PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[Deino]

Hi Deino so PAF getting any HMDS if yes which will be those and just a offtopic PLAAF using HMDS with J10c
Thank you

Hi any one can confirm what missiles been displayed with J10c at the induction ceremony I believe SD10 and PL8
may be
thank you

Concerning a HMDS or even HMCS it is known since long that PLAAF pilots have such a system and I don't think why Paksitan should not get this system too.

Concerning the AAMs, these are clearly PL-15E and PL-10E.

 

[sparten]

So, anyone who was following PAF... in the 90s.. can you believe your eyes today? =)

Yes. I had sevreal dreams like this and I fully expect to wake up soon.

 

[newb3e]

good detailed analysis of j10c

 

[Scorpiooo]

Concerning a HMDS or even HMCS it is known since long that PLAAF pilots have such a system and I don't think why Paksitan should not get this system too.

Concerning the AAMs, these are clearly PL-15E and PL-10E.

Question is why PAF go for PL15E and PL10E ?
1)Any budget problem, possiblelity very less as they getting expensive jets.
2)Chinese restrictions, possible but why with Pakistan.
3)Just free ammo with jets and actuall will be PL15 and PL10 supplied separately, possible as Chinese will charge high for them

 

[Raja Porus]

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[Deino]

Finally confirmed, they are officially - at least as per CAC - called J-10CE!

 

[araz]

Finally confirmed, they are officially - at least as per CAC - called J-10CE!

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How will this plane fly and run when the tyres are not the same size. Latest international conspiracy from Bharat ratshit forum" China delivers planes to PAF with unequal tyres. They cannot run on the tarmac"

 

[iLION12345_1]

Question is why PAF go for PL15E and PL10E ?
1)Any budget problem, possiblelity very less as they getting expensive jets.
2)Chinese restrictions, possible but why with Pakistan.
3)Just free ammo with jets and actuall will be PL15 and PL10 supplied separately, possible as Chinese will charge high for them

Have we considered the possibility that Pakistan just isnt as special as some Pakistanis consider it to be and that’s while China does allow Pakistan some tech that it doesn’t allow others, it doesn’t allow everything to be bought by Pakistan? Why do you think China made an export version of the PL-15 and PL-10? To export it obviously. It’s not like they’ll allow everyone to buy the export version either, it’s sensitive enough as is. Pakistan got the export version, why? Because it’s a foreign country. I don’t see why Pakistanis have a hard time believing that.
Another thing I don’t understand is why Pakistanis think the export versions are so bad, they’re clearly still some of the best in their class. Just putting an E next to the name doesn’t make the missile worst. By that metric Why did Pakistan get J-10CE and not J-10C. Clearly the E next to the name means it’s a downgraded jet.

TLDR: Pakistan got PL-15E and PL-10E because the PLAAF versions aren’t meant for export, and Pakistan isn’t special enough to get access to them (no one is, they’re made for Chinese forces only). The fact that Pakistan is being sold J-10Cs with PL-15E and PL-10E should itself be enough to show how much China is willing to give Pakistan. It’s not that hard to grasp.

This is the most logical and likely scenario, especially considering people that deny this have no proof and are often proven to be wrong.

 

[TheSolution]

Have we considered the possibility that Pakistan just isnt as special as some Pakistanis consider it to be and that’s while China does allow Pakistan some tech that it doesn’t allow others, it doesn’t allow everything to be bought by Pakistan? Because that’s the most logical and likely scenario, especially considering people that deny this have no proof and are often proven to be wrong.

Exactly

Some people tend to write out fantasy on what they wish to be the case while passing it off as facts, but have no actual proof and it seems incredibly far-fetched

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

Have we considered the possibility that Pakistan just isnt as special as some Pakistanis consider it to be and that’s while China does allow Pakistan some tech that it doesn’t allow others, it doesn’t allow everything to be bought by Pakistan? Why do you think China made an export version of the PL-15 and PL-10? To export it obviously. It’s not like they’ll allow everyone to buy the export version either, it’s sensitive enough as is. Pakistan got the export version, why? Because it’s a foreign country. I don’t see why Pakistanis have a hard time believing that.
Another thing I don’t understand is why Pakistanis think the export versions are so bad, they’re clearly still some of the best in their class. Just putting an E next to the name doesn’t make the missile worst. By that metric Why did Pakistan get J-10CE and not J-10C. Clearly the E next to the name means it’s a downgraded jet.

TLDR: Pakistan got PL-15E and PL-10E because the PLAAF versions aren’t meant for export, and Pakistan isn’t special enough to get access to them (no one is, they’re made for Chinese forces only). The fact that Pakistan is being sold J-10Cs with PL-15E and PL-10E should itself be enough to show how much China is willing to give Pakistan. It’s not that hard to grasp.

This is the most logical and likely scenario, especially considering people that deny this have no proof and are often proven to be wrong.

The focus should be that whether it will deter IAF or not? which it is and that should be the point to discusss i guess

 

[leviathan]

Have we considered the possibility that Pakistan just isnt as special as some Pakistanis consider it to be and that’s while China does allow Pakistan some tech that it doesn’t allow others, it doesn’t allow everything to be bought by Pakistan? Why do you think China made an export version of the PL-15 and PL-10? To export it obviously. It’s not like they’ll allow everyone to buy the export version either, it’s sensitive enough as is. Pakistan got the export version, why? Because it’s a foreign country. I don’t see why Pakistanis have a hard time believing that.
Another thing I don’t understand is why Pakistanis think the export versions are so bad, they’re clearly still some of the best in their class. Just putting an E next to the name doesn’t make the missile worst. By that metric Why did Pakistan get J-10CE and not J-10C. Clearly the E next to the name means it’s a downgraded jet.

TLDR: Pakistan got PL-15E and PL-10E because the PLAAF versions aren’t meant for export, and Pakistan isn’t special enough to get access to them (no one is, they’re made for Chinese forces only). The fact that Pakistan is being sold J-10Cs with PL-15E and PL-10E should itself be enough to show how much China is willing to give Pakistan. It’s not that hard to grasp.

This is the most logical and likely scenario, especially considering people that deny this have no proof and are often proven to be wrong.

Time wise... Since AVIC has never produced J-10CE before... and this batch is produced in little more than half year... I don't think AVIC can make any significant change from the original version in such short time. Also China officially lifted technologies restriction on Arms export a few years ago... Exporter no longer require to downgrade or make difference from Chinese own version... for example, Z-10E have better performance than original PLA use Z-10 with latest technology.

 

[NW-Blue]

Just watched the J10C induction ceremony event recording on YouTube. What a great event. On this historic day, huge congratulations to PAF and all the Pakistani friends here! May peace and prosperity long lasting over your country, and long live the friendship between Pakistan and China!

 

[iLION12345_1]

Time wise... Since AVIC has never produced J-10CE before... and this batch is produced in little more than half year... I don't think AVIC can make any significant change from the original version in such short time. Also China officially lifted technologies restriction on Arms export a few years ago... Exporter no longer require to downgrade or make difference from Chinese own version... for example, Z-10E have better performance than original PLA use Z-10 with latest technology.

I was being sarcastic brother

The focus should be that whether it will deter IAF or not? which it is and that should be the point to discusss i guess

it will do that just fine, and then some.

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

I was being sarcastic brother


it will do that just fine, and then some.

That's it. what else do we need more?

 

[HRK]

these are clearly PL-15E and PL-10E

Can you state the visual differences b/w PL-15E and PL-15, so make it easy for many of us to recognize both

Same for the PL-10E