Pakistan Army's T-129 ATAK Helicopter Deal | Updates & Discussions.

[Polestar 2]

None of the helicopters you mentioned have been actively used in the hot conflict, a lot of engines, including Rolls Royce, can go up to these altitudes, do you have any idea what they can do without lubrication for 30 minutes when needed?

Is doesn't mean the turboshaft are restricted to only these few platform. If new helo coming up and the enginw fit the bill ,requirement. It can be used.

But I do know these France/Chinese engine need to pass many stringent requirement in many condition and attitude and clock a lot of working hours without failed before cert by EASA and CAAC.

 

[SgtGungHo]

Gonna take at least 2 yrs

Not even 2 years. Officials are expecting the engine to be mass-manufactured in 2024. And they say TS1400 is designed for utility helicopter, not attack helicopter and additional modification has to be made to the engine for Tai/AgustaWestland ATAK.

 

[xbat]

Not even 2 years. Officials are expecting the engine to be mass-manufactured in 2024. And they say TS1400 is designed for utility helicopter, not attack helicopter and additional modification has to be made to the engine for Tai/AgustaWestland ATAK.

and Turks are not smart enough to conduct all necessary works simultaneously , yeah! only mr SgtGungHo can think about it, bear in mind there is a turbojet variant of that engine too, you will see in the next coming moths.

May I know what speciality or different a military helicopter turboshaft vs a civilian turboshaft?

If you bother to goggle, WZ designation for Chinese turboshaft are all designated for military purposes. There is something call dual use. There is reason why this turboshaft are given the designation "WZ-16". This turboshaft is same class as LHTEC-T800. Certify by EASA which I think nobody can doubts it quality and reliability.

Not any turboshaft can passed EASA requirement as they need to be highly robust, durable and little noise emission. In fact, very few out of advance western countries can make it.

It a project onwership between France and China.

it is only politic, french government doesnt give permission for military applications

 

[DrWatson775]

This is from 2014

I would like to see T129 with PA. However this is unlikely as the powerplant (LHTEC CTS800) is US/UK export. It would be too much of a hassle (redesign/testing etc) to fit the chinese WZ9 turboshaft into the T129. Better go for CAIC WZ10 when able with modification per PA requirements.

 

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[Raja Porus]

I think Pakistan was exceptionally pleased by Atak's performance as it allowed so much time to turkey for the engines.
But if I am not wrong, she didn't tell which engine will be in those helicopters?

 

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I think Pakistan was exceptionally pleased by Atak's performance as it allowed so much time to turkey for the engines.
But if I am not wrong, she didn't tell which engine will be in those helicopters?

it wont be the honeywell engine as they are not going to be released.

 

[Raja Porus]

it wont be the honeywell engine as they are not going to be released.

Yep, but I asked it as she was constantly saying that Pakistani lobby is busy so I wanted to ask for what reason?

 

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Yep, but I asked it as she was constantly saying that Pakistani lobby is busy so I wanted to ask for what reason?

maybe attempts are being made to get the export clearance for the engines. But the writing on the wall has been that it will be denied. Even more so than before.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

she is not saying anything new but all depends upon two conditions :
1) US to allow their engines on Pakistan T129s - looks quite unlikely
2) Turkey workaround solution - their own engine which is again highly unlikely they can produce it in 1-2 years time.

So there is no breakthrough for Pakistan T129 project as of now. So her claim of good news is not correct.

 

[GriffinsRule]

No news in this clip, just a waste of time watching it. All she is saying is we hope and pray the lobbying will work and we will get the helicopter.

 

[khanasifm]

per her 6-8 heli delivery in 2021 either based on uS engine or local made

let’s see plus oak order now for atak or version2 as they delivery is delayed ,orig ally 6-8 were expected in 2019

 

[SQ8]

Unknown random person on 10min production youtube video - Pakistan getting US Helicopters
PDF qaum: Congratulations AH-64E + Commanche confirmed!!

PDF TT & professionals with years of experience in industry/service/following industry news/analysis:
“We are making efforts to negotiate some minor components to be released “

PDF qaum: “Show proof in signed contract, airline tickets, hotel bills and selfies with each serial number or you know nothing!!”

eh @fatman17 @Dazzler @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @araz @PanzerKiel @Bratva @Irfan Baloch

 

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per her 6-8 heli delivery in 2021 either based on uS engine or local made

let’s see plus oak order now for atak or version2 as they delivery is delayed ,orig ally 6-8 were expected in 2019

Maybe we got engine authorization?

 

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LOCAL ENGINE COMING TO ATTACKS! TURKEY GIANTS LEAGUE COMES to! CLEAR ANSWER TO PAKISTAN EMBARGO