Pakistan and Israel

[Kompromat]

Call me Stupid, that Israelies thinking about Pakistans destruction.

How they can even "DARE" to think about Destroying Pakistan.

They are feeding their proxies In Pakistan Through their Indian "Friends".

Tell them to wait and you have my promise we will triple the amount of BS and send it back.

 

[Kompromat]

I wonder why you chose the name black blood

Personal Attacks are not allowed , if you continued BS'ing me personally then you are on your way to be banned.

you use Nazi way of speaking and drawing

Come on Nazis were not all bad

nothing new poor man

I am poor ??? hahhahahha An Israeli talking about poverty who themselves are 80% owned by David Rockefellers aint you?

blind... one side glasses

"Andhay ko andheray main bohot door ki soojhi

IDF ARMOR

MODS is it allowed to Publicize other forums ???

 

[zraver]

Its not only an arab cause its also a muslim cause because of Masjid-e-alaqsa. That is why so many pakistanis react in such a way. Its a very emotional topic.

If its about Muslims, and the Ummah, why is Pakistan not involved in ending the genocide in the Sudan, why did it defend Assad of Syria and support the Taliban when they ruled Afghanistan? The single biggest killer of Muslims is fellow Muslims.

 

[zraver]

Am not defending the arabs, I am countering your argument that US has stood by us, which it hasn't ever nor it will ever.

The US has given Pakistan billions in civil and military aid, and protected your country on the international stage. Our big mistake was in thinking the end of the Cold War meant peace. Thus we left the region. However Pakistan compounded the problem by pushing ahead with nuke tests despite the Pressler Amendments.

 

[Canaan]

I wonder what would be Pakistan reaction to Rocket attack against its towns
by anyone or any country!!!!





IDF ARMOR

its towns?
you mean Sderot that was built on top of the ethnically cleansed village of Najd, or Ashkelon which lies instead of the ethnically cleansed city of Al Majdal Asqalan, or how about Be'er Sheva which is the ethnically cleansed city of Bi'r as-Sab`or Ashdod which is the ethnically cleansed city of Isdud etc. etc.
These rockets are fired on occupied Palestinian towns and cities. If you don't like it, Kiev, Warsaw, prague and other beautiful cities will accomodate you easily since your origin is there.

 

[totach7]

A very simple example here in a free world : - A Typical Zionist propagandas and mischieves.

so low

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

both countries are too far away from eachother to cause harm

as i said earlier, we should establish some contact with them. Of course, I don't think Pakistan would recognize israel until there is a just solution to the Palestine issue. With hawkish PM Netanyahu in power, i don't see it happening soon.

But in the meantime, we should deal with the israelis in a professional and calculated way. I gotta give it to them -- they work hard, they love their country, they respect eachother, and they are ultra nationalist and very united. This has helped them become technologically advanced --though obviously israel does rely on strong U.S. support. But so do other countries.

we need to get it through our heads --- not all jews are zionists. Same way not all Muslims are sectarian-minded extremist.


question to everyone:

should Jews have a homeland? Are we hypocrites if we deny them this right? It goes without saying that israel has used brutal tactics against people deemed threat to their 'existence.' In many case, they killed many civilians --such as what happened in Gaza and in much of Lebanon in 2006. But lets think right now, what are our interests? How do we balance our position on Falasteen with that of perhaps opening dialogue and some cooperation with people we have no personal beef with?

let's be rational....not emotional.

 

[totach7]

its towns?
you mean Sderot that was built on top of the ethnically cleansed village of Najd, or Ashkelon which lies instead of the ethnically cleansed city of Al Majdal Asqalan, or how about Be'er Sheva which is the ethnically cleansed city of Bi'r as-Sab`or Ashdod which is the ethnically cleansed city of Isdud etc. etc.
These rockets are fired on occupied Palestinian towns and cities. If you don't like it, Kiev, Warsaw, prague and other beautiful cities will accomodate you easily since your origin is there.

same old propaganda ....... bla bla bla

the Palestinans rejected 1947 U.N offer for 2 states
they are cowards terorists using only force even between
their own people
ask any Israeli arab citizen if he want to live in the palestinian state
there not even one why????????

I live in Haifa which is mixed town some of my best friends are arab
Muslims and Christians all of them want to stay Israeli citizen
all of them think that Yassser Araffat was a gay... stole
billion of dollars from his people and never wanted peace with Israel
He was dreaming like most members here to be on the road to Jerusalem with force and push all the Jews to the sea

but again as I said here before Israel is the homeland for all Jews
it will always be and is here forever
got that?

We want peace and respect
Inshalla it will come



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[Abu Zolfiqar]

totach, i agree....the problem is the settlements building. They are stirring up more resentment.

What steps do you think will/can be taken to ensure peace? Let's resist the temptation --- leave Jerusalem out of this discussion.

What steps should be taken for 2-state solution.....Camp David was a good deal in my opinion, but let bygons be bygons

 

[TaimiKhan]

The US has given Pakistan billions in civil and military aid, and protected your country on the international stage. Our big mistake was in thinking the end of the Cold War meant peace. Thus we left the region. However Pakistan compounded the problem by pushing ahead with nuke tests despite the Pressler Amendments.

So why did we got sanctioned after 65 war and continued for many years, where was US in 71. Why did they leave Afghanistan & Pakistan alone after Soviets left and slapped us with sanctions right within a year of defeating the soviets, that is how you repay us ??

Decade plus sanctions and it gets lifted only, when US again needs us in Afghanistan.

Strange thing is you guys used the atomic bomb on Japan, defending it by saying to reduce further US casualties, it was done, and when our arch enemy detonated atomic bombs in 74 and yet again in 98 and dismembered us in 71, it becomes a problem after we detonate an atomic bomb to defend our sovereignty. That's pathetic.

Mistake is done once, not multiple times. In 65 it was done, in 71 it was done, in 88-89 it was done and i assure you and bet, it will be done again the moment IF US forces leave this region, mark my words, we will get slapped with yet another round of sanctions.

Nuke tests & program is & was our right, especially with a neighbor like India on our side, waiting to destroy us. If you guys can keep it and expand it with the pretext of a threat from Soviets, so could and can we, with such an arch enemy in sights.

History is very clear, US was never our friend, is not our friend and will never be.

And as for Billions spent, much more then those Billions has been lost by us due to this War of Terror alone. The 71 saga separate to that, and the multiple time sanctions beside.

 

[totach7]

totach, i agree....the problem is the settlements building. They are stirring up more resentment.

What steps do you think will/can be taken to ensure peace? Let's resist the temptation --- leave Jerusalem out of this discussion.

What steps should be taken for 2-state solution.....Camp David was a good deal in my opinion, but let bygons be bygons

Israel must give enough land to the Palestinians take apart
some settelments . ensure strong economy to the newly born Palestine
Palestine must accept Israel as a the Jewish state stop teror!!!

We hope there will not be a civil war between the Hammas and the Fattach
When hate will replaced by peace we can make good team with
the Palestinans

(ever asked yourself why most Arab nations don't lie Palestinans? because they are clever!!!!)

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

no, the Arabs are just dis-united and lack leaders with any vision.

Nothing new with that.

I think israel needs to accept HAMAS as the elected leaders of Gaza Strip. It was, after all, israeli which helped foster creation of HAMAS to counter the PLO.

both sides must stop attacks....Rocket attacks to israel should end, so should the israeli attacks and air-space violations on Palestine end as well.


of course, what i say has little meaning or bearing.....alas.

 

[totach7]

no, the Arabs are just dis-united and lack leaders with any vision.

Nothing new with that.

I think israel needs to accept HAMAS as the elected leaders of Gaza Strip. It was, after all, israeli which helped foster creation of HAMAS to counter the PLO.

both sides must stop attacks....Rocket attacks to israel should end, so should the israeli attacks and air-space violations on Palestine end as well.



More than one million Jewish refugees were forced to flee Arab countries

Israel expected to raise compensation issue for Jewish refugees in upcoming negotiations with Palestinians

One of the thorniest issues in the upcoming Israeli-Palestinian negotiations will be the refugee question, on both sides. Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas and other Palestinian officials claim the 'right of return' for the Palestinian refugees and their descendants who fled Palestine after the neighboring Arab states declared war on Israel in 1948. However, it appears that a similar number of Jewish refugees also fled from Arab countries, this after the Arab-League drafted a law that in effect confiscated their property and considered them to be 'members of the Jewish minority state of Palestine'.

 

[pak-yes]

Well Well Well what do we have here.Peace.

Well there will be Peace when Palestinians are only to be found in Museums or History Books.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

not sure bout Arabs, but I heard Iranian were taking in a lot of Jews who were facing persecution

(during and post holocaust)