Featured Pakistan Navy Type 054AP Frigates - Update, News & Discussion

[Basel]

Can type 54 fire YJ18?

It depends on what VLS ship have.

 

[LKJ86]

YJ-18

It depends on what VLS ship have.

If PN can get the original version of YJ-18 used by PLAN, it will be a disaster to IN.

 

[Basel]

YJ-18
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If PN can get the original version used by PLAN, it will be a disaster to IN.

Can Type-54A have it in its VLS?

 

[syed_yusuf]

YJ-18
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If PN can get the original version used by PLAN, it will be a disaster to IN.

i totally agree. PN should install C302 and Harba missiles on it. may be go for 4 more

 

[LKJ86]

Can Type-54A have it in its VLS?

No, it is for 052D/055.

 

[Basel]

No, it is for 052D/055.

But export 4000ton ship seem to have longer VLS, it may be able to house YJ-18.

 

[26-K]

No one here can say definitively what is better quality since we lack concrete information to make an objective assessment. Basing current judgement on past purchases is pretty much pointless as since China's shipbuilding industry moves so fast. Even more so when using a export model which is guaranteed to be gimped when compared to the version PLAN uses.
Pointing out China's difficulties in earlier issues to demonstrate what China produces is "lower quality" can be easily countered by pointing out failures from what some people here consider "High quality" such as QE carrier having leaks and a issues with its propellers or the Zumwalts being dead in the water multiple times. I can point out many more but you get the idea.
Sure, there are more capable frigates with better radars/armaments etc for sale than the 054a but the point of the 054a for PLAN is to have an economical asuw platform, not have all the latest bells and whistles on it. It has the 055 for that.
Arguing here then becomes a problem of feelings and perception which is ultimately pointless and unproductive.

 

[LKJ86]

But export 4000ton ship seem to have longer VLS, it may be able to house YJ-18.

I don't know.
The length of YJ-18 is close to 9 meters.
Submarines also can launch YJ-18.

 

[Armchair]

the CJ-302 is a great weapon but MTCR restriction means Harbah may be better as a ranged weapon for 54As in PN - PN would want to keep its best capital ships at a distance, while smaller ships can go in closer. Maybe a future corvette in the 1000 ton range could be used for such a purpose.

As of now, it seems the Turkish Ada will have Harbahs, and the Damen boats refitted with Harpoons from older retiring platforms.

 

[LKJ86]

the CJ-302 is a great weapon but MTCR restriction means Harbah may be better as a ranged weapon for 54As in PN - PN would want to keep its best capital ships at a distance, while smaller ships can go in closer. Maybe a future corvette in the 1000 ton range could be used for such a purpose.

As of now, it seems the Turkish Ada will have Harbahs, and the Damen boats refitted with Harpoons from older retiring platforms.

CJ-302?

 

[Basel]

I don't know.
The length of YJ-18 is close to 9 meters.
Submarines also can launch YJ-18.

What is range of 9 meter YJ-18??

 

[LKJ86]

What is range of 9 meter YJ-18??

Maybe about 560km.

 

[syed_yusuf]

CJ-302?

i think he mean CM302

 

[Basel]

Maybe about 560km.

Then export version will be 300km max range means small in size, so it may be possible to have it for 7 meter VLS.

You still remember the news Indian navy's Kilo sub approaching Pakistan's coastal line? PN is inducting Type 54 for ASW role with its towed arrayed sonar.And type 54 can provide area air-defense with LY80N.

Primary role of ASW will be perform by F-22P or Miligem in future, Type-54A will have ASW as secondary role.

 

[pzfz]

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