PAKISTAN HAS BECOME A SAFE HEAVEN OF TERRORISTS: IRANIAN MP

[bafxet]

Seems all of Pakistans neighbours have an issue with them over Terrorism.

Iran Afghnistan & India,

ARE WE SAYING ALL THREE COUNTRIES ARE lying

Seem that all of those are in good terms with India....makes a lot of sense..

 

[Storm Force]

Seem that all of those are in good terms with India....makes a lot of sense..

The entire world is on good terms with india other than Pakistan & China

 

[Max]

I clearly said that nonstate actors from pakistan will most probably launch similar attacks in china. But the network used for training , arming and indoctrination will be the same thats used against india, afghanistan and now iran.
Its inevitable that the fire will spread.
Like the americans learnt the hard way in 911.

They can be even Chinese funded by bharat like TTP or bhangi from gangaland like you, can you guarantee that they wont be.. do you know who is current chief of Al Qaeeda Subcontinent? Your proud citizen ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asim_Umar

Who were those 14 killed in MOAB attack? werent they bharati? maybe they were going to blast Chinese in Beijing.

 

[Max]

I am no supporter of modi. Indians like me just see him as a useful tool to bring some change from the corrupt congress . Nothing more. If he does not perform , he is out.
Lets not derail the discussion.

So a controversial extremist person is allowed to be PM in your country just bcoz he is less corrupt, i heard Mullah Umar was also too pious man, will you accept him as leader of a country?

what if this extremist Modi decide to genocide Chinese with nukes bcoz they are supporting Pakistan?

 

[Sugarcane]

Pakistan is not responsible to secure Iran's border, so instead of seeking easy way out it should own the failure and work for improvement of it's border security - Just to remind MP that Pakistan is also fighting alone to secure it's border against safe heavens and complete logistics supply chain for terrorists on western borders.

 

[ashok mourya]

in Western Xinjiang

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by FRANCES MARTEL 12 Jan 2017

The government of China’s Muslim-populated western region of Xinjiang has announced it is implementing new measures to keep its border with Pakistan as sealed as possible to prevent jihadist sympathizers from crossing into what many experts believe to be the world’s premier terrorist training destination.

“We need to make sure not a single terrorist can get in or out of Xinjiang illegally, especially when our neighboring countries are facing rising terrorist threats,” Xinjiang Communist Party official Aniwar Turson said of the new measures, according to the state-run China Daily. While government representatives did not specify exactly how strengthening border security would work, one official suggested that “strict inspections near the borders” would be part of the plan. Xinijang also borders Afghanistan, currently embroiled in its own war against radical Islamic groups.

The Times of India also quotes Xinjiang Communist Party chairman Shohrat Zakir as stating that the government would improve “efforts in entry-exit system to curb illegal movement of people across the border.”

The move follows an incident earlier this month in which police killed three men who attempted to attack a Communist Party office armed with knives and a bomb. Two others were killed in the attack. The South China Morning Post reports that the men involved were known to law enforcement and “suspected of carrying out an attack two years ago in Pishan county in Hotan prefecture.” While the men are believed to be ethnic Uighur separatists, the Chinese government has not identified them as such.

Indian outlets are reporting the border control news as potential evidence of tension between China and its ally (and Indian rival) Pakistan. The Times of India called the announcement a move on China’s part to “signal its displeasure about the Pakistan military’s ability to stop militants from sneaking into” Xinjiang. India.comreported that the move would seal the Chinese-Pakistani border. The Indian outlet Top Yaps bluntly referred to the announcement as a “slap in the face” to Pakistan.


China has provided Pakistan financial assistance for years and has reportedly sold Pakistan more weapons than any other country.

China has long struggled to keep Xinjiang at peace, given the prevalence of ethnic Uighurs in the country and movements within Xinjiang to separate from the Communist Party, governing from the other side of the country in Beijing. The Uighurs are a Turkic ethnic minority with their own language and are predominantly Muslims, their religion putting them at odds with the state worship inherent in communism. Xinjiang is home to terrorist groups such as the East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM), which seeks to use violence to establish an independent, Muslim state in Xinjiang.

Reports indicate that individuals who may have been swayed by ETIM in the past, however, are increasingly joining groups like the Islamic State, the Taliban, and al-Qaeda. The Chinese government has claimed that hundreds of Xinjiang Uighur residents have left the region to fight for ISIS.

In response to these reports, the Chinese government has implemented multiple measures to discourage the public practice of Islam in Xinjiang. Communist Party members are not allowed to fastin public during the Ramadan holiday, and all citizens are banned from wearing burqas generally and any sort of Islamic garb on public transportation. Shops must sell alcohol and cigarettes, haramitems, or face legal consequences. The Chinese government has also openly promoted interethnic marriage as a means to dilute the influence of Islam in the region.

 

[ashok mourya]

Worlds premium terrorist training destination. Huh

 

[rajdhani express]

The government of China’s Muslim-populated western region of Xinjiang has announced it is implementing new measures to keep its border with Pakistan as sealed as possible to prevent jihadist sympathizers from crossing into what many experts believe to be the world’s premier terrorist training destination.

Wow...That is deep, deeper than ocean.

 

[bafxet]

The entire world is on good terms with india other than Pakistan & China

How come it is entire world if a country of 1.5 billion Chinese or 22% of the world population is on odds with you? Besides, in the new international setting Russia also seems to changing its course.

Pakistan also enjoys good relations with US, Europe, Japan an rest of the world in general. India tries to siege Pakistan with the countries around us and demonstrates it hostility.

 

[The SC]

When one looks at the mountains on the west side of Pakistan, he can see that they link directly to mountains inside Iran, it is very difficult to protect mountainous terrain permanently.. and by the way most Iranian border fatalities through time came from some Drug traffickers rather than what they call terrorist. there are many videos on the net to prove this.. that is why it is difficult to understand the Iranian statements!
A strategic partnership with India, Pakistan a safe heaven of terrorists, both the event and the statement came after Iran refused to join the Islamic coalition against terrorism following an invitation by Pakistan..don't know what went behind the doors in this invitation, but Pakistan might have asked Iran to stop meddling in the neighbouring countries affairs and join the coalition to fight terrorism (otherwise everyone will think that Iran is supporting terrorism in the region), something that did not please the Iranians for sure.. there is also the fact that some Indian weapons were found with some factions in Syria!!!
Personally I do not think that Iran or KSA are supporting any terrorists in the region, but it is rather a reaction to the Western intervention in Iraq and its extension to Syria, Libya, Yemen and Sinai in Egypt.. all of them Arab and Muslim countries, hence the legitimacy of some Arab states to wonder who is behind this trouble.. then sectarianism started to appear and accusations started to fly left and right..And like I just said, the conflict in Iraq got so violent and from fear of it spilling to Iran, the latter felt it important to intervene by supporting militarily the government of Iraq, who by chance was Shia'a.. from there any Shia'a move in the region was blamed on Iran and any Sunni move to counter it was blamed on KSA in particular and the GCC in general..The same story was repeated in Yemen when the Shia'a Houthi militias tried to overthrow a Sunni legitimate government and KSA/ GCC fearing a spillover started to contain it..So we are all consumed in thinking about Shia'a vs Sunni sectarianism and forgot who are the real beneficiaries of all this trouble in regions, the ones who have planned for it and started it all..

 

[padamchen]

Sir, You have your own way to look at things and read history , But put more light on bold part please , explain it in full detail what you mean here? .
I also add one point , Look at Iran in late 60s and 70s and then from there till now. Don't only read western media check all other media too.
Don't they hate USA , but still buying 100 planes , ooo and Israel they hate them the most , But ....................................... I wont say any thing else or you will say to me stop felling for KSA propaganda. I think we both (India , Pakistan) understand them well.

Sir, I thought you were pointing out that only Persians of Iran are Hindu friendly. And not the other ethnicities (30-40%).

I honestly believe that the Iranians are the most stable Muslim country.

No bomb blasts. No sectarian or ethnic killings. No internal strife.

They are a proud country and insist on being independent in their decisions and foreign relations.

And I greatly admire their spine in standing up to the Americans, who I really do not like.

Hope that explains further.

 

[haviZsultan]

I am sorry to say this but I feel Iran's foreign policy towards Pakistan is very chauvinistic and not understanding of the problems and unknowledgeable about the facts in the country. The country, despite great relations with Saudi and UAE (which everyone here thinks should be further improved as they are giving jobs to many of us and better lifestyles) has kept Iran in mind and tried to bridge the gap between the country and arab nations. We haven't picked sides.

These militants cannot be controlled. Compare these 10 guards with 80,000 Pakistanis who have killed in the war on terror. Yet after this supreme effort in fighting terrorism the Iranian MP is calling us a state sponsor of terrorism and that after Kulbushan Yadhav being in their country. This is very unfair and Iran is well on the way to lose all allies and become isolated. I have felt sympathy with Iran over American bullying but Iranians are not looking at things in perspective.

We all know Israel had possibly killed Hariri and the blame came on Hezbollah militants. This could very much be the same thing, an attempt by Islamophobic nations like India to destroy our relations, a nation where I have lived and witnessed the same Islamophobia. This MP has fallen into the carefully dug trap they made especially for him. I will not insult Iran like the rest of the Pakistanis but I understand the resentment towards the country. Iran has to think smart. It can't ignore the deaths of its men, I understand but must also work with Pakistan to improve border management. This is very child-like behavior from Iran.

 

[Max]

Well you reveal your class and upbringing.

yeah, bcoz probably i know your bhangi class very well in your forums and their Adab o adaab when they talk about Pakistan and Pakistanis. anyways do you remember how many ID's you created here before this one?

See my posts. They are all factual , even if you want to hide behind banalities.

They are assumption and nothing. as i said Chinese can be attacked by bharati terrorists as well, or you believe you don't have terrorists of indian origin which are not radicalized in europe, GCC or even in deoband? they cant take ride to Afghanistan or any other war zone for weapon training? etc they can never join al Qaeeda or ISIS?

I repeat even if most pakistanis want to have good relations with china , the dynamics of religious suppression in china and fundamentalism in pakistan can only result in conflict .

you are ruled by a Hindu nationalist RSS's political wing called BJP still you are worry about fundamentalism in Pakistan dont worry about fundamentalism in Pakistan, talk this when we elect a Mullah as our PM or Army Chief. we never elected a Mullah as our leader, while its your 2nd term. and dont worry about China Pakistan, we are maintaining this relationship without any problem since last 70 years. we know how to manage it.

You cannot tell a zeolat that the hindus are bad infidels while chinese are goid infidels because they are paying us.

true, we cant tell them, but we are successful in stopping them from 79 when Afghan war and all this radicalization started. we will try our best.

 

[Lagay Raho]

Divide and conquer.
Iran and Pakistan cannot and must not be enemies. Are there Indian/foreign agents trying to sabotage our relations on the border?i dont know.I hope someone who actually knows what's going on the ground level - can shed some light here

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Well run out of arguments so last resort of the scoundral ...language.
Hope some sort of moderation is present on this site. Though not hopeful.

Here are Indian non state actors

http://defence.pk/threads/samjhauta-blasts-main-accused-swami-aseemanand-granted-bail.449673/

https://www.dawn.com/news/1319176/indian-citizen-gets-15-year-jail-term-on-terrorism-charges-in-us

Indians don't only produce rapists but terrorists as well...Terrorist can even become PM of India...

Reason why India is being surrounded by China is because everyone hates India to the core...