Pakistan reaffirms commitment to N-test moratorium

[Taimoor Khan]

Ok kid, take a seat, and grab a pen to write with.

The population of India in 1950 was 317 million. At that time it ranked as the second most. PM Nehru knew the power of a large population, but at that time India didn't have the industrial/ political/ or economic prowess to set on it's own. So Nehru set a policy of non-alignment. The US and Soviets dangled plenty of goodies for India to come concretely to their ideological spheres. But it held firm, raking in $billions and setting up industry, R&D, educational institutes, and soft power in Bollywood.

All the while Pakistan, with 40 million ranking in 13th place in 1950. Decided to plant itself as a champion of the US. Failing to understand it's own relationship and treaties it signed itself into with the US. With a fallacy of being an "equal" to the US. And placed under embargoes through out. To this day it jerks itself off to US F-16s, AZ-1s or Oliver Perry frigates.

Thats all for now, I have a presentation to prepare for tomorrow.

Kiddo, who you are referring to as kid?

Listen sunshine, and listen very carefully while I educate you.

India is country which was a colonial entity pre 1947. Brits created post 1947 India to carry on their colonial legacy and the leaders and citizens of new India were happy with the arrangement. Post 1947 India, a torch bearer of colonial masters was and will remain the darling of western civilization of the vary reason that it carry on and didnt not deviate with the master wishes. There are reasons why India is the highest recipient of USAID even surpassing Israel. A happy dog, wagging its tale never questioning the master.

Where as Pakistan, a state which came into being in the name of Islam, which was a big no no for the powers to be, the only such state after state of Madina with similar circumstance, the migration and everything, had to maneuver it ways, from very humble beginning with literally empty pockets and no resources to become the top Muslim world power today. It is nothing short of miracle.

We were American allies when they were at their prime, and now we are ditching them when they are on decline. We saw this coming, and we shook hands with Chinese at the time when the rest of the world used to call them drug addicts. India was the buddy of the power which is now part of history and now hanging dearly to the one which is about to take the fall. Enjoy while it last.

And I am not even done yet, I am just begging to have fun with you.

If your assertion of their Chinese lenience bothers us then u r completely wrong. We have our assets just in place. And if it hasn't been noticed by you then their lineage is economic and it's not our concern as long it's not ideology.

Any country is free to do business with anyone, unlike some who can't. India doesn't wish to be a brother to these nations we are fine with just partners in business.

And we are doing just fine.

Besides all that you have been debating since yesterday is been debunked and refuted. In case you didn't notice China acknowledged that India has moved close to become NSG member and they have to even deleted the Pak entry clause.

My points stand right. You still are blabbering and will keep blabbering.

Go and check what is one China policy son, your whole north east belong to them according to their doctrine.

Put your reading glassed on and read the Chinese media. They are telling you to play by rules, which mean sign the NPT. In a diplomatic way, telling you to p|ss off. The article also mention that by only allowing India, it will create imbalance with Pakistan in the region. Exactly what Pakisan is saying.

You were shown your place by India and the world powers in 2008, when india got clean waiver from NSG, and pakistan did not, even after asking for it multiple times. Yet you are chest thumping like this with such cheap movie dialogues.

Once is not enough for you ? Wait for 10 more day you will get it again.

What are you on about? GOP Pakistan at the time under Zardari never raised any objections to India wavier, even though Chinese asked multiple times to block that as well. Its a well established fact! Educate yourself.

We hardly care about NSG, we are getting whatever we want, hell we have signed on same amount of nuke reactors as India ever since you got your so called NSG waiver.

 

[SrNair]

You expect me to reply to your typical Indian dribbles? I am struggling to find anything worth replying in your last comment to me expect some empty bravado and usual Indian BS really.

I am still all ears as to how your diplomacy is going about with Nepal and Maldives?

Lastly, those "smiles" are for rookies.



Couldnt manage a seat in NSG? Hell, we just applied like two weeks ago! Keep yourself up to date.



That what you like to tell yourself, or your American masters are giving you pep talk as well, but say this to Chinese on their face that they are your enemies and see the reaction. Your Modi not long ago was rolling the red carpet for Xi while his men in thousands were trampling your sovereignty and camping inside your controlled territory having a tea party. Bravado and reality are two different things.

Are your really an ignorant or acting like one ?
Read my post carefully.Before 1990s Pakistan was the US major ally .




We didnt invite any one here .Americans ,Chinese came here for our cooperation .And we merely welcomed them .
Xi Jingping came here.Their army send some soldiers ,we sent 3 battalions from our side .Xi became embarrassed when Modi asked him whether their army also decides matter in PRC like some 'other' neighbours in SA .
Xi returned to Beijing and kicked regional commanders of PLA .


We Indians can understand your pain .
I have seen alots of your post in PDF .All of that shows one intention .,the same intention your leaders showed in this case .Pakistan and India are equal.You are terribly wrong my friend .You can post thousands replies against Indians opinion to justify your notion .
But at the end and in reality ,Pakistan is not equal to India ,at any benchmark .

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Are your really an ignorant or acting like one ?
Read my post carefully.Before 1990s Pakistan was the US major ally .




We didnt invite any one here .Americans ,Chinese came here for our cooperation .And we merely welcomed them .
Xi Jingping came here.Their army send some soldiers ,we sent 3 battalions from our side .Xi became embarrassed when Modi asked him whether their army also decides matter in PRC like some 'other' neighbours in SA .
Xi returned to Beijing and kicked regional commanders of PLA .


We Indians can understand your pain .
I have seen alots of your post in PDF .All of that shows one intention .,the same intention your leaders showed in this case .Pakistan and India are equal.You are terribly wrong my friend .You can post thousands replies against Indians opinion to justify your notion .
But at the end and in reality ,Pakistan is not equal to India ,at any benchmark .

YES you are right, Pakistan is NOT equal to India, far SUPERIOR to India infact. You are correct on this occasion.

1990s? what that got to do with present day and age? We were never allies of America, we just used each other for your own purpose and that is about it.

And spare me will you. You lot didnt know how the coca cola and pepsi taste before 1990s. Yanks had the change of policy to prop you up against China and Pakistan primarily and that is all to it. So keep that non sense that India this and India that. You are nothing without yanks. The moment they pull the rug under your feet, you will know your true worth.

And dont pull stories about Xi from your behind. It was a calculate move to embarrass India on global scale by sending PLA troops inside while Modi was busy giving , you know what to Xi.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

Kiddo, who you are referring to as kid?
Listen sunshine, and listen very carefully while I educate you.
India is country which was a colonial entity pre 1947. Brits created post 1947 India to carry on their colonial legacy and the leaders and citizens of new India were happy with the arrangement. Post 1947 India, a torch bearer of colonial masters was and will remain the darling of western civilization of the vary reason that it carry on and didnt not deviate with the master wishes. There are reasons why India is the highest recipient of USAID even surpassing Israel. A happy dog, wagging its tale never questioning the master.
Where as Pakistan, a state which came into being in the name of Islam, which was a big no no for the powers to be, the only such state after state of Madina with similar circumstance, the migration and everything, had to maneuver it ways, from very humble beginning with literally empty pockets and no resources to become the top Muslim world power today. It is nothing short of miracle.
We were American allies when they were at their prime, and now we are ditching them when they are on decline. We saw this coming, and we shook hands with Chinese at the time when the rest of the world used to call them drug addicts. India was the buddy of the power which is now part of history and now hanging dearly to the one which is about to take the fall. Enjoy while it last.
And I am not even done yet, I am just begging to have fun with you.

I can spare some time sure..

India was a torch bearer or the West? While sticking with Soviet? Provide support for the most aid received by India claim.

Pakistan was a state that came into being in the name of Islam, while the founding father want it to be a moderate force along the lines of Ataturk's Turkey. Perhaps you confuse causation with causality, but you live in a fallacy. Just by having the name of ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN, doesnt mean the country is "Islamic". Quite the contrary far from. Corruption, disease, rot fill the country that your leaders run away from every time they get a cough.

You weren't America's allies, America took you as an ally. It's desire to contain the godless Soviets led it to pet Pakistan's ego of Islamifacation. Pakistan shook hands with the Chinese after the Indians said "fu<k off" to it's desire to make a mutual defense agreement against them. And the sanctions placed by the Americans during and after the war. Name 1 war Pakistan had with India that didn't involve it getting sanctioned? Sure the Americans "abandoned" Pakistan after the Soviet defeat, but then what did Pakistan do to contain the mess they helped create?




Pakistan is ditching the US? Perhaps you missed the reports of it still wanting to buy F-16. MIGLEMs equipped by US defense companies, a new service rifle, most companies who have bigger factories in the US than their own native countries. Come on come on, lets not joke too much laughing can kill people.

While you're talking about the declining in US, eemember Pakistani generals come to ask for blessings of a Coup from the US, not China.

 

[SrNair]

YES you are right, Pakistan is NOT equal to India, far SUPERIOR to India infact. You are correct on this occasion.

1990s? what that got to do with present day and age? We were never allies of America, we just used each other for your own purpose and that is about it.

And spare me will you. You lot didnt know how the coca cola and pepsi taste before 1990s. Yanks had the change of policy to prop you up against China and Pakistan primarily and that is all to it. So keep that non sense that India this and India that. You are nothing without yanks. The moment they pull the rug under your feet, you will know your true worth.

And dont pull stories about Xi from your behind. It was a calculate move to embarrass India on global scale by sending PLA troops inside while Modi was busy giving , you know what to Xi.

So 'acting' like one .Ok
Now you can sleep with good delusions.
Use each other.??
I wont blame you .A retard in UK is just insulting his motherland that sacrificed thousands of people and billions of dollars for a mere political leisure of a Superpower .

What calculated move ?
India is engaging in power diplomacy .And only thing you can do this venting your butthurt in PDF .

 

[Taimoor Khan]

So 'acting' like one .Ok
Now you can sleep with good delusions.
Use each other.??
I wont blame you .A retard in UK is just insulting his motherland that sacrificed thousands of people and billions of dollars for a mere political leisure of a Superpower .

What calculated move ?
India is engaging in power diplomacy .And only thing you can do this venting your butthurt in PDF .

The word is "used". Not some leisure sunshine. It is exactly how late Gen Gul described the PAK-US relations. We never been in any alliance. rather marriage of convenience. Educate yourself. We used America for our benefits and in return of some leverages for yanks in the region. Thats about it. Where is the insulting came into this you moron?

LOL, power diplomacy? You been spanked silly by Chinese yet your bravado wont settle down? Imagine if Obama visited Pakistan and US army at the same time cross over into Pakistan territory from Afghanistan and camped in our territory for weeks!! You still not feeling any shame? But hey, coz historically you lot are a slave nation.

 

[SrNair]

The word is "used". Not some leisure sunshine. It is exactly how late Gen Gul described the PAK-US relations. We never been in any alliance. rather marriage of convenience. Educate yourself. We used America for our benefits and in return of some leverages for yanks in the region. Thats about it. Where is the insulting came into this you moron?

LOL, power diplomacy? You been spanked silly by Chinese yet your bravado wont settle down? Imagine if Obama visited Pakistan and US army at the same time cross over into Pakistan territory from Afghanistan and camped in our territory for weeks!! You still not feeling any shame? But hey, coz historically you lot are a slave nation.

Right .
50000 poor souls would kill you if they see this posts
Before asking for NSG seat you should shoot down their drones in your airspace .Then you may have some eligibility to express opinions about our foreign policy.


And unlike Pakistan we sent in 3 battalions .

Repeat these words thousands times .But your are only good for trolling .

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Right .
50000 poor souls would kill you if they see this posts
Before asking for NSG seat you should shoot down their drones in your airspace .Then you may have some eligibility to express opinions about our foreign policy.


And unlike Pakistan we sent in 3 battalions .

Repeat these words thousands times .But your are only good for trolling .

silly bugger, those 50k souls are the proof that we are not in alliance with yanks infact we are fighting this fourth gen warfare with yanks and its "allies" . Hear those congressmen moaning and bitching about Pakistan.

Drones are sneaky little peace of crap, why dont you try to stop those Chinese boots "on ground" in daylight, erecting banners saying "this is Chinese territory" on your bharat mata backside!.

 

[SrNair]

silly bugger, those 50k souls are the proof that we are not in alliance with yanks infact we are fighting this fourth gen warfare with yanks and its "allies" . Hear those congressmen moaning and bitching about Pakistan.

Drones are sneaky little peace of crap, why dont you try to stop those Chinese boots "on ground" in daylight, erecting banners saying "this is Chinese territory" on your bharat mata backside!.

RIP Logic .

Repeat that thousands but nothing can change the reality

 

[Taimoor Khan]

RIP Logic .

Repeat that thousands but nothing can change the reality

Logic?? LOL.

Sunshine. this is reality. wakeup and smell the coffee. that is your true worth. ENJOY!!

 

[SrNair]

Logic?? LOL.

Sunshine. this is reality. wakeup and smell the coffee. that is your true worth. ENJOY!!

You are not eligible for measuring our worth

 

[Taimoor Khan]

I can spare some time sure..

India was a torch bearer or the West? While sticking with Soviet? Provide support for the most aid received by India claim.

Pakistan was a state that came into being in the name of Islam, while the founding father want it to be a moderate force along the lines of Ataturk's Turkey. Perhaps you confuse causation with causality, but you live in a fallacy. Just by having the name of ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN, doesnt mean the country is "Islamic". Quite the contrary far from. Corruption, disease, rot fill the country that your leaders run away from every time they get a cough.

You weren't America's allies, America took you as an ally. It's desire to contain the godless Soviets led it to pet Pakistan's ego of Islamifacation. Pakistan shook hands with the Chinese after the Indians said "fu<k off" to it's desire to make a mutual defense agreement against them. And the sanctions placed by the Americans during and after the war. Name 1 war Pakistan had with India that didn't involve it getting sanctioned? Sure the Americans "abandoned" Pakistan after the Soviet defeat, but then what did Pakistan do to contain the mess they helped create?




Pakistan is ditching the US? Perhaps you missed the reports of it still wanting to buy F-16. MIGLEMs equipped by US defense companies, a new service rifle, most companies who have bigger factories in the US than their own native countries. Come on come on, lets not joke too much laughing can kill people.

While you're talking about the declining in US, remember Pakistani generals come to ask for blessings of a Coup from the US, not China.

The problem with the kids life yourself, they blabber a lot without educating themselves about the ground realities.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1194228

India biggest recipient of US economic assistance over 66-year period: USAID

This "distinction" also cover the period when you were "supposedly" soviet allies. Remarkable achievement I would say. Feeling embarrassed?

An Indian telling me about what my founding father wanted Pakistan to be? Is that a joke. You know Scooby duo about Pakistan and its history so spare us all with your non sense. Let keep me out of this discussion and hear what the man himself said about his vision of Pakistan. Ata turk a secular scumbag, Right!!!! only buffoon with peanut size brain and intellect would believe this trash.

"You are only voicing my sentiments and sentiments of millions of Mussalmans,
When you say that Pakistan should be based on pure foundations of social justice and Islamic .... (repeated twice) Islamic socialism NOT other ISM"

"We might give all if necessary, in building up Pakistan as a bulwark of Islam"

"We should face it bravely to save the honor of Pakistan and Islam"


As I mentioned above the pseudo-Intellects like you, who dont know a sh|t, talk big only to embarrass themselves later. Go and bloody educate yourself kid.

We shock hand of yanks in early 50s because we believe it was the right thing to do as oppose to the godless soviets. It is another matter that internally in Pakistan it is debated if that decision of joining hands with yanks was the right or wrong move. We were the first state to have any meaning diplomatic contact with the Chinese after their revolution and that got further impetus after Chinese handed over India its backside on platter in 1962 war.And yes exactly the sanction! thanks for proving my point. Goes to show that we were never allies of yanks, just marriage of convenience thats about it. And we did very well to contain the fall outs of soviet withdrawal and kept Pakistan safe and sound untill yanks went inside Afghansitan along with its "buddies" to play their silly fourth gen warfare against Pakistan from Afghan soil.

Hear the congressmen moaning and bitching about Pakistan every other day. What does it tell you kiddo? We are ditching them, the process started when they and their CIA started to play silly games against us from Afghan soil. Why do you think we are giving China, their main global adversary, access through our lands which will nullify American Asia pivot strategy to encircle China? And whos buying F16s, milgem or what not from yanks? They themselves were offering these. We gave them two finger salute when they backtracked from their original offer regarding F16s and told them to shove those jets in the place where the sun dont shine.

Begging for coup? Pakistani generals? LOL. Are you are silly bugger thats for sure.

You are not eligible for measuring our worth

You dont need a degree to spot the garbage do you?

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

The problem with the kids life yourself, they blabber a lot without educating themselves about the ground realities.

You're delusional.

And i'm a Pakistani-American, just because I fail to suck the di<k of blind Pakistani Nationalism doesnt equate me to an Indian.

Keep up your delusions, they'll help you rest easier, knowing that China has greater interests in India over Pakistan would shock you.

In a couple of years it'll be China telling Pakistan to fu<k off from India.
It'll be China telling Pakistan to fu<k off from Kashmir.
It'll be China telling Pakistan to fu<k off from it's 'strategic depth' from Afghanistan.
It'll be China telling Pakistan to mature itself.

While Pakistan get's loans from China for it's CPEC. China trades double that with India. It's FDI into India is more than the total Pakistan gets from the entire world.

Keep yourself ignorant, it's bliss. You'd probably die from knowing the truth.

Money is king. And Pakistan has none.

Begging for coup? Pakistani generals? LOL. Are you are silly bugger thats for sure.

Blessings you fool.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

You're delusional.

And i'm a Pakistani-American, just because I fail to suck the di<k of blind Pakistani Nationalism doesnt equate me to an Indian.

Keep up your delusions, they'll help you rest easier, knowing that China has greater interests in India over Pakistan would shock you.

In a couple of years it'll be China telling Pakistan to fu<k off from India.
It'll be China telling Pakistan to fu<k off from Kashmir.
It'll be China telling Pakistan to fu<k off from it's 'strategic depth' from Afghanistan.
It'll be China telling Pakistan to mature itself.

While Pakistan get's loans from China for it's CPEC. China trades double that with India. It's FDI into India is more than the total Pakistan gets from the entire world.

Keep yourself ignorant, it's bliss. You'd probably die from knowing the truth.

Money is king. And Pakistan has none.



Blessings you fool.

I actually feel ashamed to have you as my fellow countryman. But hey, some mothers do eve'em. Please do take it personally, it is just a slang.

It is actually quite funny to see you changing goal post in every reply to me. As soon as I sort you out, your previous argument , instead of bringing your counter argument, you start p|ssing in the air on other irrelevant stuff.

It seems you got crystal ball in your hands which can see the future of Pakistan China relationship. Good on you. But before you jump up and down like a spoil brat, let me remind you a little thing, called one China policy, which is the core of Chinese state. And, what I am about to say to you, that, India,s north east, is part of that one China policy. Thats why you see Chinese soldiers erecting banners on mother India arse, saying this is Chinese territory. But hey, you are entitled to your hallucinations. I wont stop you.

Btw, its my part time hobby to put your kind in place, I just enjoy doing it. No hard feelings.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

Btw, its my part time hobby to put your kind in place, I just enjoy doing it. No hard feelings.

Face the facts.

Pakistan doesn't have a policy or vision for the future. It's chugging along on fumes of something. Just throwing wrenches into the gears of other nation's policies will only get you so far.

The link you sent of some $66 Billion in aid to India compared to Pakistan's $44 billion. Open your eyes, look at what India has accomplished.

While Pakistan is ogling over $800 million, India has secured $Billions in FDI. America's Google, Microsoft, Swed's Saab, UK's BAE, China's Huawei, S. Korea's Samsung & LG. Companies are lining up to create campuses of R&D in India.

Pakistan was eyeing potentially a joint venture with Ukraine's Antonov, India's Reliance Industries comes in and decides to do joint manufacturing.

Money is King. And right now, every country Pakistan trades with India's trade with them is 2/3/4/5 times.

I gave you facts supporting my 2nd sentence, the whole essence of my wasted back and forth with you.

My discussion with you ends here. You're welcome to have the last word.