PAF revamped Air Defense Alert System

[Cornered Tiger]

Crotale 4000

I Beg to differ,Crotales are here currently operational/standby with 5 squadrons.
Talks/work being done to upgrade those crotale batteries by Thales.
Question Might arise why Crotales are still operational? Because they are filling gaps which Spada Cant fullfill,I wont go into further Details.

some units upgraded to Cortale 5000 standards

 

[Tps43]

SIEMENS is also a corrupt company. They have history of bribing in civil tenders.

They can be but paf has got good experience while working on there's system.
Thats why Paf is seriously considering them.

paf ordered Saab vs zdk it tells you something Saab is far better not to say zdk has issues but may be Saab brings capability that out shines zdk or paf has more money to spend and who knows ... just guessing here

keep guessing

 

[Gryphon]

We gave it a break because our Spada weren't getting A cat operational. Till 2016 case was being reconsidered again and was set as 2nd priority ,1st one is to replace those MPDR's after them comes Crotales.

Folks at PAF can't arrange money for upgrading the Crotale's and here we believe they are going to invest in 5th gen fighter aircraft research.

CAS announced to replace MPDR's during his tenure lets see what happens in the end.

Sounds good. When was the announcement made ?

 

[Tps43]

Folks at PAF can't arrange money for upgrading the Crotale's and here we believe they are going to invest in 5th gen fighter aircraft research.

Money may be the problem but Regarding crotales AD priorities were set so that's why crotales are being neglected for time being , Paf AD is always low on budget as compared to Flying branch so the whole branches of Paf are just surviving for time being steps had been taken to improve these conditions esp during current cas tenure so let's we what comes up .

Folks at PAF can't arrange money for upgrading the Crotale's and here we believe they are going to invest in 5th gen fighter aircraft research.



Sounds good. When was the announcement made ?

In 2015 on becoming CAS because we was dcas ops so he knew current condition of operations btw he picked up operations game from 6 o clock to 12 o clock
Edit = he was

 

[Gryphon]

Money may be the problem but Regarding crotales AD priorities were set so that's why crotales are being neglected for time being , Paf AD is always low on budget as compared to Flying branch so the whole branches of Paf are just surviving for time being steps had been taken to improve these conditions esp during current cas tenure so let's we what comes up .


In 2015 on becoming CAS because we was dcas ops so he knew current condition of operations btw he picked up operations game from 6 o clock to 12 o clock

Money is old excuse of PAF. It is an incompetent organisation.

The seniors have nothing to offer, except media assurances.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

We gave it a break because our Spada weren't getting A cat operational. Till 2016 case was being reconsidered again and was set as 2nd priority ,1st one is to replace those MPDR's after them comes Crotales.

maybe who knows but Siemens have got more chances.

They can be but paf has got good experience while working on there's system.
Thats why Paf is seriously considering them.


keep guessing

IIRC Siemens was absorbed into Airbus DS's radar division, which was then spun-off into Hensoldt, which inherited most if not all of Airbus DS' radar, avionics, EW/ECM and optronics work. Hensoldt is based out of Germany and I can confirm that the Siemens support team dealing with Pakistan is in Hensoldt and that the company has another team assigned for managing sales to Turkey and Pakistan. Hensoldt also held some kind of marketing thing in Pakistan in May and then something was brought to Pakistan in August.

The shots are from public EXIM logs.

 

[Tps43]

Money is old excuse of PAF. It is an incompetent organisation.

The seniors have nothing to offer, except media assurances.

Just double its budget , we will see drastic changes I assure you
From 1bn$ to 2bn$
Who knows maybe then we get eurofighters then

 

[Gryphon]

IIRC Siemens was absorbed into Airbus DS's radar division, which was then spun-off into Hensoldt, which inherited most if not all of Airbus DS' radar, avionics, EW/ECM and optronics work. Hensoldt is based out of Germany and I can confirm that the Siemens support team dealing with Pakistan is in Hensoldt and that the company has another team assigned for managing sales to Turkey and Pakistan. Hensoldt also held some kind of marketing thing in Pakistan in May and then something was brought to Pakistan in August.

The shots are from public EXIM logs.

The weight of the shipment was 11.2 kg. IMO, not something to debate.

 

[Mentee]

paf ordered Saab vs zdk it tells you something Saab is far better not to say zdk has issues but may be Saab brings capability that out shines zdk or paf has more money to spend and who knows ... just guessing here

in simple words, zdk couldn't be paired with the paf f-16 fleet without u.s consent hence we see saab standing in the paf's hangers.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

The weight of the shipment was 11.2 kg. IMO, not something to debate.

How did you conclude that was weight in kg?

 

[Tps43]

The weight of the shipment was 11.2 kg. IMO, not something to debate.

Maybe some electronics equipment of sensor. Both the packages were delivered to alc's who are near to major AD engg depots.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Just double its budget , we will see drastic changes I assure you
From 1bn$ to 2bn$
Who knows maybe then we get eurofighters then

This is nearly $7 billion U.S. right here:

Another 78 cases worth Rs1.53tr were pointed out as having ‘weak internal financial controls’, while Rs730bn in ‘overpayments’ and ‘misappropriation of public funds’ were placed on the record.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1354438​

 

[hassan1]

what about these?
FPS-89/100
Type 514
Thomson-CSF ATC
Condor
AR-1/6 Radar
AR-15
FPS-6
FPS-20
Plessey HF-200

 

[Tps43]

in simple words, zdk couldn't be with the paf f-16 fleet without u.s consent hence we see saab standing in the paf's hangers.

Americans have no leverage on our old f 16's only on block52 that too for just another 2 years as that condition is also going to end .And our f 16's can be linked with zdk . Zdk's sensor was a lil bit of issue thats why saab was preferred but we cannot underestimate zdk at all

 

[Gryphon]

It's a package. All those weights are in kgs (unless mentioned as a shipping container).