PTI's Azadi March 14th August 2014 l Updates and debate.
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PTI has made some bad descion . The march handling was a big disappointment, no transport, no food, lack of planning an management . PTI had a really good start but failed to capitalize on the support it had . The civil disobedience was a very bad idea..
shit happens, no need to worry about people politics .. Nawaz sharif started movement against zardari but it failed .. people forget these thngs ... It would hurt PTI in short run leave a major denrt on politics but soon they will come around .. Many analyst said that PTI lost support after election gbut it didnt . Long march showed that to the world .. Let the people be government by sharif and bhutttos for a while and PTI will be came to its popularity
shit happens, no need to worry about people politics .. Nawaz sharif started movement against zardari but it failed .. people forget these thngs ... It would hurt PTI in short run leave a major denrt on politics but soon they will come around .. Many analyst said that PTI lost support after election gbut it didnt . Long march showed that to the world .. Let the people be government by sharif and bhutttos for a while and PTI will be came to its popularity
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It means you also Pakistani and eat where your shit...am i right?
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That is what you call "Tactical Move" - in Military terms or you can say in western Terms. Two Perspectives one is for the "Local Audience" and the second is for "International Audience".
For the local audience, in front of them it’s a blunder by IK (no doubt) But what about international audience (from whom IK did what).
Let’s come to the point. IK actually hit two things with single shot. First IK is a "Political Party". He can't attack with mobs on the parliament and diplomatic enclave. He is running democratic identity (Political party). It will be a big blunder for his party in future’s perspective if he did such thing. As we know Nawaz Shareef and his cabinet attacked Supreme Court in 90s and till today they're facing that case.
- What is Tactical move of IK.
IK gave the ultimatum to PM for two days and announced to launch a civil disobedience campaign against the government.
Now today what exactly happens? Before, the international media was not covering the political crisis of Pakistan. Today all the Int. media start reporting "Headline" about Civil disobedience by PTI in Pakistan and halt all the state functions in "Capital" of Pakistan. That is what his agenda to call the west, “We as a PTI, 2nd largest party shut-down Government functionaries which include, dialogues, and business collaborations, military or political activities in the state capital of Pakistan.
In that case all the international investors and foreigners, diplomat limited their activities. Guess what today, Government of Pakistan announced "two days of vacation" (requested) to all the embassies in Islamabad. Half of diplomats moved to Karachi (consulates) and rest are on vacations.
One day emergency vacation considers as normal in any West Country but "Two Days" vacation consider serious crisis in the country.
- Civil Disobedience:
In front of Pakistani's, we hardly understand what is exactly civil disobedience is and those who know-how, remember as a Pakistani citizen we hardly care about such things but in front of west, civil disobedience is like a extreme step taken by some community/party or group against the government at some higher level.
First he was requested Ch.Nisar (according to Ch.Nisar) Ik want to move his March/Stage 200 meter + and get close to the diplomatic enclave (actually). That was really clever move. Yesterday his real target was International community. His message to Int community, "Imran Khan and his party" in government will go for civil obedience against the Federal government.
Second after his speech, capital becomes dis-functional. In front of the International community, if capital of any state is dis-functional, they consider as “big crisis" in the country and limited their activities, stop their investors, stop their people for traveling, stop all the business & military dialogues.
- Political Survival:
If Imran Khan ordered or announced his protestor’s to go and strike over the parliament what will happen. In short-term maybe it will help him but in long-term, tomorrow any party will do the same with him or create problems for his party.
Remember "QADRI" has nothing to lose but IK is. He is actually saved himself from that label.
- Qadri Factor:
TUQ is not a political identity and has no career in politics. If TUQ will strike on the parliament (Today) it will help automatically IK to open his voters, merge in to TUQ mobs and attack. In this case IK achieved his one objective without using his own force; his objective will achieved through Qadri. It will be WIN WIN situation for IK "na ilzaam lagayga kay hamnay kya... na hamare hakomat ayege tu hamko koi blame kar payega kay hamnay kya tha asa kise kay saath".
- Economic Loss
IK has played a brilliant game, government is under pressure. IMF had serious concerns over the marches and the serious drop in the KSE index and huge economic loss due to the political crisis. Hint: Ishaq Dar now left for Dubai today.
IMF and other investors postponed their trips because as Ch.Nisar said “who kahtay hain hamko nahe pata agli hakomat kiske hogi jisay ham agli baat kareengay Imran sahib ki is march ke waja say government ko arboon rupooon ka nuksaan hogaya hey aur ho raha hey” this is serious dent to Government as well.
For the local audience, in front of them it’s a blunder by IK (no doubt) But what about international audience (from whom IK did what).
Let’s come to the point. IK actually hit two things with single shot. First IK is a "Political Party". He can't attack with mobs on the parliament and diplomatic enclave. He is running democratic identity (Political party). It will be a big blunder for his party in future’s perspective if he did such thing. As we know Nawaz Shareef and his cabinet attacked Supreme Court in 90s and till today they're facing that case.
- What is Tactical move of IK.
IK gave the ultimatum to PM for two days and announced to launch a civil disobedience campaign against the government.
Now today what exactly happens? Before, the international media was not covering the political crisis of Pakistan. Today all the Int. media start reporting "Headline" about Civil disobedience by PTI in Pakistan and halt all the state functions in "Capital" of Pakistan. That is what his agenda to call the west, “We as a PTI, 2nd largest party shut-down Government functionaries which include, dialogues, and business collaborations, military or political activities in the state capital of Pakistan.
In that case all the international investors and foreigners, diplomat limited their activities. Guess what today, Government of Pakistan announced "two days of vacation" (requested) to all the embassies in Islamabad. Half of diplomats moved to Karachi (consulates) and rest are on vacations.
One day emergency vacation considers as normal in any West Country but "Two Days" vacation consider serious crisis in the country.
- Civil Disobedience:
In front of Pakistani's, we hardly understand what is exactly civil disobedience is and those who know-how, remember as a Pakistani citizen we hardly care about such things but in front of west, civil disobedience is like a extreme step taken by some community/party or group against the government at some higher level.
First he was requested Ch.Nisar (according to Ch.Nisar) Ik want to move his March/Stage 200 meter + and get close to the diplomatic enclave (actually). That was really clever move. Yesterday his real target was International community. His message to Int community, "Imran Khan and his party" in government will go for civil obedience against the Federal government.
Second after his speech, capital becomes dis-functional. In front of the International community, if capital of any state is dis-functional, they consider as “big crisis" in the country and limited their activities, stop their investors, stop their people for traveling, stop all the business & military dialogues.
- Political Survival:
If Imran Khan ordered or announced his protestor’s to go and strike over the parliament what will happen. In short-term maybe it will help him but in long-term, tomorrow any party will do the same with him or create problems for his party.
Remember "QADRI" has nothing to lose but IK is. He is actually saved himself from that label.
- Qadri Factor:
TUQ is not a political identity and has no career in politics. If TUQ will strike on the parliament (Today) it will help automatically IK to open his voters, merge in to TUQ mobs and attack. In this case IK achieved his one objective without using his own force; his objective will achieved through Qadri. It will be WIN WIN situation for IK "na ilzaam lagayga kay hamnay kya... na hamare hakomat ayege tu hamko koi blame kar payega kay hamnay kya tha asa kise kay saath".
- Economic Loss
IK has played a brilliant game, government is under pressure. IMF had serious concerns over the marches and the serious drop in the KSE index and huge economic loss due to the political crisis. Hint: Ishaq Dar now left for Dubai today.
IMF and other investors postponed their trips because as Ch.Nisar said “who kahtay hain hamko nahe pata agli hakomat kiske hogi jisay ham agli baat kareengay Imran sahib ki is march ke waja say government ko arboon rupooon ka nuksaan hogaya hey aur ho raha hey” this is serious dent to Government as well.
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Yaar, is emotional qom ko politics ki ground realities samajnei mein time lage gaa. Chalein hain Imran Khan ko politics sikhane, jo 18 saal sei politics mein hai.
This nation deserves the likes of Maryam Nawaz, Hamza Shahbaz and Bilawal Bhutto to rule it in the near future.
Civil Disobedience sirf eik political stunt hai, iss ka purpose government per pressure put karna hai. Seriously people, how long do you think that the dharna will last?
People from Rawalpindi and Islamabad should have contributed to the dharna to make it 10 lacs in strength to show the government of PML(N) that it is not performing up to expectations. But nope, this nation cannot fight for its rights. Sirf batian kar sakhtein hain apne comfort zones mein reh kar.
I really salute those people who have joined Azadi march and are committed to it.
Also, I don't get the reaction really, how many people actually pay the taxes, bills and such? I am confident that if a survey is conducted, number of defaulters would be staggering.
This nation deserves the likes of Maryam Nawaz, Hamza Shahbaz and Bilawal Bhutto to rule it in the near future.
Civil Disobedience sirf eik political stunt hai, iss ka purpose government per pressure put karna hai. Seriously people, how long do you think that the dharna will last?
People from Rawalpindi and Islamabad should have contributed to the dharna to make it 10 lacs in strength to show the government of PML(N) that it is not performing up to expectations. But nope, this nation cannot fight for its rights. Sirf batian kar sakhtein hain apne comfort zones mein reh kar.
I really salute those people who have joined Azadi march and are committed to it.
Also, I don't get the reaction really, how many people actually pay the taxes, bills and such? I am confident that if a survey is conducted, number of defaulters would be staggering.
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Game is just begun!IK has lost the battle. The sooner we accept it the better.
While it won't hurt him in a long run, it surely is embarrassing for him right now
It's not over yet, but it's not for the kids, who thinks that every thing will happen like a Hollywood movie?
I am not sure why everyone expecting thousands of people especially in the morning. IK does have the ability to bring people when he needs to. Right now he is just playing around with time and that serves him no purpose but putting his followers in a bad situation.
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Sir, it's doesn't matters just on some distance, there are TUQ supporters, if need they can come & put the numbers straight, cause both IMRAN & TUQ are in contact, but now it's the time, TUQ plays his maJIc , then game will back in IMRAN, s hands?
It's a joint startegy, which people's don't understand!
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Sos for PTIANS at AZADI MARCH!
Be aware of the peoples who you don't know or have just met them, who are trying & saying that march is failed, they are paid patwari sent by nooray king to disrupt the AZADI MARCH?
Be aware of the peoples who you don't know or have just met them, who are trying & saying that march is failed, they are paid patwari sent by nooray king to disrupt the AZADI MARCH?
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