What's new

Pakistan army battles Taliban for strategic valley

daring dude

FULL MEMBER
Joined
Jul 22, 2013
Messages
836
Reaction score
0
Country
Pakistan
Location
Australia
d0d0b48dbcacef7e14dc75d9d1fcd711b7b520ef-1ahuk39.jpg

Pakistan army battles Taliban for strategic valley
Peshawar (Pakistan) (AFP) - High in the mountains along the Afghan border, Pakistan's fight against Taliban militants is focusing on their last, fearsome redoubt -- the notorious Tirah Valley, home to renegades and rebels for centuries.

The military has mounted a series of air strikes and ground assaults in Tirah in recent weeks that it says have captured key passes in a remote region that has never before come under full government control.

The operation in Tirah, part of Khyber tribal area, aims to build on the army's offensive against strongholds of Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and other militant groups in nearby North Waziristan that began in June last year.

Last month the army said it killed at least 230 militants in Tirah, which has long been a hideout for TTP ally Lashkar-e-Islam (LI).

Security officials in the northwest told AFP that the so-called Khyber II operation to shut down LI's hideouts in Tirah began in earnest on March 18, and ground skirmishes are continuing.

Chief military spokesman Major General Asim Bajwa tweeted last week that the strategic Masatul pass, which links to Afghanistan's restive Nangarhar province, had been secured.

A security source in the northwest said other important passes had also been taken.

"We have taken over three main strategic locations by moving ground forces to Masatul Pass, Takhtakai mountain and Sokh area," one security source told AFP.

"With these gains, we have blocked their movement from and to Orakzai tribal region, Kurram, Bara and Afghanistan."

The area is remote and off-limits to journalists, making it difficult to verify the army's claims -- and the number and identity of those killed.

TTP spokesman Muhammad Khurasani denied the claims, saying his group has killed 30 soldiers so far and lost only three militants.

- Fierce independence -

If the operation is a success and the military brings Tirah under government control, it will end the renegade status the area has enjoyed for hundreds of years.

Tirah's geography makes it an almost perfect hideout. Rather than a single valley, it is a network of peaks and vales covering an area of 1500-1800 square kilometres (600-700 square miles) at altitudes of up to 2,500 metres (8,000 feet).

The valleys are steep-sided and covered to a large extent with dense woodland. There are no roads in the area, with locals largely relying on mules and horses for transport.

Tirah also has some of Pakistan's most fertile land for marijuana and opium, which has helped militant groups fund their activities.

To the north the Spin Ghar mountain range, soaring to a highest point of nearly 4,800 metres, separates Tirah from Afghanistan's Tora Bora, where Osama bin Laden reputedly hid out after the US invasion in 2001.

This isolation and inaccessibility have made the area an easy place to hide, a hard place to control and a favoured bolthole for rebels since the days of the Mughal empire.

- Taliban bolthole -

But it is not Tirah's history that is motivating the army's current charge.

The fight against militants was given fresh impetus in December when TTP gunmen massacred more than 150 people, most of them children, at a school in the northwestern city of Peshawar.

Tirah's eastern end leads directly to the plain on which Peshawar sits and army chiefs believe securing it will help stop attacks on the city and its suburban hinterland.

"This is the last hideout for LI militants and their TTP affiliates. This is the battle of their survival and military action will curtail the movement of Taliban," a security official privy to the latest fighting told AFP.

Security analyst Imtiaz Gul agreed taking Tirah would help secure Peshawar, which has borne the brunt of the TTP's nearly eight-year fight against the state.

"It will degrade their capability and dislodge their shelters. Denying a space to the militants and clearing an important bastion such as Tirah will curtail the overall movement of the militants," Gul told AFP.

Besides the strategic importance of the captured locations, officials say Tirah is the only hideout left in Pakistan for TTP chief Mullah Fazlullah.

Fazlullah, believed to have ordered the 2012 murder attempt on schoolgirl campaigner Malala Yousafzai, became public enemy number one for many in Pakistan after the Peshawar massacre.

"Fazlullah either remains in Afghanistan or in Tirah. We started this operation based on reports that he has arrived in Tirah. If we clear this area from the militants, he won't have any place to hide," a security official said.
 
. . .
Sorry, I did not elaborate. I meant bomb those jungles where they hide. And I said evacuate the civilians first. These b!@#ards are putting up a fight now, so excessive force has to be used now.

@SipahSalar
Kill all Talibs yes but destroy the whole valley thats way to extreme. Have you ever even seen pictures of Tirah?? It is one of the most beautiful places i have ever seen and you want it destroyed for few 100's of Talibs.
 
.
Pakistani military entered the Tirah Valley in 2002, that was the first time in Pakistan's history. It is now 2015.
 
.
Best of luck Pakistan Army

Souround them, make them feel how loosing is like, and kill all without leaving a single militant. Our prayers, our best wishes are with u you.
 
.
what ever, but they are surrounded , and without supplies and food, they cant stay for long... So break all the communications & transportation links from outer areas, so they must have to come out of their comfort zone for food or supplies, then they can be easily handled... or other wise will die without food....
 
.
d0d0b48dbcacef7e14dc75d9d1fcd711b7b520ef-1ahuk39.jpg

Pakistan army battles Taliban for strategic valley
Peshawar (Pakistan) (AFP) - High in the mountains along the Afghan border, Pakistan's fight against Taliban militants is focusing on their last, fearsome redoubt -- the notorious Tirah Valley, home to renegades and rebels for centuries.

The military has mounted a series of air strikes and ground assaults in Tirah in recent weeks that it says have captured key passes in a remote region that has never before come under full government control.

The operation in Tirah, part of Khyber tribal area, aims to build on the army's offensive against strongholds of Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and other militant groups in nearby North Waziristan that began in June last year.

Last month the army said it killed at least 230 militants in Tirah, which has long been a hideout for TTP ally Lashkar-e-Islam (LI).

Security officials in the northwest told AFP that the so-called Khyber II operation to shut down LI's hideouts in Tirah began in earnest on March 18, and ground skirmishes are continuing.

Chief military spokesman Major General Asim Bajwa tweeted last week that the strategic Masatul pass, which links to Afghanistan's restive Nangarhar province, had been secured.

A security source in the northwest said other important passes had also been taken.

"We have taken over three main strategic locations by moving ground forces to Masatul Pass, Takhtakai mountain and Sokh area," one security source told AFP.

"With these gains, we have blocked their movement from and to Orakzai tribal region, Kurram, Bara and Afghanistan."

The area is remote and off-limits to journalists, making it difficult to verify the army's claims -- and the number and identity of those killed.

TTP spokesman Muhammad Khurasani denied the claims, saying his group has killed 30 soldiers so far and lost only three militants.

- Fierce independence -

If the operation is a success and the military brings Tirah under government control, it will end the renegade status the area has enjoyed for hundreds of years.

Tirah's geography makes it an almost perfect hideout. Rather than a single valley, it is a network of peaks and vales covering an area of 1500-1800 square kilometres (600-700 square miles) at altitudes of up to 2,500 metres (8,000 feet).

The valleys are steep-sided and covered to a large extent with dense woodland. There are no roads in the area, with locals largely relying on mules and horses for transport.

Tirah also has some of Pakistan's most fertile land for marijuana and opium, which has helped militant groups fund their activities.

To the north the Spin Ghar mountain range, soaring to a highest point of nearly 4,800 metres, separates Tirah from Afghanistan's Tora Bora, where Osama bin Laden reputedly hid out after the US invasion in 2001.

This isolation and inaccessibility have made the area an easy place to hide, a hard place to control and a favoured bolthole for rebels since the days of the Mughal empire.

- Taliban bolthole -

But it is not Tirah's history that is motivating the army's current charge.

The fight against militants was given fresh impetus in December when TTP gunmen massacred more than 150 people, most of them children, at a school in the northwestern city of Peshawar.

Tirah's eastern end leads directly to the plain on which Peshawar sits and army chiefs believe securing it will help stop attacks on the city and its suburban hinterland.

"This is the last hideout for LI militants and their TTP affiliates. This is the battle of their survival and military action will curtail the movement of Taliban," a security official privy to the latest fighting told AFP.

Security analyst Imtiaz Gul agreed taking Tirah would help secure Peshawar, which has borne the brunt of the TTP's nearly eight-year fight against the state.

"It will degrade their capability and dislodge their shelters. Denying a space to the militants and clearing an important bastion such as Tirah will curtail the overall movement of the militants," Gul told AFP.

Besides the strategic importance of the captured locations, officials say Tirah is the only hideout left in Pakistan for TTP chief Mullah Fazlullah.

Fazlullah, believed to have ordered the 2012 murder attempt on schoolgirl campaigner Malala Yousafzai, became public enemy number one for many in Pakistan after the Peshawar massacre.

"Fazlullah either remains in Afghanistan or in Tirah. We started this operation based on reports that he has arrived in Tirah. If we clear this area from the militants, he won't have any place to hide," a security official said.
We need this valley to stop TTP movement across the border lets use Burraq
 
.
To take out the Talibans from the forest, how about the army surrounds the forest and chucks in a lot of smoke grenades or tear gas, the militants would come out and then we go :sniper:???

This would never work locals like me would never approve of it. As much as we are sick of these Talibs we would never want our beautiful land to be burnt. Khair i am relaxed but amazed that someone could come up with something like this.
 
.
according to wajahat s khan the pak army lost more men at tirah valley then the whole of zarb-e-azab operation, so this means 200+ soliders were kia in a single night?
 
.
To take out the Talibans from the forest, how about the army surrounds the forest and chucks in a lot of smoke grenades or tear gas, the militants would come out and then we go :sniper:???
sure army knows how to deal with them without burning down the whole valley ;)
 
.
These rented terrorists are well equipped by foreign powers. PD should crush them once & for all.
 
.
according to wajahat s khan the pak army lost more men at tirah valley then the whole of zarb-e-azab operation, so this means 200+ soliders were kia in a single night?
The Army has lost men but not that many. Our drones are changing the tide in this fight.

I have been saying for months that Tirah is the key to our success and here we are yet again. Let's see if PA can finish the fight.
 
.
according to wajahat s khan the pak army lost more men at tirah valley then the whole of zarb-e-azab operation, so this means 200+ soliders were kia in a single night?

that is just propaganda , 200+ men are not deployed in close proximity at the same place , 9 or 10 casualties in an ambush can happen, 200+ is just not possible and that too in the same night , Wajahat Khan must be high and talking out of his back hole when he said this
 
Last edited:
.
according to wajahat s khan the pak army lost more men at tirah valley then the whole of zarb-e-azab operation, so this means 200+ soliders were kia in a single night?

No army will deploy their troops so poorly that 200+ soldiers will die over night.
That is only possible in a conventional warfare where there is a wide area of ground being fought over.
 
.

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Country Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom