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Pakistan Health Care System NOW Better Than India After Introduction of UNIVERSAL HEALTH COVERAGE?

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-PAKISTAN HAS INTR0DUCED UNIVERSAL HEALTH COVERAGE
-SEHAT INSAF CARD (HEALTH CARD)
-(GOVT. IS SINGLE PAYER)
-COVERAGE PROVIDED BY STATE LIFE INSURANCE (GOVERNMENT OWNED)
-ALL PROVINCES AND TERRITORIES TO BE COVERED EXCEPT SINDH (DUE TO PPP PROVINCIAL GOVERMENTNOT ACCEPTING) SORRY KARACHIITES!!!!!!
-KP AND PUNJAB TAKE THE LEAD
-EVERY FAMILY COVERED FOR APPROX 1 MILLION PKR
-APPLICABLE TO BOTH GOVERNMENT AND PRIVATE HOSPTALS
-PROGRAM HOPES TO ATTRACT PRIVATE LOCAL/FOREIGN INVESTMENT IN HEALTH SECTOR IN RURAL REGIONS AS PRIVATE HOSPITALS CAN CHARGE GOVERMENT NOW FOR THE SERVICES PROVIDED
-INDIAN HEALTH CARE SYSTEMS IN SHAMBLES AFTER COVID EXPOSED IT FULLY
-INDIAN CITIZENS LEFT TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES AND LEFT TO DIE!
-WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?
-INDIANS ARE FREE TO COMMENT AND DISAGREE!

 
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Far to early to say that. Let's see it implemented nationwide first. Let's see what scope it covers too. Also let's see if it will encourage private sector investment in Healthcare. It'll be at least 10 years before we can ask this question.
 
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Step in the right direction.
I tell you this: Here in America, the idea of getting seriously sick is HORRIBLE! Most of my friends are Gorays and like me they don't have kids. It is each-couple-on-its-own here: Lightning of sickness can strike anyone. You can have some protection via Family Medical Leave of Absence (FMLA) for a limited time. But you better pray lightning doesn't strike you for cases like ours! The healthcare industry is absolutely the most GIANT LEECH you'd ever find in the world and there is not much of social-support. Everyone is for themselve.
The support provided by the Healthcare System in Pakistan would put Pakistan, in some ways, especially when combined with the huge network of charities and social support, make Pakistan a better place to be sick for many Americans as in our shoes. Of course should it ever come to that, then I'd take a chunk of money to Pakistan instead of being a leech.
America absolutely suck in healthcare unless you are very rich or are content to fleece the system!
 
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Step in the right direction.
I tell you this: Here in America, the idea of getting seriously sick is HORRIBLE! Most of my friends are Gorays and like me they don't have kids. It is each-couple-on-its-own here: Lightning of sickness can strike anyone. You can have some protection via Family Medical Leave of Absence (FMLA) for a limited time. But you better pray lightning doesn't strike you for cases like ours! The healthcare industry is absolutely the most GIANT LEECH you'd ever find in the world and there is not much of social-support. Everyone is for themselve.
The support provided by the Healthcare System in Pakistan would put Pakistan, in some ways, especially when combined with the huge network of charities and social support, make Pakistan a better place to be sick for many Americans as in our shoes. Of course should it ever come to that, then I'd take a chunk of money to Pakistan instead of being a leech.
America absolutely suck in healthcare unless you are very rich or are content to fleece the system!

It should be illegal to make billions from health care system. A medicine that may cost Rs100 will be sold at Rs1000 if its under big private businesses, where maximum profit is the goal. I can understand some profit should be made but ripping the public off is pure evil. These big cooperative companies are leeches.

Pakistan government needs to make own medicine, medical equipment. Bring in National Heath contribution system where anyone who pays tax, also contributes certain percentage to health care. This way millions of people can be given free health care.

The UK health system is one of the best, unfortunately recently they are trying to privatise some of it, bringing in USA leech companies, even medicine they want to import, so if your spending 100M on local medicine a year, importing the same medicine would cost double or even triple, they are selling of hospital buildings to private people and then renting them from the same people, within 10 years they pay so much rent that it will reach to the level they sold the building for.
 
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-PAKISTAN HAS INTR0DUCED UNIVERSAL HEALTH COVERAGE
-SEHAT INSAF CARD (HEALTH CARD)
-(GOVT. IS SINGLE PAYER)
-COVERAGE PROVIDED BY STATE LIFE INSURANCE (GOVERNMENT OWNED)
-ALL PROVINCES AND TERRITORIES TO BE COVERED EXCEPT SINDH (DUE TO PPP PROVINCIAL GOVERMENTNOT ACCEPTING) SORRY KARACHIITES!!!!!!
-KP AND PUNJAB TAKE THE LEAD
-EVERY FAMILY COVERED FOR APPROX 1 MILLION PKR
-APPLICABLE TO BOTH GOVERNMENT AND PRIVATE HOSPTALS
-PROGRAM HOPES TO ATTRACT PRIVATE LOCAL/FOREIGN INVESTMENT IN HEALTH SECTOR IN RURAL REGIONS AS PRIVATE HOSPITALS CAN CHARGE GOVERMENT NOW FOR THE SERVICES PROVIDED
-INDIAN HEALTH CARE SYSTEMS IN SHAMBLES AFTER COVID EXPOSED IT FULLY
-INDIAN CITIZENS LEFT TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES AND LEFT TO DIE!
-WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?
-INDIANS ARE FREE TO COMMENT AND DISAGREE!

lol better than india ... :D :D :D :D
can't even produce vaxines, medicines .
 
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It should be illegal to make billions from health care system. A medicine that may cost Rs100 will be sold at Rs1000 if its under big private businesses, where maximum profit is the goal. I can understand some profit should be made but ripping the public off is pure evil. These big cooperative companies are leeches.

Pakistan government needs to make own medicine, medical equipment. Bring in National Heath contribution system where anyone who pays tax, also contributes certain percentage to health care. This way millions of people can be given free health care.

The UK health system is one of the best, unfortunately recently they are trying to privatise some of it, bringing in USA leech companies, even medicine they want to import, so if your spending 100M on local medicine a year, importing the same medicine would cost double or even triple, they are selling of hospital buildings to private people and then renting them from the same people, within 10 years they pay so much rent that it will reach to the level they sold the building for.


We are going off-topic but I think it is sort of related to try to define what should work for Pakistan. As you said, people contributing to health insurance should be required for those who could afford. Why give free to someone who could afford? I am not just talking about Pakistan but about everywhere.

I'd rather live in the UK or Canada or just about any EU country in a heart-beat if healthcare coverage was the main criteria. You guys, who don't know the American healthcare system, just DON'T KNOW how corrupt, heartless and exploitative it is! On top of that, the culture is of everyone-for-themselves extreme. It is a toxic combination and I believe it manifests itself in violence, loneliness, and even psychopathic behavior. When basic human rights--such as healthcare and social connectivity are in question then a person can't be unaffected.
 
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-PAKISTAN HAS INTR0DUCED UNIVERSAL HEALTH COVERAGE
-SEHAT INSAF CARD (HEALTH CARD)
-(GOVT. IS SINGLE PAYER)
-COVERAGE PROVIDED BY STATE LIFE INSURANCE (GOVERNMENT OWNED)
-ALL PROVINCES AND TERRITORIES TO BE COVERED EXCEPT SINDH (DUE TO PPP PROVINCIAL GOVERMENTNOT ACCEPTING) SORRY KARACHIITES!!!!!!
-KP AND PUNJAB TAKE THE LEAD
-EVERY FAMILY COVERED FOR APPROX 1 MILLION PKR
-APPLICABLE TO BOTH GOVERNMENT AND PRIVATE HOSPTALS
-PROGRAM HOPES TO ATTRACT PRIVATE LOCAL/FOREIGN INVESTMENT IN HEALTH SECTOR IN RURAL REGIONS AS PRIVATE HOSPITALS CAN CHARGE GOVERMENT NOW FOR THE SERVICES PROVIDED
-INDIAN HEALTH CARE SYSTEMS IN SHAMBLES AFTER COVID EXPOSED IT FULLY
-INDIAN CITIZENS LEFT TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES AND LEFT TO DIE!
-WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?
-INDIANS ARE FREE TO COMMENT AND DISAGREE!

Good to learn about Pakistan, but it should not be a d**k measuring contest.Very few fortunate in the world have good health coverage. Because you asked, we have something called "Ayushman bharat" which covers the poorest most citizens of the India, mostly serious illnesses that require hospitalisation . Patients just needed to be citizens of India with valid ID like aadhar card. It is one good thing modi government has done ,nobody talks about. although it is far from perfect and personally i would have love to have 100% coverage, nevertheless even a poor farmer can now have THR with latest and best prosthetics or latest prosthetic valve for failing heart for nominal fee is something unprecedented in history of India. I would say it is close to universal health coverage for Indians but it is far from perfect and still require lots of modifications.

here is an article in guardian, usually famous for publishing biased news against India



It's a godsend': the healthcare scheme bringing hope to India's sick
In a country where treatment can cost two years’ wages, a new project could mean free medical care for 500 million people



Families wait for treatment outside the All India Institute of Medical Sciences


Families await medical treatment outside the All India Institute of Medical Sciences. Ayushman Bharat, a free state insurance scheme, aims to ease the burden of medical costs for India’s poor. Photographs by Amrit Dhillon

Rajiv Gupta has a distinct spring in his step. He has brought his mother to New Delhi from the northern state of Bihar for a hip replacement, for which he won’t have to pay. His mother qualified for free treatment under Ayushman Bharat, the government’s ambitious new health insurance scheme.
“I can’t quite believe this is happening. When the doctors in Bihar told me it would cost 200,000 rupees [£2,180], I took mum home. That kind of money is impossible for me. I just run a tiny sari shop. And now she’s getting it done here free,” says Gupta. Then he hurries off as though scared he has got it wrong and someone is going to present him with a bill.

Millions of people in India live in fear of getting sick, and not just because of the physical symptoms. For some, the cost of treatment can be equivalent to two years’ wages.
Launched just under six months ago, Ayushman Bharat aims to provide 500 million Indian families with health insurance of 500,000 rupees (£5,450) a year for secondary and tertiary medical care. Those eligible are the most vulnerable sections of the population.
Rapid economic growth over two decades has improved the lives of millions of people, but medical care is still unaffordable for many. Though a doctor’s consultation in government hospitals is largely free, patients have to pay for implants or stents, along with medical consumables. The cost of hospital treatment can be catastrophic, pushing an already poor family into debt.
“It is early days, but this is a game-changer,” says Dr Randeep Guleria, pulmonologist and director of the All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS) in the Indian capital. “Hospital treatment is an impossible cost for the poor – even for sections of the middle class. It’s a godsend to those who would have been kept at home by their families and left to die.”
Finance minister Arun Jaitley said recently that 62% of the Indian population have to pay healthcare bills themselves and most find it unaffordable. On Wednesday he said it was fast becoming the world’s largest free healthcare scheme.



A poster for Ayushman Bharat


A poster campaign aims to raise awareness about the Ayushman Bharat scheme
According to official data, more than 20.3 million Indians have so far qualified for the scheme. About 1.4 million people have received free treatment.

While the scheme is off to a good start, Guleria says challenges remain. The biggest is making people aware of it. Although almost 8 million people have checked on the Ayushman portal to see if they are eligible, some patients at Guleria’s hospital had no idea they could become part of the scheme.

Attempts are being made to inform the public, even in the remotest villages. Posters and banners are up at railway stations. When he drives to work, Guleria hears the radio station repeatedly playing a government jingle urging listeners to dial a number to check if they could benefit.

The national health authority, which runs the plan, is teaming up with Uber, Flipkart, Amazon and other companies to access their employee database. The scheme’s CEO, Indu Bhushan, believes many of their employees will be eligible and must be tracked down to be told of their rights.

“Currently, about 400,000 people are registering every month. We want to push this up to 1 million a month,” said Bhushan.

A second challenge is fraud, which Bhushan is anxious to prevent. “Abuse will not only be an extra financial burden, it will damage our reputation, so we need to clamp down firmly right away on fraud, on people falsely claiming this benefit, or on hospital and patient collusion to cheat the state,” he says.

A third issue is persuading more private hospitals to join the scheme. The free treatment is to be offered in government and independent hospitals, but the involvement of the latter is crucial.

Only a handful of government hospitals, such as AIIMS, offer specialist care for complex treatments and procedures, according to Girdhar J Gyani, director general of the Association of Healthcare Providers of India. “More than 80% of tertiary care in India is provided by private hospitals. But the reimbursement rates under Ayushman are irrational and far too low,” he says. “So, for example, the reimbursement for a knee replacement is nowhere near the cost incurred by a private hospital.”

If the scheme is to be implemented in letter and spirit, he added, the reimbursement rates have to be increased. The government has set up a committee to review the rates.

That said, about 6,000 private hospitals, mainly smaller ones, have joined the scheme. Some beneficiaries have been surprised to find themselves being treated at a private hospital, the exclusive enclave of the wealthy. About 60% of the scheme’s patients have been treated in private hospitals.

Shah Mohammed, 50, is recuperating at SGT hospital in Gurgaon, a large private institution in the middle of a deserted, dusty plain that caters to the surrounding villages. Mohammed suffered a fractured jaw and haematoma after his scooter crashed into another vehicle.

“I hadn’t heard of this Ayushman,” he says. “But when I was admitted here, the staff checked and found that I qualified. I can’t get over the fact that when I am discharged, I will walk out of a private hospital without paying a rupee.”


Ramesh Kumar at SGT hospital


‘I didn’t expect to be treated at a private hospital’: Ramesh Kumar at SGT hospital, in Gurgaon
In another ward at SGT, Ramesh Kumar, a 50-year-old tailor, is recovering from respiratory failure. “My wife would have had to borrow money. We just don’t have that kind of cash at home. I knew it was going to be free but I didn’t expect to be treated at a private hospital,” he says.


India's sick left out in the cold as New Delhi's top hospital struggles to cope

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Government or private, none of this matters to Sunny Kumar and his mother, Asha. Their father has been operated on for a hole in the heart at AIIMS and is doing well. “This is the first time the government has done something really concrete for the poor,” says Asha.

Nine-year-old Shiv Shankar Kumar suffers from a leaky heart valve. When his father, Mahesh Mandal, was told in his hometown of Bihar last month that treatment would cost 300,000 rupees, he took Shiv home. “My wife and I had no choice but to leave his fate to God,” says Mandal.

Later, he heard about Ayushman Bharat and registered. The day after he received his gold card, he picked his son up in his arms and boarded a train to AIIMS. Shiv has been successfully treated. Mandal swipes his phone to show his picture. “I can’t wait to take him home so that he can start his life again,” he says.
 
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Apprehensions that this program will probably also turn into just another cesspool of corruption and deliberate mismanagement aside, PTI has done God's work.


-ALL PROVINCES AND TERRITORIES TO BE COVERED EXCEPT SINDH (DUE TO PPP PROVINCIAL GOVERMENTNOT ACCEPTING)

This is a ridiculous joke. What sort of a pathetic governance system allows a provincial government to deny a federal project only concerned with the benefit of its people?
 
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This is a ridiculous joke. What sort of a pathetic governance system allows a provincial government to deny a federal project only concerned with the benefit of its people?
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WELL THAT IS GOVERNMENT OF SINDH FOR U GUYS
 
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