Pakistan Naval Aviation - Updated

[khanasifm]

https://www.navyrecognition.com/ind...does-spotted-for-the-first-time-in-china.html

 

[Haris Ali2140]

How many ATR 72 are planned???
@fatman17 @Quwa @Dazzler

 

[fatman17]

How many ATR 72 are planned???
@fatman17 @Quwa @Dazzler

4 initially in batches of 2

 

[Haris Ali2140]

4 initially in batches of 2

Do P-3C and ATR 72 have the same role???

 

[MIRauf]

Not 100% similar role, there is over lap. ATR-72 ASW lack's MAD.

P-3C can do everything that ATR-72 can do, ATR-72 can do quite a lot what P-3C can do but at cheaper flying hour rate.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Not 100% similar role, there is over lap. ATR-72 ASW lack's MAD.

P-3C can do everything that ATR-72 can do, ATR-72 can do quite a lot what P-3C can do but at cheaper flying hour rate.

Thanks.

 

[khanasifm]

Atr attack capability is limited to Anti sub torpedos ?? Or Missile harpoon, Exocet etc are also integrated giving it Stand off attack capability

Not sure [emoji848]

Avionics wise it is ahead of p-3 with Aesa radar

 

[fatman17]

Do P-3C and ATR 72 have the same role???

The Orion is a Long range MPA /ASW aircraft whilst the ATR will be restricted to patrolling the makran coast line.

 

[Signalian]

Do P-3C and ATR 72 have the same role???

The official designation of the PN’s ATR-72 MPA is ‘Sea Eagle’ and is slated to replace the PN’s aging F-27 Fokker MPAs.

The Sea Eagle is configured with the following:

* Leonardo’s Seaspray 7300 active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar;

* Aerodata AG’s AeroMission mission management system;

* Elettronica’s electronic support measures (ESM) system;

*FLIR Systems’ Star SAFIRE III electro-optical and infrared (EO/IR) turret;

* anti-submarine warfare (ASW) capability through two torpedo hardpoints.

 

[Viper27]

The official designation of the PN’s ATR-72 MPA is ‘Sea Eagle’ and is slated to replace the PN’s aging F-27 Fokker MPAs.

The Sea Eagle is configured with the following:

* Leonardo’s Seaspray 7300 active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar;

* Aerodata AG’s AeroMission mission management system;

* Elettronica’s electronic support measures (ESM) system;

*FLIR Systems’ Star SAFIRE III electro-optical and infrared (EO/IR) turret;

* anti-submarine warfare (ASW) capability through two torpedo hardpoints.

Considering that there’s an AESA radar on board i am wondering if these ATRs will work as airborne warning systems for the PAF too..

 

[Dazzler]

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

The official designation of the PN’s ATR-72 MPA is ‘Sea Eagle’ and is slated to replace the PN’s aging F-27 Fokker MPAs.

The Sea Eagle is configured with the following:

* Leonardo’s Seaspray 7300 active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar;

* Aerodata AG’s AeroMission mission management system;

* Elettronica’s electronic support measures (ESM) system;

*FLIR Systems’ Star SAFIRE III electro-optical and infrared (EO/IR) turret;

* anti-submarine warfare (ASW) capability through two torpedo hardpoints.

Besides the aircraft platform, the main difference between the Saab Swordfish and this Sea Eagle configuration is that the Swordfish has a MAD and it uses Saab's CMS. Otherwise, they're virtually identical (same radar, ESM and even EO/IR).

For its LRMPA requirement (to replace the P-3Cs), it wouldn't surprise me if the PN simply uses the Sea Eagle configuration (with MAD and AShW capability) on board a bigger plane, like the Bombardier Global 6000 or the Embraer E195.

Considering that there’s an AESA radar on board i am wondering if these ATRs will work as airborne warning systems for the PAF too..

I think the PN's using those radars as over-the-horizon surface targeting sensors for the smaller ships, like the FAC(M).

 

[Viper27]

I think the PN's using those radars as over-the-horizon surface targeting sensors for the smaller ships, like the FAC(M).

Thank you for your response. Is it possible, in theory, for these AESA radars on the ATRs to be used for aerial surveillance too though?

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Thank you for your response. Is it possible, in theory, for these AESA radars on the ATRs to be used for aerial surveillance too though?

I'm not sure, I think the Seaspray-series is primarily optimized for air-to-surface tracking and targeting.

 

[Falcon26]

Besides the aircraft platform, the main difference between the Saab Swordfish and this Sea Eagle configuration is that the Swordfish has a MAD and it uses Saab's CMS. Otherwise, they're virtually identical (same radar, ESM and even EO/IR).

For its LRMPA requirement (to replace the P-3Cs), it wouldn't surprise me if the PN simply uses the Sea Eagle configuration (with MAD and AShW capability) on board a bigger plane, like the Bombardier Global 6000 or the Embraer E195.


I think the PN's using those radars as over-the-horizon surface targeting sensors for the smaller ships, like the FAC(M).

how significant is the absence of MAD on the Sea Eagles?