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Pakistan’s Muslim solidarity disappears

We don't have claim or party of uighar issue but r of Kashmir
But you aren't party to the Palestine-Israel issue too. But you cry about Palestine and abuse Israel like a ritual.

So no need to lie my friend. Your hypocrisy is visible for everyone to see. You can't utter a word for Uighar Muslims because you are scared of China. You don't want to upset China because you take money from them. Your economy is totally dependent on them. You wanna forget about Ummah concept when it comes to Chinese power.

So just accept the truth and nothing will go wrong.

As for ugihhar simple thing is we can't get involved in every fight of world only those which concern's our interest realpolitik
Exactly. You wanna be selective as per your national interests (which is fine by me). You wanna cry against India and Israel everyday because you hate these 2 countries. But you can't do it in front of China because you take money from them.

I ask all Pakistanis not to reply to this thread.
No need to be afraid of China just because they give you money.
 
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And someone who belongs to the race and nation that has an abnormally obsessive hatred of Muslims is in NO pisition to comment on such matters. It's not your prerogative to do so.
I think you are talking about US and Europe. If you are talking about Pakistan Muslims, than it is gulf countries.
 
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I think you are talking about US and Europe. If you are talking about Pakistan Muslims, than it is gulf countries.



Here in the UK and Western Europe, Muslims have increased by more than 250% since 2004. Muslims have a lot of power and numbers here and it's only increasing. The current mayor of London, Sadiq Khan is a Pakistani Muslim. The Home Secretary of the UK (2nd only to the Prime Minister) is also a Pakistani Muslim, Sajid Javid. That says a lot..........:azn:

But you aren't party to the Palestine-Israel issue too. But you cry about Palestine and abuse Israel like a ritual.

So no need to lie my friend. Your hypocrisy is visible for everyone to see. You can't utter a word for Uighar Muslims because you are scared of China. You don't want to upset China because you take money from them. Your economy is totally dependent on them. You wanna forget about Ummah concept when it comes to Chinese power.

So just accept the truth and nothing will go wrong.


Exactly. You wanna be selective as per your national interests (which is fine by me). You wanna cry against India and Israel everyday because you hate these 2 countries. But you can't do it in front of China because you take money from them.


No need to be afraid of China just because they give you money.



So when did the Chinese massacre millions of Muslims like the israelis, indians and americans have done? When did the Chinese invade and destroy Muslim nations? Please provide genuine, irrefutable, reliable and honest sources of them having done so.
 
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But you aren't party to the Palestine-Israel issue too. But you cry about Palestine and abuse Israel like a ritual.

So no need to lie my friend. Your hypocrisy is visible for everyone to see. You can't utter a word for Uighar Muslims because you are scared of China. You don't want to upset China because you take money from them. Your economy is totally dependent on them. You wanna forget about Ummah concept when it comes to Chinese power.

So just accept the truth and nothing will go wrong.


Exactly. You wanna be selective as per your national interests (which is fine by me). You wanna cry against India and Israel everyday because you hate these 2 countries. But you can't do it in front of China because you take money from them.


No need to be afraid of China just because they give you money.


You are quite blunt mate...Spot on with ur assessment....No one is expecting Pakistan to support Ughigur separatism as China is his friend...But Pakistan poster fail to admit that their support to Muslim cause is not really for Muslims across the world rather they use Muslim cause to serve their own interest...
 
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You are quite blunt mate...Spot on with ur assessment....No one is expecting Pakistan to support Ughigur separatism as China is his friend...But Pakistan poster fail to admit that their support to Muslim cause is not really for Muslims across the world rather they use Muslim cause to serve their own interest...


So when did the Chinese start massacring the Ughigurs like the israelis do to the Palestinians? Please provide the evidence?
 
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So when did the Chinese start massacring the Ughigurs like the israelis do to the Palestinians? Please provide the evidence?

Trust me....you know the answer in your heart...I do not need to answer ...
That means for you....you will start taking up the issue with China when china eliminates Muslims beyond certain threshhold number like milions....Is it your logic to argue with me....

Again...you are not getting my point..we are not questioning why you are not raising concern rather amazed with the hypocrisy of Pakistan posters in admitting certain facts...
 
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Trust me....you know the answer in your heart...I do not need to answer ...
That means for you....you will start taking up the issue with China when china eliminates Muslims beyond certain threshhold number like milions....Is it your logic to argue with me....

Again...you are not getting my point..we are not questioning why you are not raising concern rather amazed with the hypocrisy of Pakistan posters in admitting certain facts...



Will the Chinese need to considering MOST Ugihurs are well integrated into Chinese society?

Personally myself, I could not give a damn about the Paleatinians, Syrians, Iraqis, afghans etc. Not the problem of Pakistan and Pakistanis.

Pakistan matters to us. Not the so called "Muslim World".
 
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Will the Chinese need to considering MOST Ugihurs are well integrated into Chinese society?

Personally myself, I could not give a damn about the Paleatinians, Syrians, Iraqis, afghans etc. Not the problem of Pakistan and Pakistanis.

Pakistan matters to us. Not the so called "Muslim World".

I agree with you...we should always concerned about our country first rather than what Hindus and Muslims in any far away land is been persecuted or not...
 
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Trust me....you know the answer in your heart...I do not need to answer ...
Honestly , I don't , can you specify? in the 1980's Uighurs population was 6 million and now stands around 10 million, is this what you mean?
 
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It seems the Chinese are very brutal. :o:
You can’t force anything on anyone, not even your own kin.
This will take a ugly turn for China , I am sure of it.

India has been flagged for fake news the world over
 
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中国五十六个民族当中,人口增长率最快的,不是小民族,而是人口超千万的超大民族:维吾尔族。人口增长最慢的,也不是几万人、十几、几十万人的小民族,而是人口规模中等的朝鲜族。
  现在我们先来看一组数据:
  2000年维族“五普”人口:8405416人,也就是八百万人口出头
  2010年月维族“六普”人口:10071394人,超过了一千万人口
  十年间维族人口净增长1665978人,维族人口增长率:19.82%
Uighurs are China's number one fastest growing ethnic group, from 2000-2010 Uighurs population growth is 19.82%, highest in China. Ethnic Koreans are the lowest in growth rate in China.
 
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  • Published at 12:30 pm July 19th, 2018
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The crackdown continues / REUTERS
On the issue of China’s Uighur people, all are silent

Pakistan is an Islamic Republic, and over the last decades, its polity has become increasingly religious in its character.

Religious rhetoric has long motivated the more extreme edges of the political discourse, but more and more of the political discourse in the country has become driven by religious identity politics -- and conservative Sunni traditionalism has been the most politically outspoken of those religious identities.

The other most significant and consistent political development in Pakistan over the last decade or so has been the flourishing friendship with neighbouring China.

As an emerging global power, China is using its immense economic might to develop the trade links on which its prosperity depends.

And part of those efforts are the huge investments China is making in developing the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor.

The Chinese friendship is a remarkable aspect of Pakistani politics for at least two reasons: 1) It is one of the few issues on which most of this deeply divided country can agree on, and virtually all think it is a good thing for Pakistan; and 2) Chinese investment has done, is doing, and will continue to do more to improve the economic situation of ordinary Pakistani citizens than just about anything the Pakistani government themselves are doing -- that Pakistanis see China in a positive light is therefore no surprise.

And yet, there is something very peculiar about this friendship: The Chinese government is virulently anti-Muslim, at least as far as Islam within its borders is concerned. Here I speak of the familiar troubles of the Sunni Uighur people in the Xinjiang province.

Even as we speak, the Chinese crackdown on Islam in the name of anti-separatism is seeing maybe as many as one million Muslims arbitrarily detained in “re-education camps” -- out of 10-11 million Uighurs in total in the province.

Uighur newborns may not have “Muslim names,” and the authorities were even pressuring Muslims to show their loyalty toward the Chinese state by eating pork and drinking alcohol during Ramadan last year.

Typically outspoken

The Pakistani government, as well as the Pakistani people, are typically very outspoken when Muslims around the world are persecuted.

The poor relations with India are supposedly because of the way India is treating Muslims in Kashmir, or how Muslims have been attacked by mobs of Hindu nationalists in recent months.

Pakistanis will not waste a second criticizing Myanmar for their appalling treatment of the Rohingya -- and rightly so. The cause of the Palestinians is loudly proclaimed, as are those of Chechens, Bosniaks, and Albanians. But on the Uighurs, all are silent.


So what about Muslim solidarity? Muslim solidarity certainly makes for a good and popular slogan for political leaders. And the people are all in favour of solidarity, so long as this requires little sacrifice on their part.

But when more than kind words are needed, well, things get complicated. The 350,000 Rohingya living in Pakistan may not be under immediate threat to their safety, but they have not been integrated in Pakistani society, and continue to be actively marginalized.

We are all for Palestinians, Chechens, or any other Muslim groups around the world, just so long as we do not have to give them refuge, or significant amount of aid. As for the Uighurs next door? Well, let us not upset our “all weather” Chinese friends.

What the Chinese government is doing to the Uighurs is no doubt a gross humanitarian abuse. And it is not just for Pakistan, but the entire international community to draw attention to it and to criticize it.

We even have a duty to do so to our Chinese friends in the spirit of friendship: We know from our own experience that oppressed Muslims sometimes tend to make for radicalized Muslims, and that is not good for China, not good for us, and not good for anybody.

But I do understand the reticence to take up this issue. China does not usually take advice on human rights well, even when it is well-intentioned and friendly in spirit.

But if that is the political judgment we are going to make, then let us not pretend that Muslim solidarity is all that important for us. At the very least, it seems that Chinese Yuan are more important.

But really, we all know Muslim solidarity is great just so long as it does not cost us anything in general. Pakistan may have started as a country of refuge for Muslims across the region, but Muslim solidarity is something we have stopped actually caring about long ago.

Now it is but an empty political ritual for sale. But woe to anyone who would say as much, or question our Muslim purity.

Azeem Ibrahim is Senior Fellow at the Centre for Global Policy and Adj Research Professor at the Strategic Studies Institute, US Army War College. He tweets @AzeemIbrahim.

https://www.dhakatribune.com/opinion/op-ed/2018/07/19/pakistan-s-muslim-solidarity-disappears
Its Dhaka Tribune, not a Pakistani newspaper.

Secondly Pakistanis treat whatever happens in other countries as their internal affairs.

Pakistanis do not care about Palestine. The Pakistanis government does not care about Palestine.

Palestine is not our problem. The Uighur issue in China is China's internal affair.

End of discussion.
 
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