Pakistan's Loss: A Disaster or a Blessing

[khail007]

Gentlemen, move on, both nations are happy what they achieved; it is win-win situation for both.
Don’t let past to be hurdle for future, it will only hurt each other. Good wishes to Bangladesh. Prosperous and developed Bangladesh (Ameen).

 

[Homo Sapiens]

While Islamabad is nice, I can't fathom how a planned capital city akin to Washington D.C. (albeit at a smaller scale) help the economy of Pakistan other than a few elite group of people? In my mind all it would be is a place where the elite would sequester themselves from the real situation of the populace....

Islamabad is a place, poor and middle class Pakistani can't afford to live.It is a showpiece city off limit of average Pakistani people.I would have felt shame if any such city existed in Bangladesh.
Islamabad — a city only for the rich?
https://www.dawn.com/news/1095012

 

[SHAH820]

Islamabad is a place, poor and middle class Pakistani can't afford to live.It is a showpiece city off limit of average Pakistani people.I would have felt shame if any such city existed in Bangladesh.
Islamabad — a city only for the rich?
https://www.dawn.com/news/1095012

please a higher middle class people have more then 60 million rupees there are flats in karachi which are more expensive then big Bungalow in islamabad. islamabad is beautiful and small thats why its prices are high, there are also middle class people living in Islamabad and a person with 50 million rupees is call higher middle class not elite in pakistan population about 15% of population is elite 61% is middle class(data will change after census) compare to BD 20% middle class and only 1-3% elite class
https://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthr...-Class-Sizes-in-Bangladesh-India-and-Pakistan
sorry for pakistani site i usually use unbiased source but it uses data from WB and ADB and it is confirmed from other sites as well
islamabad is second most beautiful capital in the world when you achieve this title then come back to cry
and please learn about free float market and how property value increases or decreases
second go to London or new York then cry about their property prices

 

[Bilal9]

please a higher middle class people have more then 60 million rupees there are flats in karachi which are more expensive then big Bungalow in islamabad. islamabad is beautiful and small thats why its prices are high, there are also middle class people living in Islamabad and a person with 50 million rupees is call higher middle class not elite in pakistan population about 15% of population is elite 61% is middle class(data will change after census) compare to BD 20% middle class and only 1-3% elite class
https://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthr...-Class-Sizes-in-Bangladesh-India-and-Pakistan
sorry for pakistani site i usually use unbiased source but it uses data from WB and ADB and it is confirmed from other sites as well
islamabad is second most beautiful capital in the world when you achieve this title then come back to cry
and please learn about free float market and how property value increases or decreases
second go to London or new York then cry about their property prices

It's a little strange about talk of elitism coming from a South Asian nation.

Really now.

 

[SHAH820]

It's a little strange about talk of elitism coming from a South Asian nation.

Really now.

it is also strange to see things

may be in BD but not in pakistan

 

[Bilal9]

it is also strange to see things

may be in BD but not in pakistan

Actually I should have withheld my sarcasm.

I am a fan of a few elite themes as well, you might enjoy a couple of my threads,

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/restaurants-in-dhaka.338723/page-24#post-9286432

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/bangladeshi-fashion.389286/page-112

Regarding sports cars, they are popular. In spite of 800% duty.

We are getting a little OT in here though. Last post on this topic...

SLK

RR Ghost

Porsche 718 Boxster

Tesla Model S

BENTLEY BENTAYGA W12 6L Twin Turbo

Audi R8 Revolution

They race these things on abandoned airfields.....

BMW i8

BMW 750 iL

 

[Kabira]

He made some good points. Imagine half dozen million of "illegal Pakistanis" working like slaves at homes of Indians.

The old Pakistan was an artificial entity that had outlasted it's usefulness well before 1971.

The only tragic thing about the separation was that it was not peaceful.

While Pakistan is a tribal culture, BD is a unitary state where the state comes before anything else.

Current BD GDP/capita growth of 6% per annum when compared to 3% for Pakistan should tell everyone how much better off BD is without having Pakistan.

Hmm Pakistan GDP growth rate is near 5%, not 3%.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

MM Alam was Bihari.

You can't call him Bihari,His parent was Bihari but migrated to Calcutta.MM Alam was born there and spoke fluent Bangla.After partition he moved to East Bengal,remain here up until 1971.Then he moved west Pakistan.Anyone who born in Bengal and speak Bangla is Bengali.So you can call him Pakistani with Bengali heritage.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

You can't call him Bihari,His parent was Bihari but migrated to Calcutta.MM Alam was born there and spoke fluent Bangla.After partition he moved to East Bengal,remain here up until 1971.Then he moved west Pakistan.Anyone who born in Bengal and speak Bangla is Bengali.So you can call him Pakistani with Bengali heritage.

Really? So If a Pakistani is born in Bengal he's bangali or Bangladeshi?

Ironic how even Biharis born in Bangladesh after 71 are treated so inhumanely.

Heck you people don't even help your rohingya kin yet you want to associate yourself with a Pakistani patriot and a war hero whose family once lived in east Pakistan?

How about the Pakistani member Shaheen missile, whose grandfather and uncles lived in east Pak and yet were butchered by mukti terrorists?

 

[Homo Sapiens]

Really? So If a Pakistani is born in Bengal he's bangali or Bangladeshi?

Ironic how even Biharis born in Bangladesh after 71 are treated so inhumanely.

Heck you people don't even help your rohingya kin yet you want to associate yourself with a Pakistani patriot and a war hero whose family once lived in east Pakistan?

How about the Pakistani member Shaheen missile, whose grandfather and uncles lived in east Pak and yet were butchered by mukti terrorists?

Bihar and Bengal are close neighboring state.Like Scotland and England.If a Scottish couple move to England,give birth a child who speak English and grow up in England,will not be he English by nationality?Same case with MM Alam.Resident of close neighboring state like Bihari and Bengali, these term have only meaning as a language,culture and resident place.If a bihari move to Bengal,adopt Bangla language and culture then He is Bengali as there is no perceptible ethnic/racial difference.It would be more difficult of a person who have different ethnic/racial background than bengali like European,Chinese etc.They may have to blend several generation to become indistinguishable from Bengali.

 

[SHAH820]

Actually I should have withheld my sarcasm.

I am a fan of a few elite themes as well, you might enjoy a couple of my threads,

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/restaurants-in-dhaka.338723/page-24#post-9286432

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/bangladeshi-fashion.389286/page-112

Regarding sports cars, they are popular. In spite of 800% duty.

We are getting a little OT in here though. Last post on this topic...

SLK

RR Ghost

Porsche 718 Boxster

Tesla Model S

BENTLEY BENTAYGA W12 6L Twin Turbo

Audi R8 Revolution

They race these things on abandoned airfields.....

BMW i8

BMW 750 iL

please get back to the topic if you want to post these thing go and post it on those threads which relates its topic

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/malls-in-pakistan.429504/
luxury cars in pakistan are common in higher middle class population a man can easily afford brands like audi ,bmw,mercedes which are common
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1013407/not-so-rare-the-high-end-luxury-cars-in-pakistan/ (thats why brands like Audi BMW are setting plants along side other manufacturers go and visit the page about incoming brand in pakistan)
or refer to this page
https://www.facebook.com/SuperrCarsInPakistan/
now get back to topic
as i already told you in pakistan people have more cars then bikes in BD
Pakistan BD
15% elite 1-3% elite
61% middle class 20% middle class
12% in poverty 39% in poverty

you are the same person who was crying about property prices in pakistan are high
you are not more then a troll

 

[TopCat]

please get back to the topic if you want to post these thing go and post it on those threads which relates its topic

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/malls-in-pakistan.429504/
luxury cars in pakistan are common in higher middle class population a man can easily afford brands like audi ,bmw,mercedes which are common
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1013407/not-so-rare-the-high-end-luxury-cars-in-pakistan/ (thats why brands like Audi BMW are setting plants along side other manufacturers go and visit the page about incoming brand in pakistan)
or refer to this page
https://www.facebook.com/SuperrCarsInPakistan/
now get back to topic
as i already told you in pakistan people have more cars then bikes in BD
Pakistan BD
15% elite 1-3% elite
61% middle class 20% middle class
12% in poverty 39% in poverty

you are the same person who was crying about property prices in pakistan are high
you are not more then a troll

BD will beat you hands down when it comes to rickshaw.
Human hauled vehicles are the main hindrance for the growth of motorized vehicles. There are almost no privately owned cars except motor cycle outside Dhaka and Chittagong. its a big Zero..................

 

[Homo Sapiens]

Pakistan BD
15% elite 1-3% elite
61% middle class 20% middle class
12% in poverty 39% in poverty

Where did you get this bullsht data? Who count the number of elite? Your poverty percentage is wrong and outdated.Only reliable poverty measurement is 1.90 dollar international poverty thresh hold.In 2010,the most recent we can compare between Pakistan and Bangladesh,population below poverty line was-
Bangladesh-18.5% (2010)
Pakistan-8.3% (2010)
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SI.POV.DDAY?locations=BD
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SI.POV.DDAY?end=2013&locations=PK&start=1987
This gap narrowed farther in the last 7 years as BD's GDP grown quicker than Pakistan.So there is very little difference now between BD and Pakistan.

 

[SHAH820]

Where did you get this bullsht data? Who count the number of elite? Your poverty percentage is wrong and outdated.Only reliable poverty measurement is 1.90 dollar international poverty thresh hold.In 2010,the most recent we can compare between Pakistan and Bangladesh,population below poverty line was-
Bangladesh-18.5% (2010)
Pakistan-8.3% (2010)
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SI.POV.DDAY?locations=BD
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SI.POV.DDAY?end=2013&locations=PK&start=1987
This gap narrowed farther in the last 7 years as BD's GDP grown quicker than Pakistan.So there is very little difference now between BD and Pakistan.

please read your own site first then talk you people are just big troll
the site you give which state BD 18.5%2010 compare to pakistan 6.1% in 2013 according to the site there should be no poverty in pakistan till now cause
1987 pakistan poverty in about 62% compare to 1983 38% of BD
now 2013 pakistan poverty is 6.1%(compare the gap) comnpare to 2010 18%

so there should be no poverty in pakistan as pakistan have filled a large gap compare to BD and mega project like CPEC are running

i use https://www.adb.org/countries/bangladesh/poverty and https://www.adb.org/countries/pakistan/poverty

even the site you are sending are saying pakistan is better

 

[UKBengali]

He made some good points. Imagine half dozen million of "illegal Pakistanis" working like slaves at homes of Indians.

Hmm Pakistan GDP growth rate is near 5%, not 3%.

I am talking about GDP capita and not GDP growth.

Take away 2.1% of population growth and Pakistan GDP/capita growth is 3% a year.