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Rooivalk was never an option, the South Africans after having a bad experience of not being able to sell the mobile Howitzer will be extremely reluctant to provide a free helicopter for trials in PakistanI think due to the circumstances we seem to be heading in this direction. or maybe rooivalk can be re-visited.
Unfortunately Turkish are making us fool.
why they are not offering an alternative western engine for T-129.
Can we upgrade them to S standad?Not to mention, they are already getting refurbished in Pakistan
why Turkish are not integrating Russian & European engine variantIt's not as easy as that. It's not plug and play let's change engine
why Turkish are not integrating Russian & European engine variant
firstly, it is not rejected by the US government officially yet.why Turkish are not integrating Russian & European engine variant
1- Because Turkey is focused on entirely own(or fully authorized) intellectual properties solutions, due to other future platform plannings. TEI, TRmotor, Tümosan, BMC etc. I think the largest funding support is being used for the engine industries currently. Overcoming this problem forever is now the most important priority of the SSB. Also There are many strategic partnerships with both the UK and Ukraine.why Turkish are not integrating Russian & European engine variant
IIRC most of the Rooivalk's development cost was written down after the 1990s. The project Denel is proposing is basically (1) reviving the manufacturing line and (2) upgrading the platform. The intended upgrades are primarily in terms of electronics and munitions, but the airframe and engine will remain the same. So, the net-cost (after write-down) shouldn't be as much as the T129. Even the engine is an old (but still produced) platform (Makila).Those who're talking about Rooivalk should think about why the program has been in shambles. Pakistan will have to invest in Denel much more than what Turkey did with AW, since AW already had the full helicopter ready, with lower import content than that of Rooivalk.
And then you can wait years.
I'm talking about Denel having to localize the imported content themselves first. They're dependent on Eurocopter/Airbus for vital components, aren't they? Much worse than what AW imported for A129. Airbus would rather sell their own helis.IIRC most of the Rooivalk's development cost was written down after the 1990s. The project Denel is proposing is basically (1) reviving the manufacturing line and (2) upgrading the platform. The intended upgrades are primarily in terms of electronics and munitions, but the airframe and engine will remain the same. So, the net-cost (after write-down) shouldn't be as much as the T129. Even the engine is an old (but still produced) platform (Makila).
That said, if the costs are higher, then that is the cost of bringing an attack helicopter production line to Pakistan, especially a heavyweight platform for anti-armour operations. It's a cost we will run into eventually, just as the PAF had run into with regard to fighters (twice now). Yes, it'll push procurement back by a few years, but our GHQ has a policy of de-escalation, affording us space for this kind of development.
India is building a solid mix of lightweight (5-6 ton) and heavyweight (10+ ton) attack helicopters via the LUH and Apache, respectively. I'd much rather we counter this disproportionately by building a large fleet (120+) of 9-10+ ton attack helicopters. The procurement cost is higher, but with a local production line we can stream a low-rate induction (5~6 helicopters a year).
Yep -- LCH*I'm talking about Denel having to localize the imported content themselves first. They're dependent on Eurocopter/Airbus for vital components, aren't they? Much worse than what AW imported for A129. Airbus would rather sell their own helis.
You always say LUH instead of LCH, I think. LUH is the Light Utility Helicopter.
why Turkish are not integrating Russian & European engine variant