Pakistan's New Fighter Jets Can Change the Balance: The Impact of Pakistan's First...

[kashith]

well PAF has historically done that in 1971 IAF had Mig-21, far superior in both technology and manuverability.....but PAF did manage to bring down at least on Mig by using Saber that too one on on as i know. and do let me remind you as well by 2015 PAF will be switching from Thunder III to J-10B manufacturing.....possible J-11....for navy as roumered........or an indiginous design....and very likely a J-10/J-11 Hybrid (another JV with China)....so don't worry

Well good for you,how much soft loan is China processing this time?

There is a saying :Ghar main nahi daane ,Fufi chali bhunane......

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Well good for you,how much soft loan is China processing this time?

There is a saying :Ghar main nahi daane ,Fufi chali bhunane......

About india:
bachay bhookh say mar rahey haien phuphi lenay chali lenay daane.

 

[pakpower]

About india:
bachay bhookh say mar rahey haien phuphi lenay chali lenay daane.

Dude just chill these indians are nuts dont pay attention to their ediotic thoughts and stay happy Pakistan Zindabaad.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Ur right bro.

 

[Rain]

Moin Ansari hype! I strongly disagree with him. In my opinion JF 17 is not a balance changer! yet it is a symbol of fact that Pakistan is moving in right direction, if Pakistan get rid of ecnomic mess and remain well focused, it will be able, one day, to deny indian superiority in the region

 

[asq]

Moin Ansari hype! I strongly disagree with him. In my opinion JF 17 is not a balance changer! yet it is a symbol of fact that Pakistan is moving in right direction, if Pakistan get rid of ecnomic mess and remain well focused, it will be able, one day, to deny indian superiority in the region

it is the most suiable jet fighter for us and let me remind yiu that India always had better eqpt, that did not deter us from defending ourselve.

they always talk about East Pakistan, little they know that we stopped the war for saving lives as we could have continued and cause more deaths, but we knew that their will be another time and another place to fight these tyrants, why I call them tyrants, look what they are doing in kashmir for the past 60 years,

I am glad that we in East pakistan at the expanse of our soldiers becomming pows, chose not to do this kind of inhumane act. And that is why I say proudly that we the Paksitanis hold high moral grounds.

 

[kashith]

it is the most suiable jet fighter for us and let me remind yiu that India always had better eqpt, that did not deter us from defending ourselve.

they always talk about East Pakistan, little they know that we stopped the war for saving lives as we could have continued and cause more deaths, but we knew that their will be another time and another place to fight these tyrants, why I call them tyrants, look what they are doing in kashmir for the past 60 years,

I am glad that we in East pakistan at the expanse of our soldiers becomming pows, chose not to do this kind of inhumane act. And that is why I say proudly that we the Paksitanis hold high moral grounds.

Well JF-17 is a good fighter,PAF will anyways use them as point defence with offence left to F-16s and I have no doubt Pak can defend itself very well,I fully agree with you on this point,but come on 71 a moral victory for PAK?Pakistan chose not to do inhumane act ? of WHAT?
Lets recall what happened in 71.
Mujeeb won election but Mujeeb wasnt allowed to be prime minister
,Bangladeshis revolted and Pakistan Army started a Massacre in Dhaka.Millions fled to India as a result of which Indira Gandhi ordered army to help mukti bahini.Indian army conducted Blitzkrieg style operations in Dhaka,in response
Air-strike on western front of India by Pakistan.India retaliated by attacking Karachi,and denied air superiority to PAF on Indian skies.
USA sent Enterprise as a warning to India and as a result USSR sent a nuclear submarine.Before the Enterprise could sail in Niazi surrendered with 90000 POW.They had no other option,it was a defeat not a stalemate.I dont know what moral victory are you talking about.

 

[Storm Force]

New Jets can change the balance BUT SURELY YOU need more than a handul of 18 F16/52..

The J10 is 5 years away even then PAF have ordered a handful of 40 planes.

That leaves 10 prototypes of the Thunder thus far.

Again a total unknown even pakistanis suggest the Thunder will not be the best that PAF has to offer puting falcons first as state of the art.

 

[Dazzler]

State of the art category will be fulfilled by the FC-20, aided by the Block 52s, main stay will be the thunders replacing all the fishbeds, fantans and even mirages (including rose ones) eventually. This will be the PAF in five to eight years to come. J-XX will come into equation after that.

 

[FireFighter]

Here's a much needed reality check video for the Indians here who're day dreaming about the capabilities of their air force


A must see for Indians, it's for Times Now an Indian channel:


"An armory of junk, and a nation to defend"

 

[chantpapipart2]

Wow… sometime I feel pity for your F16s. In case of war your 28 odd F16 (Considering 100% serviceability) will be doing…

SEAD missions
Will be used for deep penetration strikes in India.
Protect your AWACS.
Will protect your naval assets from Indian navy air arm as your Mirages are no match for Sea harrier let alone Mig 29K.
Will provide escort to other fighters.
Second best choice for nuclear strike for Pak after missiles

Is there any thing else you expect ?????

 

[chantpapipart2]

Here's a much needed reality check video for the Indians here who're day dreaming about the capabilities of their air force


A must see for Indians, it's for Times Now an Indian channel:


"An armory of junk, and a nation to defend"

YouTube - Gen Deepak Kapoor Are you really ready?

Great News for Pakistan. Now you don't need to worry about India. Why don't you reduce your defence budget ?

 

[asq]

Well JF-17 is a good fighter,PAF will anyways use them as point defence with offence left to F-16s and I have no doubt Pak can defend itself very well,I fully agree with you on this point,but come on 71 a moral victory for PAK?Pakistan chose not to do inhumane act ? of WHAT?
Lets recall what happened in 71.
Mujeeb won election but Mujeeb wasnt allowed to be prime minister
,Bangladeshis revolted and Pakistan Army started a Massacre in Dhaka.Millions fled to India as a result of which Indira Gandhi ordered army to help mukti bahini.Indian army conducted Blitzkrieg style operations in Dhaka,in response
Air-strike on western front of India by Pakistan.India retaliated by attacking Karachi,and denied air superiority to PAF on Indian skies.
USA sent Enterprise as a warning to India and as a result USSR sent a nuclear submarine.Before the Enterprise could sail in Niazi surrendered with 90000 POW.They had no other option,it was a defeat not a stalemate.I dont know what moral victory are you talking about.

Let me open your mind.

India conspired with mujieb the traiter 5 years prior to the election in Pakistan and started training Mukti buhini.

Pakistan army had to go after traiter whio were suporting Mukiti Buhini traiters working for India and Mujeeb from universities and colleges to spread disinformation and guidng traiters from Universites by communications equipment setsprovided by India, to destroy those who being in Pakistan were tools of India.

Unlike India, which continue to kill innnocent kashmiris now for more than 60 years. What a SHAME.

90,00 POWS was a wise dicision given the choices of fighting to death and in doing so killING lots of people or to be pows and fight another day in the arena where there will be no traiters to back stab you.

U.S. talked about proving assistance on the other hand India got Amphibious vehicles to cross all the water ways and radar jammers including all other equipment from russia, that Pakistan did not have, and to fight in a enemy territory run by traiters and thugs was a loosing proposition, so it was wise to be POWS and than to fight interfering Indians and traiters suported by India.

Now all the big powers have had their pows aas well so this is not unique to Pakistan, but it was wise.

I was dispicable to attack karachi, as Navies were never involved in the fight, but than India does this all the time.

Let me give u the details of POWS IN thise world, it is not unique to Pakstan.dude.

Remeber atlantic plane flying in Pakistani territory under the pact between two countries about these flights, India being the way it is did not care about the pact and shot the plane in pak. territory there by killing all innocent human beings.

In fact India got on the scene and stole parts to take it to Indian side and lie to the world about it being in indian teritory. right now it looks like a plan killing of innocent and stealing the parts to fool the wolrd for it being in Indian territory. What a shame.

Take a lok at the list of POWS IN wars. it only talks about ww2 and not neoplionic or other wars.

Prisoner of war - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[S.U.R.B.]

Wow… sometime I feel pity for your F16s. In case of war your 28 odd F16

First of all the number is not 28,second f-16blk 52+ we getting are not that odd.

will be doing…

SEAD missions
Will be used for deep penetration strikes in India.
Protect your AWACS.
Will protect your naval assets from Indian navy air arm as your Mirages are no match for Sea harrier let alone Mig 29K.

JF-17 and j-10 will be sharing the role.

Second best choice for nuclear strike for Pak after missiles

we don't require any second choice ;our missile system never failed and is there with pin point accuracy.Choices creats confusion sometimes and are for those whose missile systems are similar to Indian ones.

 

[Chanakyaa]

@ask
Please be realistic.
India culd have conspired with m.bahini, but at any, simply any cost..can a nation accept to be split in two equal halves ?

If so , and if pakistani are so moral ( indians are definately not in this regard ) why dont they 'surreender' a smaller, disupted kashmir?

i dont see any logic to surrender of half of ur mainland in 20 days while fight for a disputed land for over 50 years., of course as per ur view.


Also, indian army acts are not confirmed by any internqtional body and and any similar story can be framed for baluch as well, which i feel is a waste of time.

Dont u think u too should be ashamed of 'non state' yet pakistani citizens who kill hundreds in a few minutes?

And this is NOT my view but that of YOUR ex PM Nawaz sharif who said on LIVE TV that Kasab is Pakistani and we must feel sorry and responsible. And stop hiding that he is a pakistani.

Bad is done from our side too.
But friends if u dare to think, we didnt invite kargil and yet it happened. And there are people who will still try to prove kargil was fair.

If india had to attack u, we could have crossed the line in 99 as u did in 65 and 71 and 99, but we didnt.

We want peace and we mean it.