Pakistan Army's T-129 ATAK Helicopter Deal | Updates & Discussions.

[bananarepublic]

My opinion is that Pakistan should cooperate with south Africa in this field
Its an untapped market for military cooperation and furthermore engine technology can be gained from the south Africans

They can literally build our helicopter industry

 

[thunderkaka]

T-129 ATAK to replace the ageing AH-1F Cobra gunships

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As Pakistan-Turkey relations continue to blossom, Pakistan will procure 30 T-129 ATAK gunship helicopters from Turkey. Pakistan and Turkey signed the deal of the T-129 ATAK helicopters on Friday after the extensive trials of the attack helicopters concluded in Pakistan. As per initial estimates, the deal between Ankara and Islamabad is being described as being worth $1.5 billion.

The deal is one of the largest single defence export deal ever made by Turkey. T-129 ATAK helicopter gunship is a development of Italian Agusta A 129 Mangusta and is equipped with high and hot capabilities.

T-129 attack helicopters will replace the ageing fleet of AH-1F Cobra gunships which are currently a part of the Pakistani defence forces. The AH-1F Cobra fleet is now worn out and is not very capable of scaling higher altitudes. The twin turboshaft engines of the T-129 ATAK helicopter gunship is the highlight feature that impressed Pakistan the most.

T-129 attack helicopters are equipped with Turkish sensors and weaponry along with highly powerful engines. T-129 ATAK helicopter gunship was extensively tested in Pakistan by the Pakistan Army in the summer of 2016 and it highly impressed the defence forces of Pakistan. 3 T-129 ATAK helicopter gunships even participated in the Pakistan Pride Day Parade on March 23 and this includes first hinted at Pakistan’s plans of procuring the T-129 ATAK helicopter gunships from Turkey.

China too sent three of its CAIC Z-10 helicopters to Pakistan for trials which were later returned to China. It seemed like the CAIC Z-10 gunship helicopters did not please the Pakistan Army much. But the T-129 ATAK helicopters surely did and they would soon be seen as a part of Pakistan’s military. As reported by the Turkish media, this deal between Pakistan and Turkey will also include ammunition, logistics, spare parts and training.

https://eurasiantimes.com/pakistan-soon-acquire-30-t-129-helicopter-gunships-turkey/

 

[RadarGudumluMuhimmat]

T-129 ATAK to replace the ageing AH-1F Cobra gunships

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As Pakistan-Turkey relations continue to blossom, Pakistan will procure 30 T-129 ATAK gunship helicopters from Turkey. Pakistan and Turkey signed the deal of the T-129 ATAK helicopters on Friday after the extensive trials of the attack helicopters concluded in Pakistan. As per initial estimates, the deal between Ankara and Islamabad is being described as being worth $1.5 billion.

The deal is one of the largest single defence export deal ever made by Turkey. T-129 ATAK helicopter gunship is a development of Italian Agusta A 129 Mangusta and is equipped with high and hot capabilities.

T-129 attack helicopters will replace the ageing fleet of AH-1F Cobra gunships which are currently a part of the Pakistani defence forces. The AH-1F Cobra fleet is now worn out and is not very capable of scaling higher altitudes. The twin turboshaft engines of the T-129 ATAK helicopter gunship is the highlight feature that impressed Pakistan the most.

T-129 attack helicopters are equipped with Turkish sensors and weaponry along with highly powerful engines. T-129 ATAK helicopter gunship was extensively tested in Pakistan by the Pakistan Army in the summer of 2016 and it highly impressed the defence forces of Pakistan. 3 T-129 ATAK helicopter gunships even participated in the Pakistan Pride Day Parade on March 23 and this includes first hinted at Pakistan’s plans of procuring the T-129 ATAK helicopter gunships from Turkey.

China too sent three of its CAIC Z-10 helicopters to Pakistan for trials which were later returned to China. It seemed like the CAIC Z-10 gunship helicopters did not please the Pakistan Army much. But the T-129 ATAK helicopters surely did and they would soon be seen as a part of Pakistan’s military. As reported by the Turkish media, this deal between Pakistan and Turkey will also include ammunition, logistics, spare parts and training.

https://eurasiantimes.com/pakistan-soon-acquire-30-t-129-helicopter-gunships-turkey/

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[TOPGUN]

New page will be opened with Atak-2..

DIRCM Infrared counter measure system
Mildar MMW radar
30mm cannon with buried munition box
3 weapon station on each wing
360 degree electronic warfare counter measure systems (HEHSIS) buried into fuselage
16 Long range ATGM carriage capacity
Heavy armor protection (Cockpit protection against 12,7mm)
10 t MTOW (T-129 Atak : 5t MTOW)

So PA will buy these as well ?

 

[Signalian]

The AH-1F Cobra fleet is now worn out and is not very capable of scaling higher altitudes. The twin turboshaft engines of the T-129 ATAK helicopter gunship is the highlight feature that impressed Pakistan the most.

AH-1F is still active in modern armies currently. The major issue is the single engine scaling high altitudes which twin engines of T-129 as well as AH-1Z can scale. When withdrawn from WOT, AH-1F is a capable Anti Tank Gunship can be effectively used in plains and deserts against enemy armor.

So PA will buy these as well ?

That's the components of ATAK II. It will be interesting if an upgrade is possible for the ones that PAA buys.

 

[mingle]

I like ATAK 2 looks like Apachi twin I feel would be a great addition against armour

 

[Philip the Arab]

Rooivalk MK II anyone? Only F*cking 12 were built, that number is trash.

 

[jupiter2007]

Rooivalk MK II anyone? Only F*cking 12 were built, that number is trash.

We should have bought the platform with technology but our General wanted American goods because their wives can do free shopping in America and their children can go to college for Free.

 

[GriffinsRule]

AH-1F is still active in modern armies currently. The major issue is the single engine scaling high altitudes which twin engines of T-129 as well as AH-1Z can scale. When withdrawn from WOT, AH-1F is a capable Anti Tank Gunship can be effectively used in plains and deserts against enemy armor.

Both these statements are true. PA Cobras are pretty worn out, and PA will still be using them against Indian armor in any future conflict to good effect.
The reason is, using an older piece of equipment alongside something a two generations ahead, also effectively increases the former's capability and lethality as the newer platforms act as force multipliers. Pakistan will use both the ATAK and Cobras concurrently and with some very minor upgrades to the avionics of the AH-1Fs (akin to what Jordan is doing for eg) will keep them relevant for some years to come.

 

[xbat]

When withdrawn from WOT, AH-1F is a capable Anti Tank Gunship can be effectively used in plains and deserts against enemy armor.

what missile can AH1F fire other than TOW? it is a duck while its firing a tow for 20 seconds, todays war environment is very different than 20 years ago. enemy would shot you down in seconds with manpads.

 

[Cuirassier]

Can fire Baktar Shikan. Also notable for it's ability to hover very close to the ground.

what missile can AH1F fire other than TOW? it is a duck while its firing a tow for 20 seconds, todays war environment is very different than 20 years ago. enemy would shot you down in seconds with manpads.

 

[Signalian]

what missile can AH1F fire other than TOW? it is a duck while its firing a tow for 20 seconds, todays war environment is very different than 20 years ago. enemy would shot you down in seconds with manpads.

If you are playing a video game, yes.

 

[xbat]

Can fire Baktar Shikan. Also notable for it's ability to hover very close to the ground.

so you'r gonna die in short time, Turkey was dire to need just a couple super cobra for years, US couldnt provide us for some reasons, we only could get 3 super cobra in 2012 just before ATAKs went serial production. We know how important to have a real gunship, when your soldiers need, you have to provide real CAS otherwise casualties are inevitable.

 

[Army research]

If you are playing a video game, yes.

Yeah , in war thunder the tunguska with AHEAD shreds ah1z's , they're usually hidden and use their team mates light tanks to go fast in the open, the helicopter spots and comes closers , tunguska shreds it while it's entire focus is on trying to get a lock on a zig zagging 72kmh tiny tank

 

[Keysersoze]

what missile can AH1F fire other than TOW? it is a duck while its firing a tow for 20 seconds, todays war environment is very different than 20 years ago. enemy would shot you down in seconds with manpads.

Even the most skilled manpad operator would take longer to set up..A volley of TOWs would give any tank column a significant emotional event.