Pakistan Army's T-129 ATAK Helicopter Deal | Updates & Discussions.

[Pakhtoon yum]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1217096597143801856

That's not good. Just move on already! Cancel the deal and go for the Z10 and Z20 joint version like jf17

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Now, Pak will get the ATAKs with indigenous engines no matter how long it takes!! What can be a better news?!?

 

[BHarwana]

That's not good. Just move on already! Cancel the deal and go for the Z10 and Z20 joint version like jf17

Nope why cancel it buy additional z10 and let T129 come as well. We need them all.

 

[Great Janjua]

That's not good. Just move on already! Cancel the deal and go for the Z10 and Z20 joint version like jf17

The Turks are offering us joint production off their upcoming heavy attack helicopter and transport helicopter much better than the Chinese option

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

The Turks are offering us joint production off their upcoming heavy attack helicopter and transport helicopter much better than the Chinese option

It means a whole “ecosystem” of choppers for Pak!! And, they can produce them locally with tons of local inputs at every stage....

 

[Great Janjua]

It means a whole “ecosystem” of choppers for Pak!! And, they can produce them locally with tons of local inputs at every stage....

insha'Allah many more good things to come insha'Allah

 

[hussain0216]

We need to stick with this

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

We need to stick with this

“Eat grass” but will have the CHOPPER...

Pak is an adamant nation....

 

[blain2]

That's not good. Just move on already! Cancel the deal and go for the Z10 and Z20 joint version like jf17

Why move on? Why not give Turks the support they need to get this right? T-129 is a good product. They have their first international contract with Pakistan and Pakistan can afford to wait.

This is how the eco-system will be built. It won't be easy but in the long run, it is laying the foundation of an independent military-industrial complex in the Muslim world that is free from sanctions and arm twisting by the dominating powers.

Pakistan goes the extra mile for Turkey, in the future they too will do it for Pakistan.

“Eat grass” but will have the CHOPPER...

Pak is an adamant nation....

Absolutely. Once bitten, twice shy. I think both Pakistan and Turkey can relate to that.

 

[undercover JIX]

Pakistan extends Turkey’s deadline to deliver T129 helos
By: Burak Ege Bekdil   7 hours ago
U.S. reluctance to grant Turkey technology export licenses.

With the American move now seriously jeopardizing the sale, the Turkish government has tasked Tusas Engine Industries, TAI’s sister company, with developing an indigenous engine for the T129.

“Pakistan has agreed to give us another year [to resolve the problem]. We hope we will be able to develop our indigenous engine soon to power the T129,” Ismail Demir, the head of Turkey’s top procurement agency, said Jan. 6. “After one year, Pakistan may be satisfied with the level of progress in our engine program, or the U.S. may grant us the export license.”

In 2018, TAI signed a $1.5 billion agreement to sell a batch of 30 T129 helos to Pakistan. However, the company needs to secure U.S. export licenses for any export deal with a third country. TAI produces the 5-ton attack helicopter, which is based on its predecessor, the A129 Mangusta.

The T129 is a twin-engine multirole attack helicopter produced under license from the Italian-British company AgustaWestland. It’s powered by two LHTEC T800-4A turboshaft engines. Each engine can produce 1,014 kilowatts of output power. The T800-4A is an export version of the CTS800 engine. LHTEC, the maker of the engine, is a joint venture between the American firm Honeywell and the British company Rolls-Royce.

A procurement source told Defense News on Jan. 10 that Pakistan is also lobbying the U.S. to support the deal.

But U.S. diplomatic sources in Ankara said it’s unlikely Washington will issue the license given the cold nature of U.S.-Turkish defense procurement ties. The U.S. last year suspended Turkey’s membership in the multinational Joint Strike Fighter program in response to Turkey’s acquisition of the Russian-made S-400 air defense system.

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But industry sources warn that any successful engine development program would take at least five to 10 years.

TAI recently delivered its 56th helicopter gunship to the Turkish military.

https://www.defensenews.com/global/...tends-turkeys-deadline-to-deliver-t129-helos/

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Win-win for both...

Sabr and Shukr under the relentless Mujadele...

"Eat grass" but have the CHOPPER...

*Whenever Pak gets into "eat grass" mode it's the time to panic for her enemies!!! The greatest "eat grass" moment/act/scene etc. IMO is that vis-à-vis India

 

[StormBreaker]

Pakistan extends Turkey’s deadline to deliver T129 helos
By: Burak Ege Bekdil   7 hours ago
U.S. reluctance to grant Turkey technology export licenses.

With the American move now seriously jeopardizing the sale, the Turkish government has tasked Tusas Engine Industries, TAI’s sister company, with developing an indigenous engine for the T129.

“Pakistan has agreed to give us another year [to resolve the problem]. We hope we will be able to develop our indigenous engine soon to power the T129,” Ismail Demir, the head of Turkey’s top procurement agency, said Jan. 6. “After one year, Pakistan may be satisfied with the level of progress in our engine program, or the U.S. may grant us the export license.”

In 2018, TAI signed a $1.5 billion agreement to sell a batch of 30 T129 helos to Pakistan. However, the company needs to secure U.S. export licenses for any export deal with a third country. TAI produces the 5-ton attack helicopter, which is based on its predecessor, the A129 Mangusta.

The T129 is a twin-engine multirole attack helicopter produced under license from the Italian-British company AgustaWestland. It’s powered by two LHTEC T800-4A turboshaft engines. Each engine can produce 1,014 kilowatts of output power. The T800-4A is an export version of the CTS800 engine. LHTEC, the maker of the engine, is a joint venture between the American firm Honeywell and the British company Rolls-Royce.

A procurement source told Defense News on Jan. 10 that Pakistan is also lobbying the U.S. to support the deal.

But U.S. diplomatic sources in Ankara said it’s unlikely Washington will issue the license given the cold nature of U.S.-Turkish defense procurement ties. The U.S. last year suspended Turkey’s membership in the multinational Joint Strike Fighter program in response to Turkey’s acquisition of the Russian-made S-400 air defense system.

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But industry sources warn that any successful engine development program would take at least five to 10 years.

TAI recently delivered its 56th helicopter gunship to the Turkish military.

https://www.defensenews.com/global/...tends-turkeys-deadline-to-deliver-t129-helos/

@Mangus Ortus Novem

Do you see this from a different perspective?

A possibility not to be ignored at least !!

The article mentions the engine sourcing issue related to us-turk relations, while at the same time, Pak gives an extended period.

Maybe AH-1Z Vipers coming after all soon !!!

WHAT DO YOU SAY ?

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

"Eat grass" but have the CHOPPER...

We have a 'horse' personality so we dont mind it..

 

[StormBreaker]

We win. Turks win.

Good that Turks are investing in engine... down the road we need a lot of helliz...and localised production.. so I say great news!

Viperz ... sure... Khafee said so...

You still Didnt get my POV

“Ye lelo, Engine nai denge”

Off course, the “ye lelo” has many other clauses attached

We have a 'horse' personality so we dont mind it..

Imam ul haq?

 

[StormBreaker]

Then we must refuse! NO MORE!

We don't want to ever hear DoMore!

Hmm
If that’s the attitude during dealings, i wouldnt Relate this news to vipers.

That was a mere poor speculation or guess from my side