Pakistan wants to include third-party to resolve Kashmir dispute: PM Nawaz

[अखण्ड भारत!!!]

When it comes to Kashmir, don't expect logic to function. Emotional rants, conspiracies, Hinduphobia and myths rule the day. Truth dies a painful death - many times over.

And the so called 'human rights violation' that is going on against pakistani terrorists is limited to only the terror effected parts of J&K...that is the kashmir valley which 80x10 km...its not in the entire state.Rest of the state is relatively peaceful.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Even Kashmir is peaceful. I can say with honesty - Kashmir is more peaceful than say Bihar.

And the so called 'human rights violation' that is going on against pakistani terrorists is limited to only the terror effected parts of J&K...that is the kashmir valley which 80x10 km...its not in the entire state.Rest of the state is relatively peaceful.

 

[American Pakistani]

I can't help but laugh,accession to India by ruler of kashmir was considered legal,pakistan was asked to move out of so called 'azad' kashmir by un and then referendum was to take place with minimal Indian army garrison alongside un in kashmir.The hypocrisy of pakistan,it just wants referendum in Indian side but never moves out of occupied territory.

It was not considered legal. The Kashmiri people wanted to join Pakistan which dogra had promised them too but later he merge the state with India. And stop talking about hypocrisy as we all know who is world's largest hypocrisy hiding under the title of democracy, why do you guys forget about Indian hypocrisy that it went for refrendum for Junagadh/Manvadar & Hyderabad Deccan but never for Kashmir. Pakistan wants referendum in whole Kashmir including Azad Kashmir but if Indian Occupiers are present in IOK/Maqbooza Kashmir, it is simply stupid to even think that Pakistan will pull out of Azad Kashmir giving way to Indian Occupiers to occupy the liberated part too.

Indian army was more than capable of ousting pakistan army out of kashmir...however nehru showed his stupidity and went to un,who drew up a ceasefire line and Indian army was forced to stop where it was.From 27 oct 1947 Indian army started to push pakistan back of all the key areas, they pushed pakistan out of BARAMULLA,pakistani army were unable to capture SRINAGAR, pakistanis failed in their attempts to seize Ladakh and Leh. Indian army captured the areas of Rajouri & Poonch, we ejected pakistanis from Indus valley till Kargil where we seized Dras valley and Zojila Pass. By the time of ceasefire you had been pushed out of Kargil, Poonch, Gulmarg, Dras and zojila.while pakistan's small successes were achieved in High Himalayas sector even they were halted when they were turned back at Leh in 1948.The one third of kashmir you took over was not from the Indian army please try to understand this, you got it After ceasefire came from the UN RESOLUTION,we were forced to stop where we were.You should be thankful that we respected the resolution unlike you who keep breaking every agreement.

Stop taking too much propaganda dose. If you think Indian Army is "more than capable" then come & get Azad Kashmir...what is stopping you? You were given several reasons but your gutless & b@ll less Occupiers failed to utilize. Your Occupiers were doing their lungi dance only when Pashtun tribes & Kashmiri militias were fighting but Pakistan Army enter later when it saw Indian Occupiers are moving into already liberated parts. Pakistan Army went in to defend the liberated part & stop Indian advancement. Rest all your post is based on fictional propaganda.

You have no document to claim Kashmir.

The letter "K" in Pakistan stands for Kashmir region.

Because what Pakistan and people like you keep trotting out are blatant falsehoods!

Your Occupier Army is falsehood and pathological lairs.

Firstly this figure of 700,000 Indian soldiers in Kashmir that you guys keep harping on is absolute nonsense! This amounts to about 48 infantry/mountain divisions deployed in Kashmir alone!! Preposterous to say the least. But the sheeple swallow this nonsense hook, line and sinker without using their brains!

Accept it or deny it but there are 7 lakh Indian Occupier terrorists present in IOK/Maqbooza Kashmir. Instead of terrorizing innocent Kashmiris they need to GTFO of there.

 

[waz]

India won't listen to this, I don't understand why Nawaz rants on about it.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

my friends call me the "HONEST broker"

I can help resolve the issue as a HONEST broker , party , complete immaterialness and integrity of Swiss watch

 

[OrionHunter]

Accept it or deny it but there are 7 lakh Indian Occupier terrorists present in IOK/Maqbooza Kashmir. Instead of terrorizing innocent Kashmiris they need to GTFO of there.

WTF? You seem to know more than me about my armed forces and their deployments!!

Your nonsensical tripe is getting to be preposterous. The propaganda cocoon you've allowed yourself to be enclosed in, is mind blowing in its scale! With brainwashed kids like you , no wonder your country is where it is today. You're perpetually living in a world of make-believe. Wake up and smell the coffee.

 

[INDIC]

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The letter "K" in Pakistan stands for Kashmir region.

It don't give you any authenticity to your claim on Kashmir.

 

[sarthak]

I don't understand what people mean when they say "resolve" the Kashmir dispute. No side is going to yield a single inch of land. So literally , the only resolution possible is both sides agreeing to stop giving a shit about the whole issue.

 

[अखण्ड भारत!!!]

It was not considered legal. The Kashmiri people wanted to join Pakistan which dogra had promised them too but later he merge the state with India. And stop talking about hypocrisy as we all know who is world's largest hypocrisy hiding under the title of democracy, why do you guys forget about Indian hypocrisy that it went for refrendum for Junagadh/Manvadar & Hyderabad Deccan but never for Kashmir. Pakistan wants referendum in whole Kashmir including Azad Kashmir but if Indian Occupiers are present in IOK/Maqbooza Kashmir, it is simply stupid to even think that Pakistan will pull out of Azad Kashmir giving way to Indian Occupiers to occupy the liberated part too.



Stop taking too much propaganda dose. If you think Indian Army is "more than capable" then come & get Azad Kashmir...what is stopping you? You were given several reasons but your gutless & b@ll less Occupiers failed to utilize. Your Occupiers were doing their lungi dance only when Pashtun tribes & Kashmiri militias were fighting but Pakistan Army enter later when it saw Indian Occupiers are moving into already liberated parts. Pakistan Army went in to defend the liberated part & stop Indian advancement. Rest all your post is based on fictional propaganda.



The letter "K" in Pakistan stands for Kashmir region.



Your Occupier Army is falsehood and pathological lairs.



Accept it or deny it but there are 7 lakh Indian Occupier terrorists present in IOK/Maqbooza Kashmir. Instead of terrorizing innocent Kashmiris they need to GTFO of there.

Go read the UN resolution...it states Accession to India was legal...that is why Indian army was asked to stay...and pakistan had to move its forces out while India keeps minimum forces to maintain law and order and then conduct plebisite alongside UN observers...United Nations Official Document
Oh really kashmir wanted to join pakistan?HAHAHA have any proof?Evidence?Let me state why kashmir did not want to join pakistan.Sheikh Abdullah's state visit to Pakistan in 1964 was seen with a great aspirations in Pakistan, it looked like now Kashmir will be resolved and in Pakistan's favour because pak politicians thought Sheikh being in Indian jail for 11 years will now turn to them.According to pro Pakistan kashmiri K H KHURSHID (jinnah's typewriter from 1944-47)Sheikh was still not changed despite the shabby treatment he recieved at Nehru's hands. AYUB KHAN, BHUTTO were all surprised when Sheikh offered a confederation between India & Pakistan, so all of pakistan's hopes of now attaining Kashmir went as they banked on Sheikh's opposition to India, though Sheikh was not as much of pro India as he was in 1947 but he still held pakistan in same contempt as in 1947, he showed no sign whatsoever to turn towards Pakistan. Furthermore Nehru's death in Delhi aroundabout that time halted the developments of 1964 (I very much doubt pakistan would've acheived much anyway).
In Pakistan your military dictatorship was dismayed at this halt at the same time they felt it is right time for them to start infiltration into Indian held Kashmir, as India was in a weaker position after the events Indo-Sino war 3 years earlier(1962) and now death of nehru. Pakistanis had an obsession of being a martial race in front of Indians, they also started propagating One Pakistani is equal to 10 Indian (in real term of one muslim & 10 Hindus were being used).Your army's suceess at RANN OF KUTCH skirmishes further mobilised the belief Indians have no stomach to fight, so pak army launched OPERATION GIBRALTAR, was designed to infiltrate and mobilise local kashmiris to stand up against India and launch guerilla war. This time you pakistanis were banking on local kashmiri population, it all went awry when the same locals informed Indian government there are large number of Pakistani infiltrators in Kashmir. India captured most of pakistan's infiltarators and as usual pakistan denied any involvement in OPERATION GIBRALTAR.Proves beyond doubt that kashmir did not want to join pakistan and remain in India,while jammu and ladakh areas have always been pro India.

The so called 7 lakh soldiers are only there in kashmir valley which is 80by10 km rest of kashmir,jammu and ladakh is neither militarised nor terrified under attacks from terrorists sent by pakistan.

OHHAHAHAHA....so pakistan's k is for kashmir,huh?Its i must be for India then?Maybe that's why bangladesh broke up because they felt left behind as no word in pakistan had been alloted to them?Just because muslim league itself decided that kashmir would be part of pakistan and therefore put a word does not mean it became a part of pakistan!That was upto British,who gave princely states legally the option of joining either side of remaining independent.J&K's ruler hari singh wanted to remain independent,and only joined J&K with India after threat of losing it to pak.

 

[American Pakistani]

Go read the UN resolution...it states Accession to India was legal...that is why Indian army was asked to stay...and pakistan had to move its forces out while India keeps minimum forces to maintain law and order and then conduct plebisite alongside UN observers...United Nations Official Document
Oh really kashmir wanted to join pakistan?HAHAHA have any proof?Evidence?Let me state why kashmir did not want to join pakistan.Sheikh Abdullah's state visit to Pakistan in 1964 was seen with a great aspirations in Pakistan, it looked like now Kashmir will be resolved and in Pakistan's favour because pak politicians thought Sheikh being in Indian jail for 11 years will now turn to them.According to pro Pakistan kashmiri K H KHURSHID (jinnah's typewriter from 1944-47)Sheikh was still not changed despite the shabby treatment he recieved at Nehru's hands. AYUB KHAN, BHUTTO were all surprised when Sheikh offered a confederation between India & Pakistan, so all of pakistan's hopes of now attaining Kashmir went as they banked on Sheikh's opposition to India, though Sheikh was not as much of pro India as he was in 1947 but he still held pakistan in same contempt as in 1947, he showed no sign whatsoever to turn towards Pakistan. Furthermore Nehru's death in Delhi aroundabout that time halted the developments of 1964 (I very much doubt pakistan would've acheived much anyway).
In Pakistan your military dictatorship was dismayed at this halt at the same time they felt it is right time for them to start infiltration into Indian held Kashmir, as India was in a weaker position after the events Indo-Sino war 3 years earlier(1962) and now death of nehru. Pakistanis had an obsession of being a martial race in front of Indians, they also started propagating One Pakistani is equal to 10 Indian (in real term of one muslim & 10 Hindus were being used).Your army's suceess at RANN OF KUTCH skirmishes further mobilised the belief Indians have no stomach to fight, so pak army launched OPERATION GIBRALTAR, was designed to infiltrate and mobilise local kashmiris to stand up against India and launch guerilla war. This time you pakistanis were banking on local kashmiri population, it all went awry when the same locals informed Indian government there are large number of Pakistani infiltrators in Kashmir. India captured most of pakistan's infiltarators and as usual pakistan denied any involvement in OPERATION GIBRALTAR.Proves beyond doubt that kashmir did not want to join pakistan and remain in India,while jammu and ladakh areas have always been pro India.

Kashmir is illegally occupied by India because it's ruler lie the people & merge the state with India against the aspirations of people. Yes Kashmir wanted & wants to join Pakistan, do you want me to start posting pictures? And stop f@rting with your army taught propaganda...if Pakistan was hypocrite like India it would've back stab India in 1962 when China offered Pakistan to launch attack from the east but instead Pakistani stupid ruler wanted to support India against China. All your rants are good for your Indian mates stop making yourself as a laughing stock here. Operation Gibraltar was a result of Indian aggression in Azad Kashmir...India after loosing to China thought that aggression against Azad Kashmir will be morale booster for Indian troops but it back fired and Pakistan came up with it's own operation gibraltor...later coward Indians attack international border & try to capture Lahore, etc but Pakistan crush them there too making Chawinda a graveyard for Indian tanks. Captured tanks are still in Pakistani Museums.

The so called 7 lakh soldiers are only there in kashmir valley which is 80by10 km rest of kashmir,jammu and ladakh is neither militarised nor terrified under attacks from terrorists sent by pakistan.

Indian Occupier terrorist Army is present in whole IOK/Maqbooza Kashmir. We saw them during recent clash with Kashmiris on Pakistan Independence day.

OHHAHAHAHA....so pakistan's k is for kashmir,huh?Its i must be for India then?Maybe that's why bangladesh broke up because they felt left behind as no word in pakistan had been alloted to them?Just because muslim league itself decided that kashmir would be part of pakistan and therefore put a word does not mean it became a part of pakistan!That was upto British,who gave princely states legally the option of joining either side of remaining independent.J&K's ruler hari singh wanted to remain independent,and only joined J&K with India after threat of losing it to pak.

Stop f@rting like a duffer clown dear Sir. Read some real history not the propaganda taught to you by your Army. "Pakistan" stands for the northwestern regions of subcontinent. Bangladesh was not supposed to be part of actual Pakistan till 1940's. According to 1940's Pakistan resolution, Pakistan was supposed to be Punjab region, Afghania region, Kashmir region, Sind & Balochistan region. Bangladesh & Hyderabad Deccan were supposed to be separate countries.

WTF? You seem to know more than me about my armed forces and their deployments!!

Your nonsensical tripe is getting to be preposterous. The propaganda cocoon you've allowed yourself to be enclosed in, is mind blowing in its scale! With brainwashed kids like you , no wonder your country is where it is today. You're perpetually living in a world of make-believe. Wake up and smell the coffee.

You people are kept unaware & so you people consider your army as "Allah mian ki gaai(cow)"...reality is opposite though.

It don't give you any authenticity to your claim on Kashmir.

It does.

 

[अखण्ड भारत!!!]

Indian Occupier terrorist Army is present in whole IOK/Maqbooza Kashmir. We saw them during recent clash with Kashmiris on Pakistan Independence day.



Stop f@rting like a duffer clown dear Sir. Read some real history not the propaganda taught to you by your Army. "Pakistan" stands for the northwestern regions of subcontinent. Bangladesh was not supposed to be part of actual Pakistan till 1940's. According to 1940's Pakistan resolution, Pakistan was supposed to be Punjab region, Afghania region, Kashmir region, Sind & Balochistan region. Bangladesh & Hyderabad Deccan were supposed to be separate countries.

No,army is not there in whole of the state I used to live there.
That's what muslim league decided...not the British who were in power and legally had the right to decide.And they did not give kashmir to any side but left it to choose which side or remain independent.

 

[ManojSinghRathore]

Why not solve the kashmir problem all for once?

Agreed. So when are you handing Pakistan Occupied Kashmir back to us

Kashmir is illegally occupied by India because it's ruler lie the people & merge the state with India against the aspirations of people. Yes Kashmir wanted & wants to join Pakistan, do you want me to start posting pictures? And stop f@rting with your army taught propaganda...if Pakistan was hypocrite like India it would've back stab India in 1962 when China offered Pakistan to launch attack from the east but instead Pakistani stupid ruler wanted to support India against China. All your rants are good for your Indian mates stop making yourself as a laughing stock here. Operation Gibraltar was a result of Indian aggression in Azad Kashmir...India after loosing to China thought that aggression against Azad Kashmir will be morale booster for Indian troops but it back fired and Pakistan came up with it's own operation gibraltor...later coward Indians attack international border & try to capture Lahore, etc but Pakistan crush them there too making Chawinda a graveyard for Indian tanks. Captured tanks are still in Pakistani Museums.



Indian Occupier terrorist Army is present in whole IOK/Maqbooza Kashmir. We saw them during recent clash with Kashmiris on Pakistan Independence day.



Stop f@rting like a duffer clown dear Sir. Read some real history not the propaganda taught to you by your Army. "Pakistan" stands for the northwestern regions of subcontinent. Bangladesh was not supposed to be part of actual Pakistan till 1940's. According to 1940's Pakistan resolution, Pakistan was supposed to be Punjab region, Afghania region, Kashmir region, Sind & Balochistan region. Bangladesh & Hyderabad Deccan were supposed to be separate countries.



You people are kept unaware & so you people consider your army as "Allah mian ki gaai(cow)"...reality is opposite though.



It does.

Kashmir issue can be solved when Pakistan hands Pakistan Occupied Kashmir to its rightful owner India, and all the jihadi terrorists in Kashmir are either killed of sent to Pakistan. Unless these terms are met, we Indians are not interested to discuss about Kashmir.

Jo ukhad na hai, ukhad le.
Jo ukhad na hai, ukhad le.

 

[Windjammer]

No,army is not there in whole of the state I used to live there.
That's what muslim league decided...not the British who were in power and legally had the right to decide.And they did not give kashmir to any side but left it to choose which side or remain independent.

Then i wonder who is killing who then. ?? !!

Indian Army soldier kills 5 colleagues and himself at camp in Kashmir - CNN.com

 

[karan.1970]

Then i wonder who is killing who then. ?? !!

Indian Army soldier kills 5 colleagues and himself at camp in Kashmir - CNN.com

Kashmir has a border with Pakistan. You ought to know that

Another proof of Army being present at that border...

Seven terrorists killed by Army in Lolab in Kashmir Valley | NDTV.com

 

[Windjammer]

Kashmir has a border with Pakistan. You ought to know that

Another proof of Army being present at that border...

Seven terrorists killed by Army in Lolab in Kashmir Valley | NDTV.com

Rather You should enlighten your country fellow that the Indian army has been oppressing Kashmiris for several decades.

1,028 soldiers commit suicide since 2003 | TwoCircles.net