Pakistan’s Muslim solidarity disappears

[haidian]

Turkish people are NOT Mongolian.

Where did Turks come from? You are not going to deny your own history, are you?

 

[HariPrasad]

Madrassa history certainly seems to be far more accurate than RSS history, judging by the crap Hindustanis spew on this forum.

Ya, that is right and that is why I have seen Hasan Nisar, Parwez Hudboy , Nazam shetty and many other discussing the madrasa version of history and praising them like anything. Aap jaise logo ke liye to Hasan Nisar kahate hai ki "Jo tarik ko mask karte hai Tarik unhe hi mask kar deti hai" . So enjoy your madrasa history. It is a great history because it provides a lot of liberty to believe whatever suites to your wishful thinking. I wish that more and more your brethren enlight themselves with your Madrasa Version of history.

 

[Attila the Hun]

Turks and Mongols are closely related, they come from a common ancestor.

I have a question for you. Since Pakistanis do not care for Uighurs... should Turks not care for Kashmir also??

Its no bother for me.

Where did Turks come from? You are not going to deny your own history, are you?

Turks are NOT Mongols. That's all you need to know.

 

[Kuru]

Since Pakistanis do not care for Uighurs... should Turks not care for Kashmir also??

I personally feel that Pakistanis do care for Uighurs , but are scared of China because China is their only hope of survival at this time. So Pakistanis have no other option but to keep mum about it.

 

[Attila the Hun]

I personally feel that Pakistanis do care for Uighurs , but are scared of China because China is their only hope of survival at this time. So Pakistanis have no other option but to keep mum about it.

Have a re-read of this thread. The Pakistanis say they do not care for Uighurs.
The Pakistanis are NOT scared of China or whatever you're trying to imply. lol.

It's time Turks do the same. we shouldn't care for Kashmir either.

Heck, there're even some on here that want Kurdistan in Turkey.

 

[Kuru]

Have a re-read of this thread. The Pakistanis say they do not care for Uighurs.
The Pakistanis are NOT scared of China or whatever you're trying to imply. lol.

I mean.. they don't want to upset China because China is providing loans for a lot of development works there. China also provided some much needed cash just recently for Pakistan to avoid bankruptcy.

It's time Turks do the same. we shouldn't care for Kashmir either.

It's a welcome step really. The international relations should be based on reciprocating actions. Not to mention this will improve your relationship with India.

Heck, there're even some on here that want Kurdistan in Turkey.

This.

This is what I'm talking about. Pakistanis may end up supporting Kurdistan movement because they can take the risk to upset Turkey, Iran, Syria or Iraq. But they simply can't do it when it comes to China. Of course it's my personal guess but that's what it seems like.

 

[haidian]

Have a re-read of this thread. The Pakistanis say they do not care for Uighurs.
The Pakistanis are NOT scared of China or whatever you're trying to imply. lol.

It's time Turks do the same. we shouldn't care for Kashmir either.

See, it's never a religious problem, just as I said, it's an ethnic problem, Turkish only care about Turks but not other Muslims, they have no troulbe slaughtering millions of Kurdish Muslims

 

[Hamza913]

I have a question for you. Since Pakistanis do not care for Uighurs... should Turks not care for Kashmir also??

Its no bother for me.

Who said we don't care about Uighurs? I care VERY much about them, and openly criticise China for acting against them.

You don't have to care about Kashmir, care means nothing. Action is what is needed for places like Kashmir, Palestine, Burma and Xinjiang, not words. Give as much Zakat as you can.

Hasan Nisar, Parwez Hudboy , Nazam shetty

No wonder you're so lost, you listen to these jokers!

 

[AfrazulMandal]

Who said we don't care about Uighurs? I care VERY much about them, and openly criticise China for acting against them.

You don't have to care about Kashmir, care means nothing. Action is what is needed for places like Kashmir, Palestine, Burma and Xinjiang, not words. Give as much Zakat as you can.

Action is needed in entire India. Not only Kashmir.
Dua, zakat both are needed.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

See, it's never a religious problem, just as I said, it's an ethnic problem, Turkish only care about Turks but not other Muslims, they have no troulbe slaughtering millions of Kurdish Muslims

Turkey has a conflict with the Kurds but they havn't "slaughtered a million Kurds". Neither have the Chinese killed millions of Uighurs. You are making the Turks and Chinese sound like sikhs killing a million Muslims in August 1947. That is completely false and inaccurate.

Action is needed in entire India. Not only Kashmir.
Dua, zakat both are needed.

If action is needed then why don't you do anything about it? No good complaining on PDF. Why don't you people go out and take REAL action?. You're starting to sound like those indian retards on PDF who claim india is a superpower and that indians invented the internet 10,000 years ago............

 

[denel]

• Published at 12:30 pm July 19th, 2018

The crackdown continues / REUTERS
On the issue of China’s Uighur people, all are silent

Pakistan is an Islamic Republic, and over the last decades, its polity has become increasingly religious in its character.

Religious rhetoric has long motivated the more extreme edges of the political discourse, but more and more of the political discourse in the country has become driven by religious identity politics -- and conservative Sunni traditionalism has been the most politically outspoken of those religious identities.

The other most significant and consistent political development in Pakistan over the last decade or so has been the flourishing friendship with neighbouring China.

As an emerging global power, China is using its immense economic might to develop the trade links on which its prosperity depends.

And part of those efforts are the huge investments China is making in developing the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor.

The Chinese friendship is a remarkable aspect of Pakistani politics for at least two reasons: 1) It is one of the few issues on which most of this deeply divided country can agree on, and virtually all think it is a good thing for Pakistan; and 2) Chinese investment has done, is doing, and will continue to do more to improve the economic situation of ordinary Pakistani citizens than just about anything the Pakistani government themselves are doing -- that Pakistanis see China in a positive light is therefore no surprise.

And yet, there is something very peculiar about this friendship: The Chinese government is virulently anti-Muslim, at least as far as Islam within its borders is concerned. Here I speak of the familiar troubles of the Sunni Uighur people in the Xinjiang province.

Even as we speak, the Chinese crackdown on Islam in the name of anti-separatism is seeing maybe as many as one million Muslims arbitrarily detained in “re-education camps” -- out of 10-11 million Uighurs in total in the province.

Uighur newborns may not have “Muslim names,” and the authorities were even pressuring Muslims to show their loyalty toward the Chinese state by eating pork and drinking alcohol during Ramadan last year.

Typically outspoken

The Pakistani government, as well as the Pakistani people, are typically very outspoken when Muslims around the world are persecuted.

The poor relations with India are supposedly because of the way India is treating Muslims in Kashmir, or how Muslims have been attacked by mobs of Hindu nationalists in recent months.

Pakistanis will not waste a second criticizing Myanmar for their appalling treatment of the Rohingya -- and rightly so. The cause of the Palestinians is loudly proclaimed, as are those of Chechens, Bosniaks, and Albanians. But on the Uighurs, all are silent.

So what about Muslim solidarity? Muslim solidarity certainly makes for a good and popular slogan for political leaders. And the people are all in favour of solidarity, so long as this requires little sacrifice on their part.

But when more than kind words are needed, well, things get complicated. The 350,000 Rohingya living in Pakistan may not be under immediate threat to their safety, but they have not been integrated in Pakistani society, and continue to be actively marginalized.

We are all for Palestinians, Chechens, or any other Muslim groups around the world, just so long as we do not have to give them refuge, or significant amount of aid. As for the Uighurs next door? Well, let us not upset our “all weather” Chinese friends.

What the Chinese government is doing to the Uighurs is no doubt a gross humanitarian abuse. And it is not just for Pakistan, but the entire international community to draw attention to it and to criticize it.

We even have a duty to do so to our Chinese friends in the spirit of friendship: We know from our own experience that oppressed Muslims sometimes tend to make for radicalized Muslims, and that is not good for China, not good for us, and not good for anybody.

But I do understand the reticence to take up this issue. China does not usually take advice on human rights well, even when it is well-intentioned and friendly in spirit.

But if that is the political judgment we are going to make, then let us not pretend that Muslim solidarity is all that important for us. At the very least, it seems that Chinese Yuan are more important.

But really, we all know Muslim solidarity is great just so long as it does not cost us anything in general. Pakistan may have started as a country of refuge for Muslims across the region, but Muslim solidarity is something we have stopped actually caring about long ago.

Now it is but an empty political ritual for sale. But woe to anyone who would say as much, or question our Muslim purity.

Azeem Ibrahim is Senior Fellow at the Centre for Global Policy and Adj Research Professor at the Strategic Studies Institute, US Army War College. He tweets @AzeemIbrahim.

https://www.dhakatribune.com/opinion/op-ed/2018/07/19/pakistan-s-muslim-solidarity-disappears

Well written and to the point.