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Money grows on trees, it is never an issue for Pak army:hitwall:,,,,Tunisia has it's own requirements and threat perception, they are not facing a enemy of the magnitude of Gangadesh nor rebels as tenacious or experienced as TTP.
You are buying Submarines worth 5 Billion Dollars you are producing more than 20 JF-17 per year you are producing Tanks upgrading older ones and testing new Assault Rifles and testing new Tanks and Artillery and I can tell you lot more projects. Where the money is coming for them stop giving me excuses even if we had started buying MRAP in 7 years ago in good numbers we would have around 1500 by now
 
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You are buying Submarines worth 5 Billion Dollars you are producing more than 20 JF-17 per year you are producing Tanks upgrading older ones and testing new Assault Rifles and testing new Tanks and Artillery and I can tell you lot more projects. Where the money is coming for them stop giving me excuses even if we had started buying MRAP in 7 years ago in good numbers we would have around 1500 by now
Exactly Hazrat exactly, we only have a limited budget, luxuries are for Yanks and Saudis, we have to do without.
 
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Exactly Hazrat exactly, we only have a limited budget, luxuries are for Yanks and Saudis, we have to do without.
We are fighting a war against insurgents and all investment is on conventional warfare WOW. Your nuclear weapons gave you a cover to prepare yourself counter insurgency along with equipping soldiers his travel is also important and for that MRAP were required which we failed to do and even after 14 years of insurgency in same areas over and over again our soldiers die from IED attack and Gun attack and when you see the vehicle they are travelling in that turns out to be Hilux. Sorry Sir we had the money and still do but we never invested in right place. A soldier dying and some loosing limbs and training new ones also cost a lot.
 
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We are fighting a war against insurgents and all investment is on conventional warfare WOW. Your nuclear weapons gave you a cover to prepare yourself counter insurgency along with equipping soldiers his travel is also important and for that MRAP were required which we failed to do and even after 14 years of insurgency in same areas over and over again our soldiers die from IED attack and Gun attack and when you see the vehicle they are travelling in that turns out to be Hilux. Sorry Sir we had the money and still do but we never invested in right place. A soldier dying and some loosing limbs and training new ones also cost a lot.
Well Hazrat they need to forget about the high maintenance and inaccurate SCAR, perhaps then we can procure these MRAP, besides these MRAP are very vulnerable as demonstrated by their lumbering performance in Afghanistan. May be Pak army wants troops to move in quick relatively agile vehicles compared to this slow lumbering MRAP.
@Path-Finder @DESERT FIGHTER @Ulla @Game.Invade opinion gents??? Are these MRAP worth it.
 
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Well Hazrat they need to forget about the high maintenance and inaccurate SCAR, perhaps then we can procure these MRAP, besides these MRAP are very vulnerable as demonstrated by their lumbering performance in Afghanistan. May be Pak army wants troops to move in quick relatively agile vehicles compared to this slow lumbering MRAP.
@Path-Finder @DESERT FIGHTER @Ulla @Game.Invade opinion gents??? Are these MRAP worth it.
US MRAPs are notorious for needing recovery vehicles in FATA... getting bogged in sand.. and having almost zero offroad capability.

But we still need MRAPs... our casualities are mostly due go IEDs... But also LAVs... but we cant just replace all 4X4 pickups with LAVs and MRAPs.. we dont have that much dough!
 
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Well Hazrat they need to forget about the high maintenance and inaccurate SCAR, perhaps then we can procure these MRAP, besides these MRAP are very vulnerable as demonstrated by their lumbering performance in Afghanistan. May be Pak army wants troops to move in quick relatively agile vehicles compared to this slow lumbering MRAP.
@Path-Finder @DESERT FIGHTER @Ulla @Game.Invade opinion gents??? Are these MRAP worth it.
His concerns about the lack of MRAPs and its implications are correct. but we lack funds for even basic purchases let alone MRAPs. Our friend has a shopping list but he always forget the sustenance costs of all these gadgets. Army is structurally upgrading itself and it's consuming a bulky share of the budget. Comparing our war with war in Afghanistan isn't really a good idea, our purchases are made considering both the Eastern and Western theaters.
 
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Well Hazrat they need to forget about the high maintenance and inaccurate SCAR, perhaps then we can procure these MRAP, besides these MRAP are very vulnerable as demonstrated by their lumbering performance in Afghanistan. May be Pak army wants troops to move in quick relatively agile vehicles compared to this slow lumbering MRAP.
@Path-Finder @DESERT FIGHTER @Ulla @Game.Invade opinion gents??? Are these MRAP worth it.
To truly know the worth of MRAP's you have look in history and see the South African war with Angola and Namibia. Sri Lanka is another country ask them the worth of MRAP's who faced IED's! Heck if you ever seen Grand Tour with the old Top Gear Team who go to Namibia you will know what a Harsh country that is.

It ofcourse also depends on the MRAP as well. I will always say South Africa who invented the MRAP and Used it the longest are the best to consult because Terrain of South Africa is very similar to Pakistan. Buying extremely expensive MRAP from Navistar is plain stupid because MRAP are expendable, meaning the vehicle may not survive but the crew in it can walk away safe.

 
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US MRAPs are notorious for needing recovery vehicles in FATA... getting bogged in sand.. and having almost zero offroad capability.

But we still need MRAPs... our casualities are mostly due go IEDs... But also LAVs... but we cant just replace all 4X4 pickups with LAVs and MRAPs.. we dont have that much dough!
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Sir now if this hits IED none would survive in fact even a dumbo carrying AK can cause massive loss of life because our boys are travelling in this instead we need these
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There are hundreds of options from countries like Turkey and South Africa and even Brazil and others. We are investing in Tanks buying new ones buying Artillery buying and producing Fighter Jets even Submarines but some how we forget that we are mainly fighting Gorilla warfare where soldier equipment like Optics and Night Vision and MRAP are must.

@Path-Finder @Arsalan @django
 
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Sir now if this hits IED none would survive in fact even a dumbo carrying AK can cause massive loss of life because our boys are travelling in this instead we need these
nms4x4-4x4-nurolmakina-turkey.jpg

CEZ7DxjWoAEtBCg.jpg

LAND_Cougar_4x4_lg.jpg

There are hundreds of options from countries like Turkey and South Africa and even Brazil and others. We are investing in Tanks buying new ones buying Artillery buying and producing Fighter Jets even Submarines but some how we forget that we are mainly fighting Gorilla warfare where soldier equipment like Optics and Night Vision and MRAP are must.

@Path-Finder @Arsalan @django

If I told you that the US special services in Iraq and Syria are now using similar pick up trucks, you will become a fan.
 
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