Pakistanis and Indians Are Not The Same

[ADT]

When did Pakistanis became "Arabs"? Only a very small minority maybe... Don't link us with semitic people..

If you or your family never converted since the inception of Islam or lets say for at least 5 generations, then you are more than likely of Arab origin.

 

[jaunty]

Oh one more "we are not the same" thread. A potential "Pakistanis are beautiful and Indians are ugly" thread.

 

[ADT]

When did Pakistanis became "Arabs"? Only a very small minority maybe... Don't link us with semitic people..

I know there is hatred between Pakistanis and Arabs, and Iranians and Arabs, Indonesians and Arabs, because of mistreatment during the Hajj, but the true roots of "original" Pakistanis and Iranians are Arab.

Lets say if Pakistan did not have true Arab roots you really think the Saudi's would asked us to protect the Kabba during the 1970's and and during the first Gulf War? Think about it, you know how much prejudice the Saudi's have.

 

[jinxeD_girl]

40% Pakistanis of Iranic descent look nothing like Indians...

Kohistani and Pashtun kids

Homepage of Vladimir Dinets-Pakistan part 3

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Gilgiti Girl


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Baloch Man

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Many Pakistani Punjabis (especially Northern Punjabis), dont look like ur average Indian either...

http://img90.imageshack.us/i/pakigirls2.jpg/

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and here are your Average Indians

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[jinxeD_girl]

I know there is hatred between Pakistanis and Arabs, and Iranians and Arabs, Indonesians and Arabs, because of mistreatment during the Hajj, but the true roots of "original" Pakistanis and Iranians are Arab.

Lets say if Pakistan did not have true Arab roots you really think the Saudi's would asked us to protect the Kabba during the 1970's and and during the first Gulf War? Think about it, you know how much prejudice the Saudi's have.

Dude for God's sake you need to do some research... Pakistanis and Iranians are not Arab lol....

 

[gen x]

yes Pakistani and Indian are not same one has green blood and other has red

what a stupid thing

 

[jinxeD_girl]

Kashmiris look nothing like Indians either... thats why they should separate from India lol!!

http://img246.imageshack.us/i/orphans.jpg/

 

[Spring Onion]

To ADT


If you are willing to talk about original ascendants, then you should also consider the fact that you are originally descendants of the present day Hindu sect because no civilization is older than the Aryans as no known literature work dates back as far as those created under the "Hindu" regime.

Hindus are not Aryans. get over your complex and stop disowining your roots by claiming that Hindus were Aryans.

 

[jinxeD_girl]

Hindus are not Aryans. get over your complex and stop disowining your roots by claiming that Hindus were Aryans.

 

[ADT]

Dude for God's sake you need to do some research... Pakistanis and Iranians are not Arab lol....

You fail to take in the entire history of these countries and are only looking at the short term.

 

[Spring Onion]

Oh one more "we are not the same" thread. A potential "Pakistanis are beautiful and Indians are ugly" thread.

Its not about Beautiful or Ugly.


Its just that some do share same bloodline from both sides while majority Pakistanis do not share the same bloodline with Indians.

You can find some with same ancestory in Pakistani Punjab but rest of the parts of Pakistan does not share much with Indians.

 

[ADT]

yes Pakistani and Indian are not same one has green blood and other has red

what a stupid thing

Its like Hitler did during WWII, keep saying it and eventually it will be true. Its apparent, you fell into this mindset.

 

[Spring Onion]

I know there is hatred between Pakistanis and Arabs, and Iranians and Arabs, Indonesians and Arabs, because of mistreatment during the Hajj, but the true roots of "original" Pakistanis and Iranians are Arab.

Lets say if Pakistan did not have true Arab roots you really think the Saudi's would asked us to protect the Kabba during the 1970's and and during the first Gulf War? Think about it, you know how much prejudice the Saudi's have.

NO not all of Pakistan is Arab.


If you come towards NWFP you will different bloodline though some do share Arab roots. Balochistan also has a different chemistery, Sindh again.


I failed to understand why some people claim that Pakistanis are Arab

 

[policecontrolroom]

Quick history


3000 - 1500 BC

Indus Civilization.
1700 BC

Aryans invade from Central Asia.
516 BC

Northern Pakistan becomes the easternmost province of the Achaemenid Empire of Persia.
327 - 325 BC

Alexander the Great invades Pakistan.
272 - 236 BC

Mauryan Emperor Ashoka promotes Buddhism.
185 BC

Bactrian Greeks conquer northwest Pakistan.
75 BC

Arrival of Scythians (Sakas) from Central Asia.
20 AD

Parthians conquer northern Pakistan.
60 AD

Kushans from Central Asia overthrow the Parthians.
3rd Century

Kushans decline and are dominated by the Sassanian Empire of Persia
4th Century

Kidar (Little) Kushans come to power.
445

White Huns invade Gandhara and are converted to Hinduism, possibly as the Rajput warrior caste.
565

Sassanians and Turks overthrow Huns.
Late 6th - 7th Century

Turki Shahis control area west of Indus, including Gandhara.
711

Mohammad Bin Qasim conquers Sindh and southern Punjab
870

Hindu Shahis arrive from Central Asia
1001 - 26

Mahmud of Ghaznavi invades.
Mass conversions to Islam.
1034 -1337

Sindh ruled by Sumrahs, a Sindhi tribe
1150

Mohammad Ghuri destroys the Kingdome of Mahmud Ghaznavi.
1194

Mohammad Ghuri makes Delhi the capital of the empire
1206 - 1526 Delhi Sultanate

Delhi Sultanate established by Ilbari Dynasty
At the time of Muhammd Ghuri's death in 1206 (had no sons), Qutbuddin Aibak was in Lahore, where he assumed the sovereign powers as he was elected Sultan by the Amirs. The assumption of sovereign powers by Qutbuddin Aibak in 1206 is regarded as the foundation of the Sultanate Delhi.
1221

The Mongol, Genghiz Khan invades Punjab
1290-1320 Khalji Dynasty

Marks the end of the Turks rule.
Among the Khaljis, Alauddin Khalji (1296-1316) reign is known for revenue reforms, market regulations and conquests.
1320-1412 Tuqhluq Dynasty

Tuqhluq were from 'Qarauna Turk' tribe.
Sultan Ghiyasuddin Tughluq Shah (Ghazi Malik) founder of third dynasty of the Sultanate.
Among the Tughluq dynastry, Mohammad Tughluq and Firuz Tughluq are most popular.
1337

Sammah Rajputs overthrow the Sumrahs in Sindh
1398-9

Tamerlane invades from Central Asia
1414-51 The Saiyids

Khizr Khan was the founder of the Saiyid dynasty.
Alauddin Alam Shah was the last ruler.
1451-1526 The Lodhis

Lodhis were Afghans
Bahlol Lodhi was the founder of this dynasty.
The last Lodhi Sultan, Ibrahim Ladhi (1517-26) was killed by Babur in the first battle of Panipat.
1526

The Sultanate of Delhi ended.
Babur defeats the Lodis, the last of the Delhi sultans, and establishes the Mughal Empire.
Tarkhans capture power in Sindh.
1524

Babur, first Mughal emperor, rais Punjab
Sindh conquered by Shah Beg Arghun from Kandahar.
Amir Chakar Rind unites Balochi tribes and defeats Sammahs.
1527 - 1857 The Mughal Empire

Zahiruddin Mohammad Babur son of Umar Shaikh Mirza -- The first Mughal Emeror (1526-30) and founder of the Mughal empire in India.
March 16 -- A decisive battle took place with Rana Songa of Mewar, a powerful Rajput prince.
Babur's autobiography Tuzuk-i-Bauri (Babur Namah) written in Turki.
1530

December 26 -- Babur died in Agra.
Humyun become the Mughal emperor.
Humayun reign 1530, 40, 1555-6.
1540

Suri Dynasty (1540-55)
Sher Shah Suri defeated Humayun in the battles of Chausa and Kanauj and became the emperor.
Humayun is forced into exile in Persia by Sher Shah Suri.
1545

Death of Sher Shah Suri.
1555

Humayun regains empire.
1556

Akbar, son of Humayun, is emperor (1556-1605)
Humayun died after falling from his library (Sher Mandil) stairs.
Thirteen years old Humayun's son Akbar becomes the emperor.
Akbar is famous for his liberal policies especially towards non-Muslims.
Akbar contributed greatly in Indian music. Tansen was the most accomplished musician of that days.
1527

Jahangir is emperor (1605-27)
After Akbar, his son Salim becomes emperor. Salim took the title of Jehagir (Conqueror of the world).
Jehangir's reign consider be the peak of Mughal rule (and his son's reign).
1528

Sha Jahan is emperor (1627-59)
After Jehangir, his son Khurram becomes the empror of Mughal emperor. Khurram took the title of Shah Jehan (Emperor of the World)
The Mughal Empire was at its zenith during Shah Jehan's rule.
1583

Queen Elizabeth I dispatched the ship Tyger to the sub-continent to exploit opportunities for trade.
1614

The British East India Company opens its first office in Bombay.
1658

Aurangzeb Alamgir is emperor (1658-1707).
Sikhs organize as a warrior sect.
1707

Aurangzeb Alamgir died.
His death regards as the beginning of the end of Mughal empires.
Aurangzeb Alamgir's son bahadur Shah Zafar becomes the last emperor of Mughal dynastry.
1736

Founding of Kalhora Dynasty in Sindh
1739

Nadir Shah of Persia invades the subcontinent.
1747-73

Ahmad Shah Durrani founds the Kingdom of Afghanistan and acquires Indus territories, Punjab and Kashmir.
1757

The battle of Plassey is considered a major breakthrough for the Britishers in the Subcontinent.
1707 - 1762

Shah wali Ullah's Reform Movement.
1760-1830

Sikhs become dominate force in Pubjab.
1789

Talpur Balochis overthrow Kalhora Dynazty in Sindh
1799-1839

Ranjit Singh rules Punjab from Lahore.
1830

Faraizi Movement (1830-57)
1843

British annex Sindh.
First British-Afghan War
1845-6

First British-Sikh War
1848-9

The British defeat the Sikhs in Second Sikh War, annex Punjab and NWFP
1857

First War of Independence (Mutiny)
1858

British government assumes direct rule of British East India Company lands, establishes British Raj
Aligarh Movement (1858-98)
1866

Deoband Movement (1866-1947)
1884

Anjuman Himayat-i-Islam, Lahore (1884-1947)
1885

Establishment of Indian National Congress
1887

All districts of Balochistan in British hands
1889

British establish Gilgit Agency
1891

British conquer Hunza and Nagar
1894

Nadva-tul-'Ulama of Lucknow (1894-1947)
1906

December 30 -- The annual meeting of Mohammadan Educational Conference held at Dacca under the chairmanship of Nawab Viqar ul Mulk. In the meeting Nawab Salim ullah Khan presented a proposal to establish a political party, All India Muslim League, to safeguard the interests of the Muslims.
All India Muslim League founded as forum for Indian Muslim separatism
1916

The Lucknow Pact
1919

The Khilafat Movement (1919-1924)
1930

Mohammad Iqbal proposes creation of separate Muslim state
1940

Lahore Resolution, which endorses idea of separate nation for India's Muslims, to be called Pakistan.
1947

June 3 -- the British Government accepted the idea of partition of India.
July 18 -- The British Parliament passes the Indian Independence Act.
July 19 -- Nawabzada Liaquat Ali Khan (1895-1951) of Muslim League becomes the first Prime Minister.
August 14 -- Birth of Pakistan, consisting of East Bengal, a part of Assam (Sylhet), West Punjab, Sind, NWFP and Baluchistan.
Some 15 million people flee religious persecution, Muslim fleeing to East and West Pakistan, while Hindus flee to India. An estimated one million people are killed in widespread communal violence and millions are made homeless.
Under Section 8 of the Indian Independence Act, 1947, the Government of India Act, 1935 (with certain adaptations) becomes constitution of Pakistan.
August 15 -- Quid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah (1876-1948) of Muslim League becomes first governor-general and Liaquat Ali Khan (1895-1951) of Muslim League becomes the first Prime Minister of the new nation.
1948

 

[kidwaibhai]

another stupid thread about nothing but bull crap. there has been cross migration from many part of the world in our region. dont forget that the silk route ran through pakistan. we are a little bit of every thing.

it is strange every few months a new member starts almost this exact forum and then start getting ugly. let it go it really doesnt matter.