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Hi sir if I may ask is there any possibility for a Russian engines to go with ATAK /2 or something to 10 ton heli in progress for the Turks as these days Turks /Russians are well closed to each others as usa recently put some more restrictions towards Turkish defence firms
if possible to answer
thank you
The simple answer is No. The Turks need to operationalize the T129 with their indegenous engine and will do so sooner or later. Allah sends adversity the way of the muslim so they strive a little bit harder and achieve their aims eventually. For the Turks this hasbeen a gift for them from Allah A'zza Wa Jal. They will come out of it much stronger with a better product and break the shackles that have bound them.
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Hi,

there is a day and night difference between manufacturing a fighter aircraft engine and an attack helicopter engine.

Fighter aircraft engines are a totally different breed of machines like no other---or maybe like the race car engines---a race car engine that is constantly using maximum rpms and then suddenly goes down in rpm's and then suddenly back to full throttle again---up and won up and down---.

The attack helicopter engine does to go those rigors of flight and change in engine rpm's---.

The engines that operate at steadier rpm's are comparatively easy to manufacture as compared to those whose operationals ranges are between mid range to 110% of power.

So---possibly---the Turks could come with with a viable helicopter engine---.

But the deal of a turkish helicopter was a bad deal right from the gitgo---.

sanctions were obvious right from day one---.

This deal was another sabotage on the integrity of pakistani defences----.

This deal was planned by saboteurs of pakistan---make a deal to please the pakistani public---but defence weapons will never be delivered or be delayed because of known sanctions---stupid pakistanis will never know about it---and pakistan would be hurt in its defences.
About Pakistan choices....
Cobra refurbishment was stopped by US.
Zulus were sanctioned as expected.
Z-10s are not a matured and tested platform.
T-129 were a good choice but Pak should be aware that it has Honeywell engine components and export to 3rd party will come under US sanctions.
All one can say Pakistani planners are short sighted and cant get any favors even when delivering massively to Trump in Afganistan.
 
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About Pakistan choices....
Cobra refurbishment was stopped by US.
Zulus were sanctioned as expected.
Z-10s are not a matured and tested platform.
T-129 were a good choice but Pak should be aware that it has Honeywell engine components and export to 3rd party will come under US sanctions.
All one can say Pakistani planners are short sighted and cant get any favors even when delivering massively to Trump in Afganistan.

Hi,

Shahbaz Sharif stated one time---" don't dig out the deals with Turkey---".
 
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The simple answer is No. The Turks need to operationalize the T129 with their indegenous engine and will do so sooner or later. Allah sends adversity the way of the muslim so they strive a little bit harder and achieve their aims eventually. For the Turks this hasbeen a gift for them from Allah A'zza Wa Jal. They will come out of it much stronger with a better product and break the shackles that have bound them.
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Hi thanks for your reply hopefully they will overcome this problem ASAP
thank you
 
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Pakistan desperately need helicopter for Pak-Afghan border area security. Either go for drone or stop gap attack helicopter. T129 is delayed project ...doubt we ll see anytime soon...
 
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Pakistan obviously prefers T-129 over WZ-10 because religion however it will still take some years before engine is ready.
 
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Pakistan obviously prefers T-129 over WZ-10 because religion however it will still take some years before engine is ready.

U must be a total idiot to think religion has anything to do with a helicopter deal. After all Pakistan buys from china, russia and US, none of them muslim.
Who unbanned this austin powers troll? Plz ban him again, he will crap in every thread.
 
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Pakistan obviously prefers T-129 over WZ-10 because religion however it will still take some years before engine is ready.
Of course religion can make marked improvements to the T129's hot and high performance!!!!. When will you guys learn to accept that the the Z10 lost out to a helo that performed better in all the parameters it was set. Trials are on going with the Z10 ME and the results will determine what happens. The engine issue is a big one but to be honest kept the Z 10 from being competitive as well.
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