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That's why I mentioned T-70 and NH-90 as options. They're in between Z-9EC and Sea King.
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NH-90 & S-70 MTOW is >= the Sea King.
At 6t, I see AW159 Wildcat as the one between Z-9EC & Sea King.
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Dishonorable discharge and sentence in jail. Also depends on the circumstances. He's basically a bagohra, AWOL.
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Sentence in jail for how long?
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First Deployment of Pakistan Navy Ship Under Regional Maritime Security Patrol (link)
Pakistan Navy ship SAIF visited Jeddah, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and Port Muscat, Oman during first regional maritime security patrol (RMSP) deployment instituted recently by Pakistan Navy. The objective of RMSP is to maintain presence along critical choke points/maritime areas to fulfill international obligations for maritime security and safeguard national shipping while observing freedom of navigation across high seas.
During stay at Port Jeddah, Commanding Officer of PNS SAIF Captain Shahid Wasif called on senior Royal Saudi Naval Forces (RSNF) officials, including Rear Admiral Hamid Bin Bakhit Aljahni, RSNF Western Fleet Commander and other senior military officials. During the call, Commanding Officer PNS SAIF conveyed well wishes from Chief of the Naval Staff Admiral Zafar Mahmood Abbasi to the people of Saudi Arabia and the RSNF personnel.
During the four-day stay at Port, the ship’s crew visited different RSNF training facilities. Ambassador of Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Vice Admiral (Retd) Khan Hasham Bin Saddique went onboard and interacted with the crew. A reception dinner was also hosted onboard in the honour of diplomats and officials from RSNF.
During the visit to Port Muscat, Oman, Commanding Officer of PNS SAIF called on Royal Navy of Oman’s Head of Fleet Staff and other officials. A reception was also hosted onboard PNS SAIF; Commodore Saif Bin Mohammad Al Habsi, Commanding Officer Said Bin Sultan Naval Base graced the occasion as chief guest, while Mr. Ali Javed Ambassador of Islamic Republic of Pakistan was the chief host of the event. The reception was attended by large number of guests including Pakistani and Omani community members, diplomats, officials and other dignitaries. The ship remained open for local visitors, which provided unique opportunity to overseas Pakistanis to have a glimpse of life onboard.
Officers and men of PNS SAIF were engaged in various interactions during the Port visit to ensure continuity in bilateral collaboration. In order to enhance interoperability with Royal Oman Navy (RNOV), PNS SAIF also conducted passage exercise (PASSEX) with RNOV ship KHASSAB. Upon completion of PASSEX, PNS SAIF resumed RMSPs in the Gulf of Aden.
The visit of PNS SAIF is expected to provide new vistas to further strengthen relations with friendly countries.
Pakistan Navy ship SAIF visited Jeddah, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and Port Muscat, Oman during first regional maritime security patrol (RMSP) deployment instituted recently by Pakistan Navy. The objective of RMSP is to maintain presence along critical choke points/maritime areas to fulfill international obligations for maritime security and safeguard national shipping while observing freedom of navigation across high seas.
During stay at Port Jeddah, Commanding Officer of PNS SAIF Captain Shahid Wasif called on senior Royal Saudi Naval Forces (RSNF) officials, including Rear Admiral Hamid Bin Bakhit Aljahni, RSNF Western Fleet Commander and other senior military officials. During the call, Commanding Officer PNS SAIF conveyed well wishes from Chief of the Naval Staff Admiral Zafar Mahmood Abbasi to the people of Saudi Arabia and the RSNF personnel.
During the four-day stay at Port, the ship’s crew visited different RSNF training facilities. Ambassador of Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Vice Admiral (Retd) Khan Hasham Bin Saddique went onboard and interacted with the crew. A reception dinner was also hosted onboard in the honour of diplomats and officials from RSNF.
During the visit to Port Muscat, Oman, Commanding Officer of PNS SAIF called on Royal Navy of Oman’s Head of Fleet Staff and other officials. A reception was also hosted onboard PNS SAIF; Commodore Saif Bin Mohammad Al Habsi, Commanding Officer Said Bin Sultan Naval Base graced the occasion as chief guest, while Mr. Ali Javed Ambassador of Islamic Republic of Pakistan was the chief host of the event. The reception was attended by large number of guests including Pakistani and Omani community members, diplomats, officials and other dignitaries. The ship remained open for local visitors, which provided unique opportunity to overseas Pakistanis to have a glimpse of life onboard.
Officers and men of PNS SAIF were engaged in various interactions during the Port visit to ensure continuity in bilateral collaboration. In order to enhance interoperability with Royal Oman Navy (RNOV), PNS SAIF also conducted passage exercise (PASSEX) with RNOV ship KHASSAB. Upon completion of PASSEX, PNS SAIF resumed RMSPs in the Gulf of Aden.
The visit of PNS SAIF is expected to provide new vistas to further strengthen relations with friendly countries.
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Wildcat not worth it considering how PN had to sell lynx choppers.
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Regional Maritime Security Patrols: Pakistan Navy’s Initiative for Preserving Freedom of the Seas (link)
Security, generally, means a condition that makes an environment free from fear, threat and danger. In terms of international relations, more specifically, “security is about the pursuit of freedom from threat and the ability of states and societies to maintain their independent identity and their functional integrity against forces of change, which they see as hostile. The bottom line of security is survival”. Buzan argues that the terms, phrases and expressions used to explain ideas and concepts continue to evolve and at times become obsolete. Therefore, in his view, the concept of security must include, besides traditional military security, the economic, political, environmental and societal factors. Thus Buzan suggested that emergence of the term ‘maritime security’, as a subset of ‘security’ is one of the manifestations of security.
Maritime security has diverse meanings as it largely depends on the purpose and context for which the term is referred to. When used in the backdrop of freedom of the seas, it generally means an environment free from threats to the order at sea. Some major threats to this order include, but are not limited to: maritime terrorism, piracy, drug trafficking, human smuggling, gun-running, poaching and activities that result into man-made disasters or marine pollution. Naval forces have traditionally been tasked with the responsibility to combat these threats, in addition to their primary role of naval warfare. Though maritime security has always remained relevant, it gained preeminence in the post-9/11 milieu as violent non-state actors mostly relied on the sea for transportation of both men and material to pursue their terror objectives. The reason is simple: the large unmonitored areas the sea offered, could easily be exploited for moving things around, hijacking merchant ships and asymmetrically attacking military vessels. A multilateral approach was thus required to fight the emerging and potential threats to a secure maritime domain, which could allow uninterrupted maritime commerce and other activities at sea. Vastness of maritime space juxtaposed maritime challenges – which could be called a maritime complexity – it is almost impossible for a single state to handle this complexity on its own. This leads to a belief that the idea of maritime security has to be ‘cooperative’, i.e., various littoral nations contributing towards addressing the security challenges at sea. In the Indian Ocean, the U.S. and European-led initiatives, besides a few independent deployers, focusing on maritime security emerged following the post-9/11 period.
As maritime component of Operation Enduring Freedom, the U.S. launched Coalition Maritime Campaign Plan (CMCP) under Combined Task Force (CTF)-150. CTF-150 was aimed at deterring maritime terrorism, it was later placed under the Commander of Combined Maritime Forces (CMF), based in Bahrain. Subsequently, several mission-oriented task forces appeared as constituents of CMF, e.g., CTF-151 (Counterpiracy), CTF-152 (Persian Gulf security), etc. Pakistan Navy, as a responsible regional maritime force, welcomed these initiatives and joined CTF-150 and 151. Senior Pakistan naval officers have commanded the CTF-150 and 151 several times since 2004 and 2009, respectively. Pakistan Navy deployed its front-line warships, along with aircraft, for pursuing objectives set forth by the two task forces for well over a decade and a half.
Recently, as a result of reevaluation of the maritime environment and recalibration of its maritime security choices, Pakistan Navy launched the initiative of Regional Maritime Security Patrols or the RMSP. The chief objective of RMSP is to maintain a threat-free environment in Pakistan’s immediate and distant maritime neighborhood, so that economic, scientific and social activities at sea continue unhindered. Starting with its own ships, Pakistan Navy would expand the RMSP’s partner and footprint fabric by including regional littoral states supporting its vision. RMSP has been set in the direction of ‘fostering intra-regional bonds through maritime multilateralism’, a thesis that has steadily been gaining acceptance among Pakistan’s maritime strategic community.
Pakistan Navy has, on several occasions, argued for a region-centric model for maritime security in the Indian Ocean. Pakistan believes that the region’s security and economic priorities can best be preserved by the regional countries themselves without considerably depending on ERF. This proposition does not suggest a framework totally excluding the ERF but means to avoid assigning them a lead role in deciding major regional maritime security priorities. Historically, previous ERF-led military cooperative models (e.g., CENTO, SEATO etc.) only helped create intra-regional rifts, suspicions and lack of trust, which comprehensively inhibited realization of any maritime regional integration. It is, therefore, paramount for Indian Ocean nations to rethink creating a “NATO of the Seas” for the Indian Ocean. RMSP, as is envisioned to expand on region-led, region-owned principle, would play the role of a maritime multilateral construct ensuring security in the Indian Ocean.
Overall, the purpose of RMSP is to achieve and sustain good maritime order in the Arabian Sea and the broader Indian Ocean. Fighting and suppressing maritime terrorism, piracy, drug trafficking, human smuggling, gun running are major objectives of RMSP besides contributing towards disaster relief and environment protection. In pursuit of region-centric maritime security, Pakistan Navy’s RMSP draws its strength from the theme of ‘strategic autonomy’, i.e., without having to rely on an external power for setting maritime security priorities and objectives. As per operational mechanics, Pakistan Navy commenced patrolling Gulf of Oman, Gulf of Aden and South Arabian Sea, as an initial step of RMSP. Pakistan Navy would expand its maritime footprint deep down into the Southern Indian Ocean, progressively, while concurrently inviting/welcoming the regional countries to become ‘collaborative partners’ of RMSP. At present, two ships are on a continuous 24/7 patrol in various parts of the Indian Ocean, and this would be augmented by aircraft in the subsequent steps of RMSP, when its spatiotemporal expansion would be undertaken by Pakistan Navy.
RMSP’s initiative is completely in line with all international legal frameworks including United Nations Security Council (UNSC) and UN Conventions on Law of the Sea (UNCLOS). UNSC Resolution 2316 (2016) mandates UN member states “to act on the situation with respect to piracy and armed robbery at sea off the Coast of Somalia.” UNSC Resolution 2216 (2015) also supports RMSP as it seeks to disrupt illegal arms trade. Similarly, UNCLOS Article 100, which asks for cooperation in suppression of piracy, does strengthen the formulation of RMSP.
It is expected that Pakistan Navy’s foundational concept of ‘region-centric approach to maritime security’ would gain acceptance among the maritime nations of the Indian Ocean. The thesis that ‘region-owned, region-led’ frameworks are more productive and efficient, is likely to muster significant approval that would enhance RMSP as a better alternative to the ERF’s initiatives.
Security, generally, means a condition that makes an environment free from fear, threat and danger. In terms of international relations, more specifically, “security is about the pursuit of freedom from threat and the ability of states and societies to maintain their independent identity and their functional integrity against forces of change, which they see as hostile. The bottom line of security is survival”. Buzan argues that the terms, phrases and expressions used to explain ideas and concepts continue to evolve and at times become obsolete. Therefore, in his view, the concept of security must include, besides traditional military security, the economic, political, environmental and societal factors. Thus Buzan suggested that emergence of the term ‘maritime security’, as a subset of ‘security’ is one of the manifestations of security.
Maritime security has diverse meanings as it largely depends on the purpose and context for which the term is referred to. When used in the backdrop of freedom of the seas, it generally means an environment free from threats to the order at sea. Some major threats to this order include, but are not limited to: maritime terrorism, piracy, drug trafficking, human smuggling, gun-running, poaching and activities that result into man-made disasters or marine pollution. Naval forces have traditionally been tasked with the responsibility to combat these threats, in addition to their primary role of naval warfare. Though maritime security has always remained relevant, it gained preeminence in the post-9/11 milieu as violent non-state actors mostly relied on the sea for transportation of both men and material to pursue their terror objectives. The reason is simple: the large unmonitored areas the sea offered, could easily be exploited for moving things around, hijacking merchant ships and asymmetrically attacking military vessels. A multilateral approach was thus required to fight the emerging and potential threats to a secure maritime domain, which could allow uninterrupted maritime commerce and other activities at sea. Vastness of maritime space juxtaposed maritime challenges – which could be called a maritime complexity – it is almost impossible for a single state to handle this complexity on its own. This leads to a belief that the idea of maritime security has to be ‘cooperative’, i.e., various littoral nations contributing towards addressing the security challenges at sea. In the Indian Ocean, the U.S. and European-led initiatives, besides a few independent deployers, focusing on maritime security emerged following the post-9/11 period.
As maritime component of Operation Enduring Freedom, the U.S. launched Coalition Maritime Campaign Plan (CMCP) under Combined Task Force (CTF)-150. CTF-150 was aimed at deterring maritime terrorism, it was later placed under the Commander of Combined Maritime Forces (CMF), based in Bahrain. Subsequently, several mission-oriented task forces appeared as constituents of CMF, e.g., CTF-151 (Counterpiracy), CTF-152 (Persian Gulf security), etc. Pakistan Navy, as a responsible regional maritime force, welcomed these initiatives and joined CTF-150 and 151. Senior Pakistan naval officers have commanded the CTF-150 and 151 several times since 2004 and 2009, respectively. Pakistan Navy deployed its front-line warships, along with aircraft, for pursuing objectives set forth by the two task forces for well over a decade and a half.
Recently, as a result of reevaluation of the maritime environment and recalibration of its maritime security choices, Pakistan Navy launched the initiative of Regional Maritime Security Patrols or the RMSP. The chief objective of RMSP is to maintain a threat-free environment in Pakistan’s immediate and distant maritime neighborhood, so that economic, scientific and social activities at sea continue unhindered. Starting with its own ships, Pakistan Navy would expand the RMSP’s partner and footprint fabric by including regional littoral states supporting its vision. RMSP has been set in the direction of ‘fostering intra-regional bonds through maritime multilateralism’, a thesis that has steadily been gaining acceptance among Pakistan’s maritime strategic community.
Pakistan Navy has, on several occasions, argued for a region-centric model for maritime security in the Indian Ocean. Pakistan believes that the region’s security and economic priorities can best be preserved by the regional countries themselves without considerably depending on ERF. This proposition does not suggest a framework totally excluding the ERF but means to avoid assigning them a lead role in deciding major regional maritime security priorities. Historically, previous ERF-led military cooperative models (e.g., CENTO, SEATO etc.) only helped create intra-regional rifts, suspicions and lack of trust, which comprehensively inhibited realization of any maritime regional integration. It is, therefore, paramount for Indian Ocean nations to rethink creating a “NATO of the Seas” for the Indian Ocean. RMSP, as is envisioned to expand on region-led, region-owned principle, would play the role of a maritime multilateral construct ensuring security in the Indian Ocean.
Overall, the purpose of RMSP is to achieve and sustain good maritime order in the Arabian Sea and the broader Indian Ocean. Fighting and suppressing maritime terrorism, piracy, drug trafficking, human smuggling, gun running are major objectives of RMSP besides contributing towards disaster relief and environment protection. In pursuit of region-centric maritime security, Pakistan Navy’s RMSP draws its strength from the theme of ‘strategic autonomy’, i.e., without having to rely on an external power for setting maritime security priorities and objectives. As per operational mechanics, Pakistan Navy commenced patrolling Gulf of Oman, Gulf of Aden and South Arabian Sea, as an initial step of RMSP. Pakistan Navy would expand its maritime footprint deep down into the Southern Indian Ocean, progressively, while concurrently inviting/welcoming the regional countries to become ‘collaborative partners’ of RMSP. At present, two ships are on a continuous 24/7 patrol in various parts of the Indian Ocean, and this would be augmented by aircraft in the subsequent steps of RMSP, when its spatiotemporal expansion would be undertaken by Pakistan Navy.
RMSP’s initiative is completely in line with all international legal frameworks including United Nations Security Council (UNSC) and UN Conventions on Law of the Sea (UNCLOS). UNSC Resolution 2316 (2016) mandates UN member states “to act on the situation with respect to piracy and armed robbery at sea off the Coast of Somalia.” UNSC Resolution 2216 (2015) also supports RMSP as it seeks to disrupt illegal arms trade. Similarly, UNCLOS Article 100, which asks for cooperation in suppression of piracy, does strengthen the formulation of RMSP.
It is expected that Pakistan Navy’s foundational concept of ‘region-centric approach to maritime security’ would gain acceptance among the maritime nations of the Indian Ocean. The thesis that ‘region-owned, region-led’ frameworks are more productive and efficient, is likely to muster significant approval that would enhance RMSP as a better alternative to the ERF’s initiatives.
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A deserter will have to face short court martial with 1 year imprisonment (total 6 months day/night).
After that SNLR (Service No Longer Required) and sent home without benefits.
After that he will have no legal issues, but will not get any government job anywhere but can work privately.
A deserter will have to face short court martial with 1 year imprisonment (total 6 months day/night).
After that SNLR (Service No Longer Required) and sent home without benefits.
After that he will have no legal issues, but will not get any government job anywhere but can work privately.
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Thanks sir , it will help.
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Thanks sir, it will help.
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Sure but besides the AShW the AW159 isn't that much more "multimission". I really think the CNS means an inbetween the dedicated AShW/ASW helicopter and large platform like AW101. Yes the Sea King is as big as the T-70/NH-90, but most that are or have replaced it, did it with the AW101. The next gen of helicopters are bigger.
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Chief of Defence Staff Sri Lankan Armed Forces , Admiral Ravindra C. Wijegunaratne called on Chief of the Naval Staff, Admiral Zafar Mahmood Abbasi at Naval Headquarters, Islamabad.
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Multinational Maritime Exercise AMAN-19
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Multinational Maritime Exercise AMAN-19
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