Pakistan Navy Questions Thread

[syed_yusuf]

Any idea when will be the weapon package of two corvettes

 

[Incog_nito]

Besides those 8 Chinese submarines, is PN planning on the acquisition of another 8 submarines from Germany / Sweden?

Milden's project is quite different from the acquisition of the above 8+8 submarines.

 

[Tamiyah]

Besides those 8 Chinese submarines, is PN planning on the acquisition of another 8 submarines from Germany / Sweden?

Milden's project is quite different from the acquisition of the above 8+8 submarines.

I have heard about something indigenous and somethings with foreign partners but not from Germany / Sweden. I expect something smaller from foreign countries.

 

[Incog_nito]

I have heard about something indigenous and somethings with foreign partners but not from Germany / Sweden. I expect something smaller from foreign countries.

Then it will be Turkish.

 

[Tamiyah]

Then it will be Turkish.

You never know.

 

[Incog_nito]

Let's see.

 

[farooqbhai007]

what is the system mounted on the truck on the right for ? ,
The left truck is the GCS&comms unit for LUNA NG.
While the other truck on right seems to be some kind of coastal radar , notice the Stabilizers , any idea ?

 

[MrAlpha1]

As Pakistan's Sea Kings are getting old, What could be the options for Pakistan navy?
1) Chinese
2) American
3) Italian

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

British, but Italian branding.

 

[Yasser76]

British, but Italian branding.

Possible we can see IK announce a multi billion pound AW159/AW101 deal when he visits UK in July?

 

[Aryeih Leib]

Possible we can see IK announce a multi billion pound AW159/AW101 deal when he visits UK in July?

Pakistan never does that ...!!
Pak ARMED forces keep these kind of news close to their chests till the deal is sealed

 

[Yasser76]

Pakistan never does that ...!!
Pak ARMED forces keep these kind of news close to their chests till the deal is sealed

Yes, that was my point, announcing a done deal for AW choppers. .

 

[Falconless]

Pakistan should push for domestic production of whatever helicopter they end up ordering, ideally AWs as the Army and Air Force both have a sizable fleet of them.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Possible we can see IK announce a multi billion pound AW159/AW101 deal when he visits UK in July?

This would be more of a UK gov't announcement, e.g., Boris Johnson saying the areas building the AW-series will get jobs for the next 5-7 years.

On our end, I'd keep an eye on talks for financing and credit. IMHO, a helicopter deal would cross $1b in value, so it'd be the largest arms deal between the UK and Pakistan in a long time (if ever).

It would also be a huge experiment for the UK to gauge if Pakistan is a good arms market. Success in this area can lead to bigger programs down the line, e.g., fighter aircraft.

Pakistan should push for domestic production of whatever helicopter they end up ordering, ideally AWs as the Army and Air Force both have a sizable fleet of them.

Licensed production isn't worth it. If we're importing, we should push for an offset deal where our private sector gets to source a % of the parts for all AW helicopters. However, to enter helicopter manufacturing properly, we need to engage in original design work (like Turkey).

IMHO ... a 7-8-ton platform that can function as a AW139-type transport helicopter and AH-1Z-type attack helicopter would work really well for our armed forces. But the Army needs to take the lead on this since they'd be the largest user.

 

[Yasser76]

This would be more of a UK gov't announcement, e.g., Boris Johnson saying the areas building the AW-series will get jobs for the next 5-7 years.

On our end, I'd keep an eye on talks for financing and credit. IMHO, a helicopter deal would cross $1b in value, so it'd be the largest arms deal between the UK and Pakistan in a long time (if ever).

It would also be a huge experiment for the UK to gauge if Pakistan is a good arms market. Success in this area can lead to bigger programs down the line, e.g., fighter aircraft.

Licensed production isn't worth it. If we're importing, we should push for an offset deal where our private sector gets to source a % of the parts for all AW helicopters. However, to enter helicopter manufacturing properly, we need to engage in original design work (like Turkey).

IMHO ... a 7-8-ton platform that can work as a AW139-type transport helicopter and AH-1Z-type attack helicopter would work really well for our armed forces. But the Army needs to take the lead on this since they'd be the largest user.

That is actually want I meant, after Brexit UK Gov are desperate to shout about any non EU deals. I think they also realised the Indians were stringing them along after all these year. After the US, Russians, French and Israelis get their slice of the Indian defence pie then very little left over. Once Typhoon lost out to Rafale and Indian Navy went for US/Russian/Israeli kit I think their is now more leeway to deal with Pakistan. Defence training between Pak and UK has always been very close (Cambrian, Sandhurst cadets, Instructor exchanges, joint exercises etc) but defence trade never quite followed this. Only major issue with UK kit is that much of it has US components. If UK can ensure all UK/Italian equipment on CAMM-ER and AW choppers then no reason at all we should not go in for these if we have money. Also this is kit either Turkey does not make or does not make to a high enough quality.
Damn, by some twist of fate it seems AW159 uses same LHTEC CTS800 engine that T-129 uses and US is witholding. Only two military choppers in the world use this engine, AW159 and T-129. Pretty bad lick I think.