PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[araz]

I know you told me their are 11 hard points but I need 14 politicians hung with the hard points, not even one less.

2 trips and you can have 22.
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Can somebody please clarify me that Pakistani J-10CE have fixed refueling probe just like jf-17 or it has retractable air refueling probe just like J-20?

Look at the pictures. If this was a retractable fueling probe would you have seen it sticking out like it does?
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[Deino]

J10C unit price 42 million

Based on an obscure YT-channel?!!

 

[Development C&P]

Why Pakistan’s New J-10C Fighters Have F-22-Style ‘Golden’ Stealth Canopies​

Military Watch Magazine
March-14th-2022

Military Watch Magazine

militarywatchmagazine.com

In the 13 years between the entry into service of the first J-10A fighters in 2005, and the latest most advanced variant the J-10C in the spring of 2018, the design has seen radical improvements going from a relatively basic fourth-generation jet into an aircraft with fifth generation capabilities in all aspects of performance other than its lack of stealth. Most notable improvements have included entirely new avionics, with new network centric warfare capabilities, helmet mounted sights and electronic warfare countermeasures making a very significant difference to combat potential, as well as integration of an AESA radar paired with PL-15 and PL-10 air to air missiles that are overwhelmingly more capable than the missiles of the original J-10, and the use of thrust vectoring engines. While not built around a stealth airframe like the fifth generation J-20, the ‘4++ generation’ J-10C has nevertheless seen its radar cross section reduced drastically complementing reductions to its radar section from its new sensor suite to make it more difficult to target at long ranges.

J-10C with PL-15 and PL-10 Missiles



With an estimated 200 J-10C fighters entering service in the Chinese People’s Liberation Army over four years from March 2018, the aircraft saw its first exports confirmed in December 2021 with Pakistan expected to by several dozen and possibly over 100 fighters. The first of these landed in the country on March 4, and were formally inducted into service on March 11. Pakistan’s J-10Cs are considered far more likely to see combat than those in China itself, with the Pakistani Air Force engaging in combat far more frequently whether in skirmishes with neighbouring India or conducting airstrikes against various insurgent groups domestically. The Pakistani purchase has thus drawn new attention to the fighter’s features, as has the possible sale of the J-10C to Iran which has been widely speculated, with the fighters considered the most likely to equip the Iranian Air Force should it seek to modernise its fleet with imported jets.

Pakistani Air Force J-10C with PL-15 and PL-10 Missiles



One feature of the J-10C which has gained considerable attention in Iran is the fighter’s ‘golden canopy,’ which is highly unusual for fourth generation aircraft but was previously seen on the J-20 and its American competitor the F-22 Raptor. Under some light conditions J-10C canopies appear golden due to an Indium Tin Oxide electroconductive film coating between the layers of optical glass, which provide this colouring and serve to scatter radio waves from the canopy to reduce the fighter’s radar cross section. It does so while maintaining transparency to visible radiation. The feature represents one of several next generation technologies being newly introduced into Pakistani service, and which it is the first in the region to benefit from. With the J-10C expected to form the elite of the Pakistani fleet for years to come, its ‘golden’ canopy serves to symbolise the aircraft’s status much as it does for the F-22 and J-20 in U.S. and Chinese service.

 

[Chak Bamu]

ha ha ha
i can commit 13 using dual racks and that's it.

by the way which 14 you have list down?

Do not extent OT. What does this have to do with J-10 thread?

There should be a clamp down on political posts in Pakistan Defense & Military Section of the forum.

If this OT extends to naming politicians to hang, someone will put this onto Twitter & that will harden the negative perception about PDF further. Mods & Forum admins should think if such is a desirable outcome

 

[Ghessan]

Do not extent OT. What does this have to do with J-10 thread?

There should be a clamp down on political posts in Pakistan Defense & Military Section of the forum.

If this OT extends to naming politicians to hang, someone will put this onto Twitter & that will harden the negative perception about PDF further. Mods & Forum admins should think if such is a desirable outcome

i delete my post

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

@Raider 21 and other people, just out of interest, would you know which aircraft WC Imtiaz and his entourage (picutred above) are coming from?

Why is the water being showered on the aircraft? Is it a normal thing to do after a flight?

 

[Ali_Baba]

Pakistan Has Taken Delivery Of Its First Chinese-Made J-10 Fighters

The multi-role fighters may well be joined by as many as three different armed drones as Pakistan seeks to gain an advantage over India’s military.

www.thedrive.com

Why is the water being showered on the aircraft? Is it a normal thing to do after a flight?

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Tradition - for a new type of aircraft being inducted etc..

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In order to celebrate the J10C of Pakistan finally served,
Special disclosure of this original size version of this painting~


Uncompressed original picture：（Size：7680x4320,10MB）

https://wx4.sinaimg.cn/large/007Kimevgy1h060axhnd6j35xc3c01l5.jpg

Art by. 奇圆JeffHoly

https://weibo.com/7097016651/Ljfbhw0RM?refer_flag=1001030103_

https://weibo.com/2149981442?refer_flag=1001030103_

I am at a place where i cannot access download links from China - did anyone manage to download and upload to a western site ?

 

[The Terminator]

PAF fighter jets including J-10C flying in Islamabad. For those who were saying that we would have to maintain social distance between Lockheed Martin F-16s and CAC J-10Cs just watch this video. They are blowing air and exhaust fumes on each other

 

[siegecrossbow]

Why is the water being showered on the aircraft? Is it a normal thing to do after a flight?

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Water arches are used in induction ceremonies around the world. F-35 received it as well.

 

[Development C&P]

Pakistan Has Taken Delivery Of Its First Chinese-Made J-10 Fighters

The multi-role fighters may well be joined by as many as three different armed drones as Pakistan seeks to gain an advantage over India’s military.

www.thedrive.com

Tradition - for a new type of aircraft being inducted etc..



I am at a place where i cannot access download links from China - did anyone manage to download and upload to a western site ?

Updated uploaded, 2 RAR compressed package files containing the original size picture.

On page 400 # 5,997

 

[Windjammer]

 

[dranger22]

Why is the water being showered on the aircraft? Is it a normal thing to do after a flight?

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Every Airforce in the world does it

 

[Windjammer]

Into the loop.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Water arches are used in induction ceremonies around the world. F-35 received it as well.

Every Airforce in the world does it

Thanks. I was just curious whether it was for ceremonial purposes or something else.

 

[LeGenD]

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Why Pakistan’s New J-10C Fighters Have F-22-Style ‘Golden’ Stealth Canopies​

Military Watch Magazine
March-14th-2022

Military Watch Magazine

militarywatchmagazine.com

In the 13 years between the entry into service of the first J-10A fighters in 2005, and the latest most advanced variant the J-10C in the spring of 2018, the design has seen radical improvements going from a relatively basic fourth-generation jet into an aircraft with fifth generation capabilities in all aspects of performance other than its lack of stealth. Most notable improvements have included entirely new avionics, with new network centric warfare capabilities, helmet mounted sights and electronic warfare countermeasures making a very significant difference to combat potential, as well as integration of an AESA radar paired with PL-15 and PL-10 air to air missiles that are overwhelmingly more capable than the missiles of the original J-10, and the use of thrust vectoring engines. While not built around a stealth airframe like the fifth generation J-20, the ‘4++ generation’ J-10C has nevertheless seen its radar cross section reduced drastically complementing reductions to its radar section from its new sensor suite to make it more difficult to target at long ranges.

J-10C with PL-15 and PL-10 Missiles



With an estimated 200 J-10C fighters entering service in the Chinese People’s Liberation Army over four years from March 2018, the aircraft saw its first exports confirmed in December 2021 with Pakistan expected to by several dozen and possibly over 100 fighters. The first of these landed in the country on March 4, and were formally inducted into service on March 11. Pakistan’s J-10Cs are considered far more likely to see combat than those in China itself, with the Pakistani Air Force engaging in combat far more frequently whether in skirmishes with neighbouring India or conducting airstrikes against various insurgent groups domestically. The Pakistani purchase has thus drawn new attention to the fighter’s features, as has the possible sale of the J-10C to Iran which has been widely speculated, with the fighters considered the most likely to equip the Iranian Air Force should it seek to modernise its fleet with imported jets.

Pakistani Air Force J-10C with PL-15 and PL-10 Missiles



One feature of the J-10C which has gained considerable attention in Iran is the fighter’s ‘golden canopy,’ which is highly unusual for fourth generation aircraft but was previously seen on the J-20 and its American competitor the F-22 Raptor. Under some light conditions J-10C canopies appear golden due to an Indium Tin Oxide electroconductive film coating between the layers of optical glass, which provide this colouring and serve to scatter radio waves from the canopy to reduce the fighter’s radar cross section. It does so while maintaining transparency to visible radiation. The feature represents one of several next generation technologies being newly introduced into Pakistani service, and which it is the first in the region to benefit from. With the J-10C expected to form the elite of the Pakistani fleet for years to come, its ‘golden’ canopy serves to symbolise the aircraft’s status much as it does for the F-22 and J-20 in U.S. and Chinese service.

1. Golden Canopy was introduced in EA-6B Prowler.

2. J-10C is 4+ generation.

J-20 is equipped with different (more capable) sensor systems and higher level of sensor fusion.