme of things, if the PML-N was allegedly able to rig an election when not in office, could it not affect the outcome of a judicial inquiry when the party has governments at both the centre and in the principally electorally disputed province of Punjab? Is there a conspiracy to divide Punjab province ?

Or is the PTI arguing that it is Nawaz Sharif and he alone who is able and willing to distort elections and inquiries, and that with Mr Sharif temporarily on the side lines, the PML-N governments in the centre and in Punjab would miraculously become independent bodies that will discover the world the way the PTI sees it?

Or does the PTI secretly hope that nominating a stop-gap prime minister would bring in a national government of sorts through the back door, giving the party a say in who the temporary leader should be? The latest PTI suggestion is as ludicrous and off-putting as several that have come before it.

At this point, it is worth asking who is advising Imran Khan. Shah Mehmood Qureshi has taken a central role in the present crisis and has been both extremely visible and active. The former PPP foreign minister has forged a reputation of sorts of having political ambitions that perhaps do not quite match his political stature.

Is Mr Khan listening to the wrong man? Or is that wrong man Mr Khan himself?

That Mr Khan could in fact be on a solo flight, with his PTI colleagues struggling to keep up, is a possibility that was further reinforced on Friday as Mr Khan suggested that his quest for a so-called new and improved Pakistan was in part tied to his desire to get married again.

Allow that proposition to sink in for a moment. Thousands of people assembled outside parliament, a country held hostage to a political crisis, and Mr Khan has his mind on personal affairs and marriage, even if he attempted to qualify his remarks later. Is Imran Khan a serious politician a pop star or, sadly, just a pop-star politician?

Published in Dawn, August 25th, 2014

PTI’s bizarre proposals - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

What a tabloid title..no wonder dawn is going down the drain as a newspaper.

firstly, if an inquiry against a particular officer of the govt is to be held, the first thing is that happens is to suspend that particular officer, so that he/she may not influence the process of inquiry.

plus there is no moral ground to stick with the office. pmln is a political party, I am sure out of 186 parliamentarians there are dozens of parliamentarians who qualify for the post in pmln's opinion.

lastly if there is nothing to hide, there is nothing to fear...

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Nawaz must resign so those who testify can be given protection: Imran - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
 
Populist's Brash Tactics Stir Fears of Crisis in Pakistan
Declan Walsh, The New York Times | Updated: August 25, 2014 10:57 IST

London: Only last year, Imran Khan was casting himself as the savior of Pakistani politics: a playboy cricketer turned opposition leader who enjoyed respect and sex appeal, filling stadiums with adoring young Pakistanis drawn to his strident attacks on corruption, U.S. drone strikes and old-school politics. When Khan promised that he would become prime minister, many believed him.

Now, though, Khan's populist touch appears to have deserted him.

He led thousands of supporters into the center of the capital, Islamabad, a week ago in a boisterous bid to force the resignation of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, whom he accuses of election fraud. But the crowds he attracted were much smaller than his party had hoped, and the protest movement has been messy, inchoate and inconclusive.

Khan, 61, delivers speeches every day from atop a shipping container opposite the parliament building, while his supporters sleep on the streets of a paralyzed city. But because he lacks the clout to break the political deadlock, he has turned to inflammatory tactics.

In recent days, he has called for a tax boycott, threatened to have his supporters storm the prime minister's house, and pulled his party's lawmakers from Parliament. In interviews, he has compared himself to Gandhi and to Tariq ibn Ziyad, an eighth-century Islamic general. In speeches, he has threatened his enemies and taunted Sharif, at one point challenging him to a fistfight.

The rest of the political opposition and much of the news media in Pakistan have turned against Khan, who is seen as having disastrously overreached. "Go Home Imran," said a politically conservative newspaper, The Nation. Another writer called him "the Sarah Palin of Pakistan."

But many worry that Khan's brash tactics could endanger the country's fragile democracy. Breaking its sphinxlike stance, the military intervened in the turmoil Tuesday, urging politicians to resolve their differences with "patience, wisdom and sagacity." Though benignly worded, the statement caused anxious flutters among the political class, who note Pakistan's long history of military coups.

The protests in Islamabad "threaten to upend the constitutional order, set back rule of law and open the possibility of a soft coup, with the military ruling through the back door," the Brussels-based International Crisis Group warned Thursday. Hours later, the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad said pointedly in a statement that its diplomats "strongly oppose any efforts to impose extraconstitutional change."

On the streets, Khan's movement has the boisterous feel of a midsummer music festival. Pop stars introduce his speeches, which are punctuated by songs during which his supporters, many of them women, burst into dance. A disc jockey known as DJ Butt is part of his entourage.

But Khan's stewardship of that exuberant crowd has seemed erratic. When the marchers arrived in Islamabad on Aug. 15 after a punishing 36-hour journey from Lahore, the capital was being pounded by rain. While his supporters slept on the wet streets, Khan retreated to his villa outside the city to rest, drawing sharp criticism.

In speeches, he has used extensive cricket analogies, referring to himself as "captain," and his heated, often intemperate style has alienated some supporters. At one point, he threatened to send his political enemies to the Taliban so the insurgents could "deal with them."

Khan's call for supporters to stop paying taxes and utility bills met with widespread derision because few Pakistanis pay income taxes, and the country is already crippled with power shortages. His attack on the U.S. ambassador, Richard G. Olson, was seen as pandering to anti-American sentiment. "Are we, Pakistanis, children of a lesser god?" he said in that speech.

The protests stem from accusations of vote-rigging in the May 2013 general election. Khan accuses Sharif's party of fixing the vote in a number of constituencies in Punjab province. Critics of Khan call his accusations sour grapes: Although international observers noted some irregularities, the election was accepted as broadly free and fair.

Suspicions that the military, whose relations with Sharif's government have been tense, might have something to do with Khan's protest movement were heightened by the appearance of Muhammad Tahir-ul Qadri, a mercurial cleric whose parallel movement has, in recent days, outshone Khan's.

Qadri, who wants to replace Sharif's government with one of technocrats, appears to have attracted a larger and more disciplined crowd, and to be benefiting from a simpler message. Normally based in Canada, he controls no seats in Parliament, and his populist manifesto is filled with laudable but vague notions like an end to terrorism.

Sharif's government, which initially reacted to the protests in a clumsy and sometimes brutal manner, has taken a more sophisticated approach in recent days. The police have allowed Khan's and Qadri's supporters to reach the area outside Parliament, although the building itself is surrounded by hundreds of soldiers.

On one level, the dispute is about control of Punjab, Pakistan's most populous province and Sharif's political heartland. Khan's party, the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, knows it must challenge Sharif in Punjab to stand a chance of beating him nationally.

Negotiations started Wednesday, but Khan called them off a day later, demanding that Sharif resign first. Addressing a crowd, he railed against the prime minister in language considered coarse even by the rowdy standards of Pakistani politics.

Pressure to resolve the crisis is rising, both from hard-liners in Sharif's party and from residents of Islamabad, who complain about the strain the protests have put on the capital. Protesters dry their laundry on the lawn of the Supreme Court and slip behind bushes to defecate.

The former president, Asif Ali Zardari, has offered to help mediate between the parties and met with Sharif on Saturday. But the situation on the streets remains fluid. An outbreak of violence or an overreaction by the police could shift the advantage to Khan and endanger the government, analysts say.

Few Pakistanis believe that a military coup is imminent. But the crisis has weakened Sharif, who has squabbled with the generals over policy toward India, peace talks with the Taliban and the fate of the former military ruler Pervez Musharraf, who faces treason charges.

"The military doesn't need to impose martial law now," said Amir Mateen, a political analyst based in Islamabad. "Imran has weakened the entire political class, and the government is on its knees. The military can have its agenda fulfilled without doing anything."

The next move, though, is up to Khan, who, having played an ambitious game, now needs to find a way to end it peacefully.
© 2014, The New York Times News Service
Story first published: August 25, 2014 10:52 IST
 

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