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i dont think IAF has 1000+ fighter jets
Not possible
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750-800 fighter jets excluding support aircraft @Code_Geassi dont think IAF has 1000+ fighter jets
no worries. not that critical.
According to the South China Morning Post, China has decided that the the Chengdu J-20 fighter will be developed further to operate from the country’s aircraft carriers. An anonymous military source says the Central Military Commission is favoring the J-20 over Shenyang FC-31. The J-20 was announced combat ready in July. It is listed in China’s latest national defense white paper as one of the new, high-tech weapons the Chinese military has commissioned.
Pakistan should take over the F31 program from china
Its first foreign customer is likely to be Pakistani AF, which has been planning its own 4th generation stealth fighter based on FC-31 since late 2017.
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yes and so are the F-16 not to mention EFT is also sanction prone.FA50 is US sanctions prone unfortunately
This price would be aprox 37.5 million euro per pop. The issue is would these upgrades bring the EFT equal to F-16 block 15 in regards to ground attack roles?The Italian offer is ~€600m for 1squadron plus the upgrade and infrastructure etc.
Hi,
If the right engine was available
The Typhoon T1 is a glorified F-16 Block-52+. The most feasible way to approach those is to work out a leasing agreement with Leonardo where the PAF pays $100 m a year flat for everything -- i.e., every plane, maintenance issue, weapon, sortie, fuel, etc -- right until we don't need the T1s anymore. By the end of the leasing deal, those T1s will be so worn out, Leonardo might just leave them with Pakistan.
If spread over 10 years, I'd...Here are some alternative things we could do with 100 million.
1. Build a local bare basic LRSAM that will add an additional dimension for enemy fighters to deal with, while simultaneously taking on our fighter pilots and EW. This can be done using the basic technology of Nasr and mating it with an active seeker.
With 100 million a year, you cold have a gigantic number of LRSAMs.
2. Build UCAVs for strike and as BVR carrying companions for JFTs
3. Double the production rate of JFT
4. Decrease the time for Project Azm by half
5. Raise 20 new conscript divisions to completely neutralize India's numbers advantage.
6. Lease J-10 Cs instead.
Actually, at 100 million a year, you could attempt to do a reasonable job in 4 of the above 6 points.
its nothing but wishful thinking. time to take rest my friend.someday
If spread over 10 years, I'd...
1. Buy the Denel Dynamics Marlin BVRAAM / MR-SAM Project
2. Develop an AUAV (for deep-strike and buddying Project Azm & JF-17)
3. Develop an Iskander-like SRBM (maybe use Ukraine's Hrim-2 project as a starting point)
4. Develop a lightweight supersonic AShM for use from aircraft, land, ships & submarines
5. Develop lighter, longer-range variants of the Ra'ad ALCM
6. Get Denel Dynamics to give us an equivalent to Umbani and Sajeel PGB/LGBs
7. Buy-off Denel's Raptor 3 for an H-6.
8. Buy-off the A-Darter
9. Get Hensoldt to develop a custom HMD/S
Though off-the-shelf project buys are a start, the ideal is collaboration, right down to core inputs such as miniature air-breathing engines (esp. ramjet, scramjet, etc with CSIR, SomChem), satellite tech, IFVs, LAVs, etc. If the geo-strategic stance is a sign, there's a lull across our entire leadership towards taking sharp step forwards. Be it with South Africa or Ukraine for that matter, lots of missed opportunities. The lack of money is a constraint, but then again, we're not talking about EU/USA here, much closer currency parity and comparable economic realities.I am telling you; South Africa is the premium destination for every bit of hardware that Pak needs; even additional specs will be accommodated. We need Pak to join in joint ventures and a lot of syngeries will come through. Even though RSA4 SLV is off shelf; it can be resurrected for LEOs launches. This is just on the air front. On land, IFV/mine proof vehicles remains our core strengths that is copied/transformed right across the globe under various brands, artillery etc.
@denel a question was you, Pakistan and South African military chiefs have visited the countries and defense delegations have held several meeting. What is the stumbling block that is stopping both countries from joint ventures?I am telling you; South Africa is the premium destination for every bit of hardware that Pak needs; even additional specs will be accommodated. We need Pak to join in joint ventures and a lot of syngeries will come through. Even though RSA4 SLV is off shelf; it can be resurrected for LEOs launches. This is just on the air front. On land, IFV/mine proof vehicles remains our core strengths that is copied/transformed right across the globe under various brands, artillery etc.
Absolutely, we are desperately looking for markets right now as long as there is money, it can be done. With the exception of land weapons where we have a good market share, there is already breakthru on AAMs front; things had slowed under prior Brazilian govt; with the president things are beginning to move to get AAMs jvs to final stages.Though off-the-shelf project buys are a start, the ideal is collaboration, right down to core inputs such as miniature air-breathing engines (esp. ramjet, scramjet, etc with CSIR, SomChem), satellite tech, IFVs, LAVs, etc. If the geo-strategic stance is a sign, there's a lull across our entire leadership towards taking sharp step forwards. Be it with South Africa or Ukraine for that matter, lots of missed opportunities. The lack of money is a constraint, but then again, we're not talking about EU/USA here, much closer currency parity and comparable economic realities.
There was no stumbling block on our side; the issue was on Pak side. Remember - we have a difference - our military chiefs have ZERO power on deals. Pak team signs documents and promises but never shows up; then what has been passed along is they have vested interests with Chinese/US/European sellers who give massive kickbacks and hence nothing transpires. Regretfully until that mentality changes, there will be nothing of major significant going over to Pak @MastanKhan@denel a question was you, Pakistan and South African military chiefs have visited the countries and defense delegations have held several meeting. What is the stumbling block that is stopping both countries from joint ventures?
Absolutely, we are desperately looking for markets right now as long as there is money, it can be done. With the exception of land weapons where we have a good market share, there is already breakthru on AAMs front; things had slowed under prior Brazilian govt; with the president things are beginning to move to get AAMs jvs to final stages.
There was no stumbling block on our side; the issue was on Pak side. Remember - we have a difference - our military chiefs have ZERO power on deals. Pak team signs documents and promises but never shows up; then what has been passed along is they have vested interests with Chinese/US/European sellers who give massive kickbacks and hence nothing transpires. Regretfully until that mentality changes, there will be nothing of major significant going over to Pak @MastanKhan