Pakistan Army's T-129 ATAK Helicopter Deal | Updates & Discussions.

[Blue Marlin]

@cabatli_53 will pakistan still get the LHTEC T800, or will they get a foreign engine like the mtr390?

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Is this dead?

 

[Flight of falcon]

Is this dead?

No it’s not. First helicopter is expected in 2020 and Turks will deliver. No worries.

 

[thunderkaka]

Why ?

Pakistan offers 52 Super Mushak aircraft to Turkey

Pakistan has offered 52 Super Mushak Aircraft to Turkey under the Pak-Turk Strategic Economic Framework (SEF).

According to sources, the prime minister recently approved the action plan for Pak-Turk Strategic Economic Framework (SEF) in which the Pakistani side has sought Turkish cooperation in various sectors of the economy.

As per details, cooperation in defence production includes delivery of 30 attack helicopters to Pakistan Army, delivery of 52 Super Mushak to Turkey, Turkish collaboration with Pak defence production establishment for cooperation in the fields of avionics, IT communications, weapons, ammunition, security vehicles and vessels.

Pakistan has also requested Turkey to build four ships for Pakistan Navy – two in Turkey and two in Pakistan.

https://profit.pakistantoday.com.pk/2019/04/11/pakistan-offers-52-super-mushak-to-turkey/

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

No it’s not. First helicopter is expected in 2020 and Turks will deliver. No worries.

Good to hear. I hope we contribute and jointly develop the new halo too. That would be a lot of experience and knowledge gained by kamra

 

[Dazzler]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1125303193011929088

 

[RadarGudumluMuhimmat]

We're fooling ourselves. TAI spent more than $ 3 billion on intellectual and property certification and technology consulting for the T129, and body technology for the T625 and other future helicopters. Pakistan 's participation in the new helicopter program will be of no use. For licensed production, there is no need for such fanfare.

 

[CAN_TR]

We're fooling ourselves. TAI spent more than $ 3 billion on intellectual and property certification and technology consulting for the T129, and body technology for the T625 and other future helicopters. Pakistan 's participation in the new helicopter program will be of no use. For licensed production, there is no need for such fanfare.

What TAI gained from it is worth a lot more... knowledge.

 

[MastanKhan]

We're fooling ourselves. TAI spent more than $ 3 billion on intellectual and property certification and technology consulting for the T129, and body technology for the T625 and other future helicopters. Pakistan 's participation in the new helicopter program will be of no use. For licensed production, there is no need for such fanfare.

Hi,

Welcome to the forum---. TAI knows better---there is a reason for pakistan's participation---.

Money in itself is nothing---ask the chinese J10 team that built the J10A---till Paf got involved---it became a different aircraft afterwards---and had far reaching effects on other fighter aircraft programs---.

 

[RadarGudumluMuhimmat]

Hi,

Welcome to the forum---. TAI knows better---there is a reason for pakistan's participation---.

Money in itself is nothing---ask the chinese J10 team that built the J10A---till Paf got involved---it became a different aircraft afterwards---and had far reaching effects on other fighter aircraft programs---.

I don't think the problem is Pakistan's ability anyway. Even for TAI FX, which has not fully started, TAI will want to see Pakistan with it. But I don't think TAI will only give the hull ownership rights that it spent billions of dollars to acquire for Atak 2 for partnership in a single helicopter. Unlike other users in the forum, I don't like to sell dream because it's more time

 

[MastanKhan]

I don't think the problem is Pakistan's ability anyway. Even for TAI FX, which has not fully started, TAI will want to see Pakistan with it. But I don't think TAI will only give the hull ownership rights that it spent billions of dollars to acquire for Atak 2 for partnership in a single helicopter. Unlike other users in the forum, I don't like to sell dream because it's more time

Hi,

This last part is agreeable---.

 

[umair86]

Engines are still issue

 

[TRNDSTTR]

Do we really need electronic defense systems on our helicopters made by Aselsan? Those guys are soft and cuddly with NATO so I'm not sure. The Chinese CAIC Z-10 is a pretty solid option and so is the Eurocopter. All tried and tested.

 

[blain2]

We're fooling ourselves. TAI spent more than $ 3 billion on intellectual and property certification and technology consulting for the T129, and body technology for the T625 and other future helicopters. Pakistan 's participation in the new helicopter program will be of no use. For licensed production, there is no need for such fanfare.

Licensed production is something to herald with fanfare. You have to look at where the local industry is. We are at point zero on rotary platform development. Starting off with just licensed production (or even assembly) is a massive step on to a new vector for the aerospace industry in Pakistan. Let's not take anything for granted.

The Turks have been an invaluable friend to us on very many fronts. May God bless them always! My one hope for them is that they manage the F-35 program very deftly with the Americans and stay in it along with their S-400 induction. The former will be a massive boon for the Turkish aviation industry.

 

[xbat]

bad news for ATAK engine , according to Cumhuriyet newspaper , us didnt approved for sale

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/turkiye/1489255/ATAK_a_motor_engeli.html