Pakistani Punjab and Former East punjab

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Yeah Pashtuns and Balochis are mostly Persian/Middle Eastern but Sindhis, Punjabis and even to some extent Kashmiris are related quite strongly to modern North India. I feel like you have some superiority complex towards South Indians. Im not saying we are 'Indian' because India was never a country before 1947 but the majority of Pakistanis and a large minority of Indians do share a lot of culture.

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Pakistani ethnic groups are no doubt more Central Asian and Middle Eastern but most of us are ancestrally rooted in South Asia although I dont know if Afghanistan was counted as South Asia.

And the northern indian groups us Pakistanis have ANY sort of racial connection too is at MOST between 2.5-4% of indian's ENTIRE population. Hardly quintessentially "indian" enough is it?

 

[Tea addict]

Yeah Pashtuns and Balochis are mostly Persian/Middle Eastern but Sindhis, Punjabis and even to some extent Kashmiris are related quite strongly to modern North India. I feel like you have some superiority complex towards South Indians. Im not saying we are 'Indian' because India was never a country before 1947 but the majority of Pakistanis and a large minority of Indians do share a lot of culture.

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Pakistani ethnic groups are no doubt more Central Asian and Middle Eastern but most of us are ancestrally rooted in South Asia although I dont know if Afghanistan was counted as South Asia.

My post was no where related to ethnicity, but its surprising that UP,which has more population than entire Pakistan has same amount of European as punjabis amd sindhi.

And the northern indian groups us Pakistanis have ANY sort of racial connection too is at MOST between 2.5-4% of indian's ENTIRE population. Hardly quintessentially "indian" enough is it?

UP has more population than entire Pakistan, and look at the graph of UP..it doesn't matter this post was for the cultural aspects not ethnic

 

[ZenBird]

My post was no where related to ethnicity, but its surprising that UP,which has more population than entire Pakistan has same amount of European as punjabis amd sindhi.


UP has more population than entire Pakistan, and look at the graph of UP..it doesn't matter this post was for the cultural aspects not ethnic

I don't trust that chart, here is the spreadsheet from hadappa

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l87nGSIYTP-h7m-VKjB-BZcuEoWdz765nU4f_krOdd4/edit#gid=0

If you notice they have a much higher S Indian component.

 

[Tea addict]

I don't trust that chart, here is the spreadsheet from hadappa

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l87nGSIYTP-h7m-VKjB-BZcuEoWdz765nU4f_krOdd4/edit#gid=0

If you notice they have a much higher S Indian component.

I don't either, but i don't want this post to be headed towards ethnic conversation..so just ignored it

 

[ZenBird]

I don't either, but i don't want this post to be headed towards ethnic conversation..so just ignored it

With regards to your OP seems Pakistani Punjab GDP per capita is $1200 and Indian Punjab $2000. Haryana is much better at $2919 Seems to back what you are saying. I've always admired Haryana as a Punjabi who has even lived in Ambala and Panchkula. Your leaders are very development focused, infrastructure is much better than Punjab. You're doing great in sports and contributing more to the Army than Punjab.

 

[Tea addict]

With regards to your OP seems Pakistani Punjab GDP per capita is $1200 and Indian Punjab $2000. Haryana is much better at $2919 Seems to back what you are saying. I've always admired Haryana as a Punjabi who has even lived in Ambala and Panchkula. Your leaders are very development focused, infrastructure is much better than Punjab. You're doing great in sports and contributing more to the Army than Punjab.

Yes bro, we are faring better in these stats but punjab(indian) has much more soft pwer than us haryanvis.. haryanvi till few years back was considered as language of farmers while every teenagers use to sing punjabi songs.
Although we haryanvis are proud of being a community of farmers,soldiers and sportsmens but still we lack soft power.

 

[ZenBird]

Yes bro, we are faring better in these stats but punjab(indian) has much more soft pwer than us haryanvis.. haryanvi till few years back was considered as language of farmers while every teenagers use to sing punjabi songs.
Although we haryanvis are proud of being a community of farmers,soldiers and sportsmens but still we lack soft power.

True, I feel it's mostly due to the influence of Sikhism since our scriptures force kids to regard Punjabi as a first class language due to being written in Punjabi.

 

[Tea addict]

True, I feel it's mostly due to the influence of Sikhism since our scriptures force kids to regard Punjabi as a first class language due to being written in Punjabi.

Haryanvis dont consider our language to be second class, lol we are called egoistic because we speak it with too much pride
I was talking about rest of india ,like consider Mumbai..there punjabi represent "cool" and Haryanvi represent "gao wala".
And i am not even talking about how girls find haryanvi language annoying

 

[Kabira]

Lol Pakistani Punjabis and Indian Punjabis are similar to other North Indian groups theres no point denying it. Im Pakistani but its quite sad how many of us try to distance ourselves from Indian ancestry. A lot of Pakistani Punjabis are from Pashtun and Kashmiri descent though.

I didnt know Haryana and other states comprised East Punjab as well though. They and Delhiites look quite similar to Pakistani Punjabis.

Yeah muhajirs and punjabis look same. Now seriously majority of people in Delhi are like muhajirs and actual Pakistanis are well aware of how each ethnic group look on "average" in Pakistan unless one is trolling.

 

[ZenBird]

I was talking about rest of india ,like consider Mumbai..there punjabi represent "cool" and Haryanvi represent "gao wala".

haha I get infuriated when I see these Mumbai/Delhi people butcher the Punjabi language. I doubt girls will find rustic Punjabi any better than Haryanvi.

 

[Tea addict]

haha I get infuriated when I see these Mumbai/Delhi people butcher the Punjabi language. I doubt girls will find rustic Punjabi any better than Haryanvi.

That's true, but very few people like to speak punjabi in a pind tone or "rusty" and Punjabi do have some soft power which make it "classy" for most indians... due to Bollywood, bettet music industry and lots of foreign punjabi bringing in talent to punjabi entertainment industry.

 

[ZenBird]

That's true, but very few people like to speak punjabi in a pind tone or "rusty" and Punjabi do have some soft power which make it "classy" for most indians... due to Bollywood, bettet music industry and lots of foreign punjabi bringing in talent to punjabi entertainment industry.

On that score I think both Indian Punjabis and Haryanvis are doing better than Pakistanis. We both speak our respective languages with pride while Pakistanis seem to be disregarding Punjabi in favor of Urdu.

 

[Kabira]

With regards to your OP seems Pakistani Punjab GDP per capita is $1200

Pakistan per capita was $1561 for fiscal year 2015-2016, considiring punjab does better then others my guess is Pak punjab per capita will be abour $1800.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1108913/par-performance-pakistans-per-capita-income-rises-slightly-1561/

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Lmao at these Indians. We speak better Punjabi in Pakistan than these diler medhi bhappa taanu Manu Indian doabis.

 

[Kabira]

On that score I think both Indian Punjabis and Haryanvis are doing better than Pakistanis. We both speak our respective languages with pride while Pakistanis seem to be disregarding Punjabi in favor of Urdu.

Pakistanis? You mean Pak punjabis and I agree to extent since punjabi in Pak punjab is not part of school curricula yet. But then you will not hear punjabi in Delhi parliament will you? Unlike in Islamabad parliament

Indian punjabis are on verge on extinction, lets not kid ourselfs. But punjabi will survive in Pakistan till end of times. Sikhs are becoming minority in east punjab.