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[StormBreaker]

JF17 is the seed, granddaddy of Aviation Industry and all future PakFighters...

This little IronFalcon is evolving year by year... surprise after surprise...

Have no idea about PakFlag not being on F sola!

Ohh man !!! The sudden spirit boost, after watching this video, load ‘em up with PL-15 and AESA, CHECKMATE MKI !!!

Bring in your Rafales, make sure your pilots don’t piss unnecessarily !!!!

The beauty Of PAF is not in numbers but in complex planning, with more focus on situational awareness and EW/Jamming. Our fleet of AWACS planes is our pride and that is what ultimately downplays the IAF. Link 16, 17 are the pride of our Software engineers, one of the best skills of Pakistanis (soft dev) and they used it wisely.

 

[aliyusuf]

@Mangus Ortus Novem
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Also, please add to above mix ... the L.O.A.L. capabilities of the PAF's AEW&C platforms utilizing the Link-17 TDL.

 

[StormBreaker]

@Mangus Ortus Novem
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Also, please add to above mix ... the L.O.A.L. capabilities of the PAF's AEW&C platforms utilizing the Link-17 TDL.

Isn’t L.O.A.L like 60+% more of a hardware thingy rather Link 17 ?

We do need a HMS to utilize LOAL at it’s best. Probability of CAW between IAF and PAF are very high due to being next to each other. Not taking into account, extreme BVR environment, HMS really needs to materialize soon. Good for marketing as well. Don’t know where PAF is heading for that tech since Chinese J-20 HMS is not quite upto JHCMS standards as per various reviews.

 

[nomi007]

The IAF Tetris Challenge

Hope PAF will also test their skill like this

 

[StormBreaker]

The IAF Tetris Challenge

Hope PAF will also test their skill like this

*coughs* WTF is this

 

[aliyusuf]

Isn’t L.O.A.L like 60+% more of a hardware thingy rather Link 17 ?

We do need a HMS to utilize LOAL at it’s best. Probability of CAW between IAF and PAF are very high due to being next to each other. Not taking into account, extreme BVR environment, HMS really needs to materialize soon. Good for marketing as well. Don’t know where PAF is heading for that tech since Chinese J-20 HMS is not quite upto JHCMS standards as per various reviews.

L.O.A.L. is primarily based on TDL. Since we use our own TDL i.e. why it is based on Link-17.
The Lock-On-After-Launch capability is the AWACS or any other fighter in TDL network taking control of the launched BVRAAM missile from the original launch fighter and provide it the necessary mid-flight update till the on board active seeker of the missile kicks-in.

This allows for ...

1) A fighter, with it's radar switched off, to launch a missile with the help of a buddy fighter or a AWACS in the network.
2) A fighter launch a long range missile from a range longer than the fighter's radar can see.
3) Guiding long range air-to-ground or air-to-sea munitions.

A nice article from QUWA on the subject.

 

[StormBreaker]

L.O.A.L. is primarily based on TDL. Since we use our own TDL i.e. why it is based on Link-17.
The Lock-On-After-Launch capability is the AWACS or any other fighter in TDL network taking control of the launched BVRAAM missile from the original launch fighter and provide it the necessary mid-flight update till the on board active seeker of the missile kicks-in.

This allows for ...

1) A fighter, with it's radar switched off, to launch a missile with the help of a buddy fighter or a AWACS in the network.
2) A fighter launch a long range missile from a range longer than the fighter's radar can see.
3) Guiding long range air-to-ground or air-to-sea munitions.

A nice article from QUWA on the subject.

But that requires a homing and active seeker AAM right?

 

[aliyusuf]

But that requires a homing and active seeker AAM right?

I only used that example. It can work with SARH BVRAAM as well.

But it yields best jamming resistant results with munitions having data link feature as well ... like SD-10 and PL-15 etc.

 

[PakFactor]

JF17 is the seed, granddaddy of Aviation Industry and all future PakFighters...

This little IronFalcon is evolving year by year... surprise after surprise...

Have no idea about PakFlag not being on F sola!

Yeah baby love the name Iron Falcon.

 

[StormBreaker]

Yeah baby love the name Iron Falcon.

Hamare Mangus bhai koi shayar se kam nai hain bhai.

 

[MastanKhan]

JF17 is the seed, granddaddy of Aviation Industry and all future PakFighters...

This little IronFalcon is evolving year by year... surprise after surprise...

Have no idea about PakFlag not being on F sola!

Hi,

Thank you---. An excellent name---.

The BLK 3 should be named IRON FALCON---.

 

[StormBreaker]

Hi,

Thank you---. An excellent name---.

The BLK 3 should be named IRON FALCON---.

@The Eagle , if it’s possible for you, we would love you to suggest ‘Iron Falcon’ name to PAF and PAC specifically for Block 3. Just like Hornet and Super Hornet

 

[MastanKhan]

@The Eagle , if it’s possible for you, we would love you to suggest ‘Iron Falcon’ name to PAF and PAC specifically for Block 3. Just like Hornet and Super Hornet

And acknowledge our dear colleague @Mangus Ortus Novem for that name---.

Thank you.

 

[StormBreaker]

And acknowledge our dear colleague @Mangus Ortus Novem for that name---.

Thank you.

Dear is a small word for him, creative, beauty he is.

 

[MastanKhan]

Dear is a small word for him, creative, beauty he is.

@MastanKhan @StormBreaker

My very dear Paks,


We need to position our products with global benchmarks... an aspect we have been lacking due varrying reasons...

BlockIII is becoming quite a bird... and deserves rightful recognition... by merely calling it Thunder B3 doesn't do justice...

I do strongly believe that subliminally products sell not only because of quality... Anyhow, even if no one calls B3 IronFalcon ... we shall...

And when B4 pops up... we shall allot it proper title.

Imagine calling dual seater JF17B or Calling it JF17 SnowLeopard or something more inducing...

Regardless, you both are trying to humble this nobody... duely noted. Allow me to thankyou!

Mangus

Hi,

Thank you----. Basic of sales pitch is---to give a product an individual identity---a similar but a different product has to have a different name to separate it from the HERD and position it by itself on its own merits capabilities and capabilities---.

It must be known targeted and appreciated by its own name---.