PAKISTAN - CRADLE OF CIVILIZATIONS

[Rusty]

would you snatch away the egyptian history for egypt just becayse egypt is a muslim nation now, and doesnt follow the religion of ancient egypt??

these indians are pathetic



got a problem??

There is no point in arguing with these people, they have 5 year old mentality that is soaked in ignorance, insecurity and self loathing.

They talk big about IVC but they can't even get a visa to see it

 

[dollarman]

Another one of those threads where Pakistanis behave like identity-less insecure fools. God I love these threads

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

In any case,the indus valley civilization stretched well into presnt day india.Some of these fools have never heard of lothal,dholavira.
Covering gujarat,rajasthan,indian punjab,parts of jammu,northern maharashtra.Of course pakistan existed at the time of IVC then disappeared for a couple of 1000 yrs then reappeared with mhd bin qasim.The ignorance is striking.

1]The IVC seals show SWASTIKAS which is inherent to hinduism and later the other indic faiths buddhism and jainism.
2]Phallic symbols later interpreted as the later hindu shiva lingam has been found in the remains.
3]In the formerly great city of Harappa, burials have been found that correspond to a regional culture called the Cemetery H culture. The Cemetery H culture has the earliest evidence for cremation a practice dominant in Hinduism today.
4]Linguistically the harappans are usually described by archaelogists as corresponding to proto dravidians.Pockets of the dravidian language family existing among the ancient brahui tribes of pakistan give credence to the theory.
5]The usual religious figures found in the ruins revolve around figurines of a mother goddess,symbolizing fertility, a common practice among rural hindus even today.
And a horned figure seated in a yoga 'lotus position' posture sarrounded by animals usually refered to as 'pahupati'.This lord of cattle concept was a epithet of later vedic and hindu gods rudra and shiva who fused into one.

So read about things in depth before spreading useless propaganda.Or simply say we came with the arabs.Don't display double standards.

 

[xyxmt]

Its really amusing first pakistani members here are biggest supporters of aryan invasion theory on the other hand they constantly claim to be hiers of indus valley civilisation lol

It would be real funny if Syrian claimed Greek Civilization
but being Indian no one minds you, no one pays attention...go on please

 

[RajputWarrior]

It would be real funny if Syrian claimed Greek Civilization
but being Indian no one minds you, no one pays attention...go on please

Actually think again.

There are at least 18 other videos I believe. Maybe this one video will help you and your deluded friends, and remove that MADrassa mentality

 

[Pakistanisage]

Indus Valley Civilization is Pakistan's heritage. The Indian HEARTBURN on this subject is amusing. Eat your heart out Indians.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Indus Valley Civilization is Pakistan's heritage. The Indian HEARTBURN on this subject is amusing. Eat your heart out Indians.

In any case,the indus valley civilization stretched well into presnt day india.Some of these fools have never heard of lothal,dholavira.
Covering gujarat,rajasthan,indian punjab,parts of jammu,northern maharashtra.Of course pakistan existed at the time of IVC then disappeared for a couple of 1000 yrs then reappeared with mhd bin qasim.The ignorance is striking.

1]The IVC seals show SWASTIKAS which is inherent to hinduism and later the other indic faiths buddhism and jainism.
2]Phallic symbols later interpreted as the later hindu shiva lingam has been found in the remains.
3]In the formerly great city of Harappa, burials have been found that correspond to a regional culture called the Cemetery H culture. The Cemetery H culture has the earliest evidence for cremation a practice dominant in Hinduism today.
4]Linguistically the harappans are usually described by archaelogists as corresponding to proto dravidians.Pockets of the dravidian language family existing among the ancient brahui tribes of pakistan give credence to the theory.
5]The usual religious figures found in the ruins revolve around figurines of a mother goddess,symbolizing fertility, a common practice among rural hindus even today.
And a horned figure seated in a yoga 'lotus position' posture sarrounded by animals usually refered to as 'pahupati'.This lord of cattle concept was a epithet of later vedic and hindu gods rudra and shiva who fused into one.

So read about things in depth before spreading useless propaganda.Or simply say we came with the arabs.Don't display double standards.



I'll just repost my point since you didn't get the point apparently.Archaeological evidence>noob trolling.

 

[OrionHunter]

Yes the ignorant Indians try to think that the "Republic of India" which was created in 1947 to the Indus river valley civilization.
LOL!

Republic of India refers to only what is within it's borders, not what is outside of it.

Ahhh, sigh stupid Indians, trying claim something that is not theirs.

Indus River Valley civilization mainly was within Pakistan's borders not India's or the "Republic of India's" borders.

Stupid Indians are just simply trying to obfuscate facts on the ground. Whatever happens within a nation's borders is their history.

Like Gandhara doesn't belong to the Republic of India's borders. It belongs Pakistan and perhaps to some extent Afghanistan.

Get lost Indians. Get your own culture!

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. That has resulted in the heaps of crap you've just spewed out.

Geographically, the IVC was spread over an area of some 1,260,000 km, comprising the whole of modern day Pakistan and parts of modern-day India and Afghanistan. Thus there is an Indus Valley site on the Oxus river at Shortughai in northern Afghanistan and the Indus Valley site Alamgirpur at the Hindon river located only 28 km from Delhi.

What you need is a little education. Barely passing third grade makes one write rubbish as you've just done. Probably what they also teach in your elementary school history books is that Pakistan was the Garden of Eden which Adam and Eve selected and descended from Heaven to started civilization on mother Earth! Oh yeah! That's probably why it's called the 'Land of the pure'! Because Eve remained a virgin!

 

[notorious_eagle]

Pakistan came into being in August 1947. How the dickens can it be called 'the cradle of civilizations'? Did civilization begin during Pakistan's independence? Then those born before 1947 must be from Mars!

P.S. Thank God I ain't a martian!!

In that case, India also came into being on August 15, 1947. Before the British arrived in India, there was no such thing called India. They were a bunch of loose Empires whom were hostile to each other. It largely goes to the credit of the British that they were able to unite India. Its amazing how you don't even realize that you are contradicting yourself .

 

[Dushmann]

Yes, part of India that was given to Barbarians who came from outside India (as per their own convictions) to form a new country in 1947 is cradle of civilization. Where is confusion ?
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On second thought, I think it is better to let Pakistan claim Indus valley civilization as their own and different than India. Or else all the precious archaeological sites in Pakistan will get treatment of Bamiyan Buddhas.

 

[jaibi]

I'm not sure why people think of history in pure lateral terms. India was not one entity in history, yes it did become the womb for many empires but the people didn't have a sense of being 'Indian' before the British came, do recall that nationalism was a ideology that was born from Europe and exported here. Historically, we are one of the most ancient civilisations on Earth, it runs in our blood. Asoka the Great is as much ours as it is yours, Heer-Ranja are as much ours as they are yours; it is only the modern interpretation based on politics that muddies our eyes. Yet, culture, history and even genetics tell a different tale. I recall meeting a Sikh man in Lahore who told me that is so strange that he felt an outsider when he visited Chennai but he despite himself he cannot feel like an outsider in Lahore. So if you forego the politics it's hard to segregate our heritage and I do not know why it threatens our respected national ideologies.

 

[American Pakistani]

Just like Mauryan Empire or Mugal empire all the sites located on either side of the border belong to one civilization.

First learn to spell Mughal. As for where Mughal Empire belong only one word for you "Lahore". Unfortunately our indepandant country had been merged by your country in that period. So Mughal Empire belongs to both countries not IVC. Pakistan is a gift of Indus.

 

[acid rain]

In that case, India also came into being on August 15, 1947. Before the British arrived in India, there was no such thing called India. They were a bunch of loose Empires whom were hostile to each other. It largely goes to the credit of the British that they were able to unite India. Its amazing how you don't even realize that you are contradicting yourself .

You are talking of boundaries and the state, India as a being and a civilization goes way way back - can't be said the same for Pakistan which is an artificial state created from a part of India. The term we use is "India got partitioned" and this was because Muslims felt they cannot co exist with Hindus and Muslim majority areas opted to separate out of India.

 

[Hellraiser007]

First learn to spell Mughal. As for where Mughal Empire belong only one word for you "Lahore". Unfortunately our indepandant country had been merged by your country in that period. So Mughal Empire belongs to both countries not IVC. Pakistan is a gift of Indus.

Pakistan lies extreme west of Indic civilization and the recent excavations proved that there are large amount of sites on Indian side, The sites which were found on India side on the banks of river Saraswati(dried up) predates the sites of IVC. Both are same people.

 

[American Pakistani]

Yes, part of India that was given to Barbarians who came from outside India (as per their own convictions) to form a new country in 1947 is cradle of civilization. Where is confusion ?

Pakistan was a free indepandant country, for few centuries it was merged with india doesn't mean it become land of india. Most time Pakistan remained in this current form, indepandant & one of the most known civilization IVC was in this same Pakistan. Also many times Pakistan upto Sindh, Punjab & IOK/Maqbooza Kashmir was part of Iran & Afghanistan but they never tried to claim this land like greedy from the east.